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Post  lily Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:26 pm

I didn't know that, Bonny, but it does explain a lot. biggrin
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:46 pm

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/carson-other-campaigns-sabotaged-us-dirty-tricks

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire – Dr. Ben Carson and his campaign accused Sen. Ted Cruz’s team of sabotaging Carson in the Iowa caucuses Monday night by encouraging Cruz supporters to tell voters at their caucus sites – incorrectly – that Carson was dropping out of the race.

“It was happening all over,” Iowa State Director Ryan Rhodes told MSNBC. “One of the precincts Candy [Carson, the candidate’s wife] walked into, she had to correct the record. She actually walked in, in Ankeny, and gave a speech about no, he’s still in the race and that’s a lie.”

Carson came in fourth place in the state’s caucuses
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Not awfully Christian of Pious Ted.
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Post  lily Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:53 pm

I think he's a complete a-hole to be honest. biggrin

He's just another bought politician. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:57 pm

I hadn't paid much attention to him until recently, Lily. Now I think he is just awful, a complete phoney.
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Post  lily Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:00 pm

You got him in one, Bonny.
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:10 pm

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/02/02/ted-cruz-apologizes-to-carson-for-lying-about-his-race-withdrawal-well-sort-of/

“Last night when our political team saw the CNN post saying that Dr. Carson was not carrying on to New Hampshire and South Carolina, our campaign updated grassroots leaders just as we would with any breaking news story. That’s fair game. What the team then should have done was send around the follow-up statement from the Carson campaign clarifying that he was indeed staying in the race when that came out. his was a mistake from our end, and for that I apologize to Dr. Carson.”…

I can well understand why Cruz is so disliked in Washington.
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:12 pm

Oh look, someone kept the evidence:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/breaking-carson-accuses-cruz-camp-of-foul-play-at-iowa-caucuses/

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The Cruz camp sent this out at 7:01 PM.


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Post  lily Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:29 pm

He is a complete and utter a-hole.
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Post  bb1 Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:56 am

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Post  lily Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:33 pm

I saw the poor child do that yesterday.

On another point, it seems some of the votes in Iowa between Hill & Sanders were settled on a coin toss. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:40 pm

And, astoundingly, Hills won 6 times out of six? Pcorneater
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Post  lily Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:10 pm

Lucky lady. biggrin
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Post  bb1 Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:53 pm

The Donald is not happy....

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
During primetime of the Iowa Caucus, Cruz put out a release that @RealBenCarson was quitting the race, and to caucus (or vote) for Cruz.

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
The Voter Violation certificate gave poor marks to the unsuspecting voter(grade of F) and told them to clear it up by voting for Cruz. Fraud

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
Many people voted for Cruz over Carson because of this Cruz fraud. Also, Cruz sent out a VOTER VIOLATION certificate to thousands of voters.

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
And finally, Cruz strongly told thousands of caucusgoers (voters) that Trump was strongly in favor of ObamaCare and "choice" - a total lie!

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified.



Well, that's not going to happen - but I hope Trump's people dig out every nasty little secret Cruz thinks he has buried after this. I say this as someone who would rather not see Planet Earth turned into a cinder because Cruz thinks it's time for the Rapture.....
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Post  lily Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:04 pm

Cruz was playing to the crowd, Bonny. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:08 pm

Because of the hoo-ha over Trump, not enough attention, IMO, is being paid to Sanders/Hillary. Now, I think Sanders is a daft old Leftie, but that doesn't change the fact that it is looking very much as if HE actually won. All sorts of strange things seem to have been going on at those caucus meetings.

The only consolation seems to be that the dodgy practices by the 'winners' have made virtually no difference to the delegates alotted.
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Post  lily Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:09 pm

That is very true..... Pcorneater
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Post  lily Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:28 pm

You bet.... I forgot that a fly landed on his mouth. rofl rofl
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Post  bb1 Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:33 pm

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14250945.Reformer_leaders_at_Glasgow_Mosque_resign_citing_threats_of_violence/

The reformers running Glasgow Central Mosque have resigned en masse citing threats to them and their families.

Seven office-holders, including the Mosque's president and general secretary, have stood down in what solicitor Aamer Anwar called an "extremely sad and shameful day for Scotland's Muslims".

The men - who have been campaigning to give women a bigger role in the mosque - said they were facing aggressive intimidation now under police investigation.


Their resignation came amid increasingly bitter turf war between young reformers and the so-called Old Guard, mainly Orthodox Pakistani-born elders revealed in a series of stories in The Herald.

Their opponents dismissed their reports of threats as "lies" and "politics".

Some reformers claim they were told not to attend Friday prayers last week.

Background: David Leask on the two traditions in conflict at Glasgow Central Mosque

General-Secretary Nabeel Shaikh, President Maqbool Rasul and five others on Wednesday morning confirmed they had resigned.

In a statement, they said: "Due to a number of people undermining day-to-day operations, meetings and even sabotaging mosque property, alongside threats of physical harm to executive members including their wives and children, we have no option but to resign from the executive committee in order to protest against the backwardness displayed by a minority of people in power."


Ah, that islamic message of peace and tolerance!
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Post  lily Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:52 pm

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Post  bb1 Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:22 pm

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14251236.Glasgow_Mosque_conservative___You_have_to_change_for_Islam__Islam_does_not_change_for_you_/

Dr Kausar said stressed Islam, in his view, could not bend to what he saw as Western democratic impositions on traditional practice.

He said: "Regarding our ladies, they are quite happy. The Mosque is a religious thing. Islam is not a small religion or a young one. It has been going for 1600 years and it has ruled over large areas of the world.

"All the rules for women and children are there in Islam.

"We have to follow Islam's rules, which are made by the prophet and the Koran. We don't bring it in to the western politics. There are women who say they want to be Imams. It is not allowed in Islam. It is not needed. You can't pass the rule in parliament for the Mosque. Islam is a faith. If you believe in a religion you have to believe in all that it dictates."

Dr Kausar also said he believed other ethnic groups were happy with the way the Mosque was run. "You can see the Somalians standing shoulder to shoulder, he said. Complaints about lack of non-Pakistani representation, he said, came from the reformers. He said: "The group you are mentioning they are complaining because they have the AGM in front of them and they might lose their support. It is just to build their support. It is politics."


At least he's being honest about islam and its bigotry.
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Post  lily Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:24 pm

True....
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:43 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12139474/Donald-Trumps-plane-makes-emergency-landing.html

Donald Trump's plane was forced to make an emergency landing in Nashville, Tennessee, on Wednesday because of engine trouble.
The Boeing 757 was on its way from Mr Trump's home base of New York to Little Rock, Arkansas, where the property mogul and Republican presidential candidate was due to address a rally.
The private jet landed safely at 4:40 pm after reporting engine problems, according to the Federal Aviation Authority, which said it would investigate the incident.
Mr Trump travelled the rest of the way in a charter aircraft, a campaign spokeswoman said.


Probably a genuine technical problem, but the timing has to raise eyebrows. If Trump gets much closer to destroying the corrupt Washington establishment, he'd be well advised to stay clear of grassy knolls and book depositories.
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Post  lily Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:52 pm

I hear you, Bonny. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:25 pm

I haven't been paying much attention to the Dems, as I can't stand Hills, Sanders=Corbyn, and the pair of them have all the charisma of a soggy, mildewed flannel.

But in the interests of fairness, some debate or other:

http://www.weaselzippers.us/254953-open-thread-msnbc-democratic-debate/#disqus_thread

It sounds absolutely dire.
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