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Post  lily Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:11 pm

See, Dr/Mr Evil at it again.  He must not sleep.  

His heart must be missing.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:08 pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-15/major-shift-obama-cancels-us-troop-withdrawal-afghanistan

Obama Explains Why The U.S. Isn't Pulling Out Of Afghanistan After All - Live Feed

Pity he hadn't changed his mind BEFORE the Taliban swarmed back again. I see no possible outcome besides more American deaths for nothing.
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Post  lily Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:18 pm

He's not fit to run a Walmart let alone anything else.
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Post  bb1 Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:16 pm

Fox version of Trump speech about 9/11:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/18/trump-suggests-might-have-prevented-11-attacks-extending-feud-with-bush/?intcmp=hplnws

Trump, a first-time candidate, implied his stance on immigration could have kept out the terrorists who slipped into the United States and trained in the country to hijack the four commercial airliners and kill nearly 3,000 people on American soil on Sept. 11, 2001.

“I am extremely, extremely tough on illegal immigration,” Trump told "Fox News Sunday." “I believe that if I were running things, … I doubt that those people would have been in the country.”


RT version:

https://www.rt.com/usa/319025-trump-bush-911-spat/

Trump, who retains leadership in the Republican polls, while Bush, the long-term favorite languishes in fourth place, continued to contrast himself and the former US president on Fox News Sunday.

“I am extremely, extremely tough on illegal immigration. I’m extremely tough on people coming into this country. I believe that if I were running things, I doubt those people would have been in the country,” said Trump.

READ MORE: Virginia isn’t for Trump lovers: Brawl breaks out at billionaire’s campaign event (VIDEO)

The prospective candidate also said that he would have ensured closer cooperation between rival government security agencies, and would have listened to those intelligence officials who had warned Bush of an imminent attack.

“I don’t want Jeb Bush saying, ‘My brother kept us safe,’” summed up Trump, whose fortune is estimated at $4.5 billion by Forbes, and over $10 billion by him.


It's actually the second part, which I cannot see in the Fox report, which is more important. A good few intelligence people DID warn that an attack involving Saudis and airliners was coming, and were ignored.

The truth about 9/11 isn't in garbage about hologram planes and imaginary controlled demolitions, it's in who knew it was coming - and who profited from it.

And why innocent Iraq was attacked instead of guilty Saudia Arabia.
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Post  bb1 Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:57 pm

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-my-immigration-plans-would-have-prevented-911/

Unless I am seeing things, the part about the intelligence failings is missing from that report, too.
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Post  lily Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:55 pm

Do you mean to tell me that the media manipulates things?  I am shocked......
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Post  bb1 Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:17 pm

Interesting, isn't it, Lily? It puts a different slant on what Trump actually said. I suspect he may have access to some absolutely damning information.
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Post  bb1 Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:31 pm

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/10/18/trump-bush-feud-fires-over-911

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Antoine3 7 hours ago
G.W.Bush was president when 9/11 attack happen so he did not keep this country safe.And it has slowly but inexorably become clear that the CIA uncovered key details of the 9/11 plot several months in advance, and tried on numerous occasions to get the Bush administration to take action to stop it.The Bush Administration level of inaction was so negligent that senior intelligence officials actually considered resigning, so as not to be in a position of responsibility when the attack took place:


Yup. It's about time those redacted pages concerning the Saudis were released.
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Post  lily Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:17 pm

I think it will be a cold day in hell first.  Unless, a future president thinks differently?
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Post  bb1 Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:26 pm

A future president who isn't in anyone's pocket might....
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Post  lily Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:11 pm

Yes.  I do hope that person gets elected.
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Post  bb1 Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:49 pm

http://www.infowars.com/trump-bush-knew-in-advance-911-was-coming/

Doubling down on his comments regarding George W. Bush and 9/11, GOP frontrunner Donald Trump has declared that the then president knew that the attacks were coming.

Appearing on CNN’s New Day Trump refused to apologise for previous comments about Bush and the 9/11 attacks, going as far to say that the president was given warning, and that he had “advanced notice” that it was coming

“Look, his brother gets hit on, he’s a loyal person, he’s loyal to his brother,” Trump said referring to his rival Jeb Bush. “But his brother made some mistakes.”

“His brother could have made a mistake with the actual hit,” Trump continued.

“They did know it was coming. George Tenet, the head of the CIA, told them it was coming. So they did have advanced notice,” the billionaire candidate added.

Trump emphasized once again that he was not “blaming” Bush for 9/11, but did say “They said that our country was safe under Bush. Well, what about the World Trade Center coming down in the worst attack in history?”

Trump is entirely correct that US intelligence, and in particular the CIA had advanced knowledge of 9/11. This was documented by every major news organisation just days and weeks after the attacks and it is not a conspiracy theory.
....more at link.

Go, Donald! Get all this crap out in public - and the people behind it at a 21st century Nuremberg trial.
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Post  lily Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:06 pm

Bonny, that is what I hope will happen too.  

I said before, I don't particularly like him as a person, but that is nothing to do with him being the president.  I so hope he is the GOP candidate and that he wins.  The US needs the best person at this time and the rest of the world deserves that from us too.
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Post  bb1 Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:03 pm

Only someone like Trump can do it, Lily. Too much about 9/11 has been tainted by conspiraloons that don't understand physics or engineering and end up ranting about controlled explosions and Building 7.

They never seem to show the slightest interest in the odd fluctuations in the stock markets just before 9/11, though...
This is interesting:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/19/prescient-concern-candidate-donald-trump-warned-of-attack-over-a-year-before-9-11-2001/

Prescient Concern – Candidate Donald Trump Warned of Attack Over a Year Before 9-11-2001…

I bet Trump has copies of all Hillary's emails - just like Putin, Xi, etc....
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Post  bb1 Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:10 pm

Interesting comment on that link-

Jeb Bush was Governor of Florida when 12 of the 9/11 hijackers got Florida driver’s licenses that allowed them to rent cars, rent planes and of course, board commercial aircraft without additional scrutiny. Mohammad Atta was on the terrorist watch list and there was a warrant out for his arrest but when he was pulled over by police in Florida, they let him go, simply telling him to show up in court the next month. I probably don’t need to point out that he didn’t show up. Many of the hijackers overstayed their visas and Jeb Bush let them run around Florida anyway. Jeb might want to rethink his immigration policy before someone blames HIM and not just his brother for 9/11.


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I am sure I read somewhere that the actor James Woods was on a flight with a Middle Eastern type who gave Woods bad vibes; he reported it, but nothing happened. And the other passenger went on to hijack a plane on 9/11?
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Post  lily Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:39 pm

He certainly was prescient.  Even mentioning bin Laden by name.  Shocked

It was pretty disgraceful how easily people could get the licenses etc under his watch.  That should not have happened.

I wonder what he (Trump) will come out with next?
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Post  bb1 Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:47 pm

He seems to be very good at making almost casual remarks which end up damaging the opposition horribly.
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Post  lily Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:15 pm

I know.  roflroflrofl

They do seem to dislike him.  Don't know why.  Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:22 pm

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Post  lily Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:50 pm

........and they called Nixon Tricky Dicky.
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Post  bb1 Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:07 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1573801/joe-biden-opts-out-of-2016-white-house-race

Joe Biden Opts Out Of 2016 White House Race
The vice president says although he won't be a candidate, he "will not be silent" as his party looks to retain the Oval Office
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Post  lily Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:21 pm

Good.  biggrin
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Post  bb1 Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:46 pm

I keep thinking that no-one could possibly be dumb enough to vote for Hillary or Sanders - and then I look at the Coffee Party...

https://www.facebook.com/coffeeparty

It's like a parody of moonbattery...
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Post  lily Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:09 pm

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

At least you can now understand Jerry Brown.  biggrin
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