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Post  lily Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:28 pm

No, Bonny. Not one thing.
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:18 pm

Injustice:


If Paulo Pereira Cristovao had been an Egyptian Pharaoh his face would have been chiselled off every stele and wall painting by now ... I wonder if anyone in Portugal ever knew him and was happy to call him friend?


Yes! Or airbrushed out of all those photos of him with Gonzo a la Stalin.....

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Post  lily Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:05 pm

Isn't it pathetic? rofl rofl rofl rofl
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:15 pm

http://www.sol.pt/noticia/126558

Christopher Pereira joined the Templars and helped homeless


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While the police investigated, Paulo Pereira Cristovao created an association of social solidarity that gave support to the homeless, began a Templar order and tried to launch a commandery in Lisbon to attract influential people.

In October 2014, the former head of Sporting, you know the Sun, started a Templar order, a cavalry organization. But soon came into conflict with officials of the institution and eight weeks after eventually came out. Before that, tried to create and lead a commandery in Lisbon (group of Templars), wanting to add influential people to increase and strengthen your network of contacts.

However, and before the news of his arrest, the leaders of the Knights Templar are examining the case to decide whether the expel of the organization. If this happens, Christopher Pereira will appear in a public list with the names of all the expelled members and the reasons for the decision.

By the middle of his foray into the world of the Templars, Paulo Pereira Cristovao constituted in November, a humanitarian association: it is called A Time For Others (UHPO) and distributes hot meals to the homeless. It also promotes other support (such as medical and health care to needy), sponsored by personalities from the art world and football. The defendant created the organization with a group of friends, including Anabela melon, a businesswoman who went with him to the Templar order.

"It's very nice and composed. Knowing him socially, do not think you can do what the accused, "said a person with whom he deprived lately, recalling that he had a captivating personality and could not resist to show their power and influence," Do not hide that did part of the underworld, which maintains contacts for being the Judicial Police and get the information you want about who you want. "

Acquitted of torture and spy suspect

So far, the only shadow hovering over the life of Christopher Pereira is to have created a spy network to players and referees, when he was vice president of Sporting. He knew everything they did, since the nights financial debt, using companies, one of them headed by a former employee in your Primuslex, company that created when he left the PJ to business intelligence. The espionage suspicions arose during the research that has been accused of forging a bribe to the assistant referee Joseph Cardinal, a case awaiting trial.

Moreover, was acquitted of torture charges against Leonor Cipriano, Joana's mother (a child who disappeared in the Algarve), became media commenting on cases of police on television, created the Portuguese Association of Missing Children with friend and lawyer Pragal Colaco, whom he incompatibilizou, and became, according to his profile on Linkedin network administrator in a company based in Luxembourg that provides consultancy in the area of ​​football. He wrote five books, three of them on missing children: Joanna, Maddie and Rui Pedro (missing in Lousada). In the remaining works, one is on the profile cases of national football and the other a novel about the dark and corrupt side of the PJ.


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He'd certainly be an expert on the dark and corrupt side of the PJ, wouldn't he?

Beyond funny - after all the gibbers the Gonzo Fan Club has come out with about the McCanns and Masons, turns out that yet another of their idols is one of the funny handshake squad.

I suppose they do know that disgraced ex-mayor Moita Flores also likes to boast about being a leading Mason in Portugal?

Oh - I wonder if he was an honorary member of the Knights of St Gonzo?
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:20 pm

BTW, it's very revealing to read elsewhere and see just who has disrupted and completely wrecked, not for the first time, an interesting thread.

Some people seem determined to stop the truth about the Gonzo gang from coming out.
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:22 pm

Forker can't face the truth about one of its idols.


Dee Coy wrote:
I'm getting wary feelings about this. Is this the trumped-up excuse the authorities are looking for?

Probably completely unrelated, but I'm keeping a sharper eye on how things unfold and are portrayed regarding Cristovao.


Portrayed nothing, fool. A mass of information about Thug Cristovao, and others they idolize, has been available for all to read for YEARS. They all chose to ignore it, preferring instead to invent utter sh*t about the McCann family.

What that says about their characters, and judgement, rather speaks for itself.


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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:27 pm

Well spotted by Myths:


Moreover, was acquitted of torture charges against Leonor Cipriano, Joana's mother (a child who disappeared in the Algarve)


Joanna is described by the reporters as missing, not murdered - twice, in fact.

three of them on missing children: Joanna, Maddie and Rui Pedro (missing in Lousada)

Let's hope the Cipriano case is re-investigated, by CLEAN cops, not that dirty cabal. And let's also hope that questions are being asked about just what was the purpose of Cristovao's 'missing children' organisation - was it making sure they stayed missing?

The Portuguese authorities seem determined to clean house and bring these corrupt scumbags to justice, so no doubt they will be asking a lot of questions.......
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:27 pm

A glowing report on the ceremony in which Cristovao was made a Knights Templar:

https://templars.wordpress.com/2014/10/

Month: October 2014
Solemn Dubbing Ceremony took place under the Commandery of Sintra, Portugal


New Knights and Dames were dubbed this past weekend in the Commandery of Sintra of the Priory of Iberia (OSMTHU) in Portugal. We wish to congratulate them all, welcoming them in a brotherhood of service, spirituality and pursuit of knowledge. Let there be known their names: Dame Anabela Melão, DTJ; Dame Ana Tavares de Mello, DTJ; Dame Susana Ferreira, DTJ; Dame Isabel Passos, DTJ; Knight Bruno Judas, KTJ; Knight Michel Rodrigues, KTJ; Knight Paulo Cristóvão, KCTJ; Knight Paulo Valente, KTJ; Knight Rui Herdadinha, Knight Vitor Barata, KTJ and Knight Vitorino Batalim, KTJ.


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As the sun was setting in the distant horizon of the Roca Cape, the westernmost extent of mainland in continental Europe, the very place where land abruptly ends and the vast ocean begins, the Squires contemplated how the light of the world cyclically hides and how fragile the last few rays seem to be, distant from the mighty golden shine of noon. Soon darkness covered the land. It was time to return to the safety of the Commandery.

A light meal followed. Right after that all were called to the Chapter Room for the last instructions and examination before the Vigil. The Prior General read from some of the main traditional text  sources, exploring a few of the most basic and central themes that should be considered before undertaking the Vigil and join the Order. All Squires were examined.


What a load of tosh. rofl rofl

In this joyous occasion three new Commanders were sworn, with three Commanderies created. Knight Olivier de Brito, KCTJ became the Commander of Arrabida; Dame Ana Brum, DCTJ became Commander of Lisbon – Sant’Ana Hill and Knight Paulo Cristóvão, KCTJ became Commander of Lisbon- Sain Vicent Hill.

They all departed after noon, rejoining their families and their secular life, carrying in their hearts the living presence of what they had just lived.


rofl rofl rofl rofl

All that mysticism doesn't seem to have done much for Thug Cristovao.

Oh look, more people pretending they've never heard of Cristovao, and didn't know nuffink:

Note: It should be noted that Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, reported as Commander of Lisbon, hasn’t been a member of the Order since December 13, 2014. The recent criminal cahrges faced by Paulo Pereira Crisóvão pertain only to his private life and do not commit the Order or its members in any way. The Order regrets to have been misslead for his previous clean criminal record and will duly add his name, according to statutes, to the public record of those revoked from the Order.

Presumably, pretendy Knights Templar don't bother reading Portuguese newspapers. Well, they can't, or they would have known the first charges against him involving football thuggery and gangsterism were laid in 2012.

https://jatyk2.forumotion.co.uk/t2736-cristovao-formally-charged-on-seven-counts

And they didn't know about him leaving the PJ under a cloud years previously after the rape allegations and the theft conviction?

Cipriano scandal didn't bother them, either? I know, they didn't know nuffink. rofl rofl rofl
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Post  lily Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:25 pm

As I was reading your post I was listening to Elgar's Enigma Variation - Nimrod.

It really heightened the effect of him joining in the ceremony. Then I got to the part where he was kicked out.

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl



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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:36 pm

Could have been worse, Lily, considering what happened to the REAL Knights Templar, not this bunch of posers.

Oh, and that reminds me:

As the sun was setting in the distant horizon of the Roca Cape, the westernmost extent of mainland in continental Europe, the very place where land abruptly ends and the vast ocean begins,


Isn't that where LaffinThug and BlondieFrances got into a brawl in the course of their drunken Ghoul Tour? Something to do with sunglasses?
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Post  lily Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:57 pm

Shocked Oh my word! Not only that, wasn't there a scratch to the face also from Secret Agent Peroxide?



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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:58 pm

I think so, Lily, I can't remember the full squalid story. rofl rofl rofl
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Post  lily Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:58 pm

It was a trip filled with all the drama of a daytime soap if you ask me.

She stayed at the OC. She wrote that it was really dark and scary at night.

Laffin on his trust stead - a rented motorbike.

Ravishing (in her mind - we have seen the photoshops) bimbo seated on the rear. So much so that it stirred the local priest to 'hit on her'. That included RM and the gaggle of journos who she alleged attempted something bad.

Laffin had gifts for his idol and his then wife. A bottle of Jura and a bunch of fake flowers.

They did get to visit with Astro for a meal, IIRC.

They updated the 3As when they could. She was given the nic Agent Peroxide.

It went something like that. rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl



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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:56 pm

Looks like the Lighthouse at the End of the World has been struck by the Curse of Gonzo, then....

I wonder why the Knights of St Gonzo are so desperate to stop people knowing what the Gonc Fund has been spent on? It only makes people suspicious he's spent it on some of his favourite things.....

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Post  Pedro Silva Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:00 pm

the much sooner this happens the better:

"The Portuguese authorities seem determined to clean house and bring these corrupt scumbags to justice, so no doubt they will be asking a lot of questions......."
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Post  lily Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:36 pm

The silly silly people prefer to look the other way knowing that they have done something repugnant where the Find Madeleine Fund is concerned.

Do these fools really imagine, even for a second, that their own awful deeds should be overlooked?

They can't have it both ways, so why should we allow them to think otherwise?  

Their childish attempts at deflection are pathetic to say the least.  Pcorneater
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Post  greenink211 Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:00 pm

bb1 wrote:Could have been worse, Lily, considering what happened to the REAL Knights Templar, not this bunch of posers.

Oh, and that reminds me:

As the sun was setting in the distant horizon of the Roca Cape, the westernmost extent of mainland in continental Europe, the very place where land abruptly ends and the vast ocean begins,


Isn't that where LaffinThug and BlondieFrances got into a brawl in the course of their drunken Ghoul Tour? Something to do with sunglasses?

Were they in the Lisbon area? Cabo Roca is 40km east of Lisbon. Beautiful place.
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:02 pm

Heaven knows where they were, Greenink. They were definitely in PDL at one point....anything else is possible with those two.
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Post  Pedro Silva Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:21 pm

he is no knight, what he truly is, is an insane buffoon.
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Post  bb1 Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:44 pm

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/ex-pj-detective-remanded-in-custody/34204


Ex-PJ detective remanded in custody
IN NEWS · 09-03-2015 12:40:00 · 0 COMMENTS

Former PJ police detective Paulo Pereira Cristóvão has been ordered to await trial and a series of criminal charges behind bars. Among the charges faced by Cristovão are armed robbery, criminal association and kidnapping.

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The decision, reached last Friday, comes after his arrest last week as his former colleagues drew nearer to concluding an investigation initiated in July 2014 related to a series of criminal charges. Up until last week week, investigations had resulted in the arrest of 12 people, including three PSP police officers.

The Former Polícia Judiciária (PJ) detective and ex-Sporting Vice President Paulo Pereira Cristovão gained international widespread prominence after authoring a book, Estrela da Madeleine (Madeleine’s Star) in which he analyses the disappearance of Madeleine McCann from her holiday apartment almost eight years ago.

Cristovão, also a former president of the Portuguese Association for Missing Children, has been linked to these 12 suspects and is said to have worked at “identifying potential victims who would then be robbed inside their homes. These robberies would be undertaken by police officers simulating house searches, armed with forged legal warrants. On occasion, these searches would be conducted by officers dressed in their respective uniforms”, culminating in robberies, PJ sources said following the announcement of Cristovão’s arrest.


What an evil-looking thug! Wonder just how many people he's scared into silence over the years when he was riding high?
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Post  Pedro Silva Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:22 pm

about: "Former PJ police detective Paulo Pereira Cristóvão has been ordered to await trial and a series of criminal charges behind bars.", that is good, he truly deserves it.
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Post  lily Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:28 pm

A vain evil thug at that, Bonny. Take a look at the center of his head above his forehead. He's had hair transplant plugs put in there which are clearly visible.

Don't tell me that he might also have had other cosmetic procedures?
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Oh yes......so he has!

Wonder if he'll be giving out male grooming tips to his fellow jailbirds?
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Post  lily Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:33 pm

Don't see why not after they give him their tip of soap on a rope. biggrin

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Post  bb1 Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:37 pm

Dirty cops can, I understand, be assured of a warm welcome in jail, from old acquaintances. Pcorneater
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