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Post  Lamplighter Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:21 pm

Premier Inn 'extremely concerned' over at least three of its hotels 'with the same cladding as Grenfell Tower' including one opened by Theresa May.

It's 'extremely concerned' about Maidenhead, Brentford and Tottenham cladding
Cladding does not appear to comply with government guidance for tall buildings
Theresa May opened Maidenhead hotel in 2015, revealed she stayed in them
But they they stress that it appears less flammable type than used at Grenfell
Fire safety concerns are now reaching beyond the housing sector after tragedy

Premier Inn fears it has fire trap cladding on three of its newest hotels as the scandal spread from tower blocks today.

The hotel giant is 'extremely concerned' about Grenfell Tower-style panels at its buildings in Brentford, Tottenham and Maidenhead, which was opened by Prime Minister and local MP Theresa May in 2015.

Until now, fears over cladding have centred on high-rise council flats, but the safety concerns are now reaching beyond the housing sector.

The hotel chain said that the aluminium composite cladding on its hotels in Berkshire and London did not appear to comply with government guidance for tall buildings. More at link.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4631706/Premier-Inn-concerned-Grenfells-style-cladding.html?ITO=1490





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Post  Jean-Pierre.t50 Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:22 pm

It's happening in Islington and Camden?  Can't be owt to do with Jeremy.  It must be the Tories fault.  Somehow.  It's all down to The Tory government. Bet it's evil Thatcher. That'll be it.  Phew.

Anyway the Chalcot estate was built between 1965 and 1968. Typical Tory government - putting the Working classes in dangerous tower blocks. Anyway who was the prime minister at the time? Oh yes, that Harold Wilson. Bloody Tory!!



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Post  Lamplighter Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:29 pm

Jean-Pierre.t50 wrote:It's happening in Islington and Camden?  Can't be owt to do with Jeremy.  It must be the Tories fault.  Somehow.  It's all down to Thatcher.  That'll be it.  Phew.
Err, no.   It's all the fault of the mainly Labor councils in the mid 1970s, pre-Thatcher, when they were told of the problems and they ignored the advice and went blundering on as usual, not passing on what they knew to the Tory councils. And who is MP for Islington?   Why, the phantom Corby, who hasn't been seen recently cos he's at Glastonbury.   Hope he gets muddied!    LL


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Post  bb1 Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:34 pm

The Fire Brigade report on that block in Labour-run Camden sounds absolutely horrific, Jean-Pierre. Apart from the building flaws involving cladding and gas pipes, residents have seemingly been taking down internal walls, doing their own electrical work, removing plasterboard so their flatscreen TVs were flush to the wall.....you get the picture.

I am sure Jeremy will be along any minute now to rant at them for their anti-social behaviour, and to comfort his distressed Islington constituents...

What's that you say? He's busy rabble-rousing a bunch of adoring poseurs with more money than sense at a very expensive music festival??????
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Post  bb1 Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:37 pm

Why, the phantom Corby, who hasn't been seen recently cos he's at Glastonbury. Hope he gets muddied!

Oh, the stupid sheep will cheer every word of his blethers, LL. The ironic fact that said sheep are themselves a rather privileged section of society will never dawn on them - I doubt if many of the residents of the tower blocks would contemplate paying out hundreds - thousands - of pounds to camp in muddy fields.
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Post  bb1 Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:30 pm

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Good to see Jezza enjoying himself while his Islington constituents are being evacuated from their tower block home by their Labour council!
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Post  Sabot Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:11 pm


Am I allowed to say this? Why are at least 90% of them foreign. How many of them are immigrants?

My leaving of England had absolutely nothing to do with immigrants or immigration, although I have to say that I was a bit bemused by the number of foreigners in London on the occasion of my last visit to the city of my misbegotten birth. But I never did go there very often anyway, and it was around Harrods, so I thought they were just shopping.

I don't honestly think I am racist. I certainly wasn't when I was growing up, and my Dad said that London Transport would have collapsed without that first group that arrived. There was nothing wrong with any of them as far as I could see.

I never once saw a hijab during my life in Britain, and I never saw one in Singapore either. The woman just didn't wear them. So I just don't understand what has happened.
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Post  bb1 Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:31 pm

Lots of questions being raised by this tragedy, Sabot, not least why no-one seems to know just how many people were in that block of flats. On top of everything else, was the housing association turning a blind eye to sub-letting there because doing anything about it would have been 'racist'?

I don't know, but I suspect a good few worms are going to escape from this opened can, and not only over the cladding and gas supply.
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Post  Sabot Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:55 pm


So, a bunch of immigrants come to Britain and get housed by some local Council because they are homeless, and then they sublet to other possibly illegal immigrants for probably twice the rent, no doubt earned working illegally, while the original homeless tenant pockets the extra cash, and then lives where?

This would be screamingly funny if it wasn't so bloody awful.

Will the original tenant now be claiming compensation while their misdemeanours lie burned to death and unidentified?

Will the illegal subtenants be claiming compensation when they had no right to be there?

What a f*cking mess.
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Post  bb1 Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:10 pm

Will the original tenant now be claiming compensation while their misdemeanours lie burned to death and unidentified?

Quite possibly, Sabot. And the person responsible for most of this mess is none other than one T. Blair, who started the whole business of swaddling tower blocks in EU-approved 'environmentally friendly' plastic and also invited the whole world to come to the UK just to p*ss off the natives:

Conman Blair's cynical conspiracy to deceive the British people and let in 2million migrants against the rules: Explosive new biography lays ex-PM's betrayal bare
Tom Bower's new book Broken Vows: Tony Blair - The Tragedy of Power lays bare how PM presided over a silent conspiracy to change face of UK
Book reveals how Blair instructed ministers to wave tens of thousands of asylum seekers into the UK under cover of their being ‘economic migrants’
Also sheds light on his shocking dealings with some of the world's worst dictators, his relationship with Wendi Deng and Cherie's jealousy


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3466485/How-Blair-cynically-let-two-million-migrants-Explosive-biography-reveals-PM-s-conspiracy-silence-immigration-debate.html#ixzz4kwrEqrCo
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None of these horrors would have happened, IMO, if he had left things alone, with most immigrants coming from the Commonwealth, who at least have a shared history, however bloody at times, with the UK, and came here for good reasons, like work, and who did integrate with wider society.

Oh no, Blair had to try his hand at social engineering:

The main aim of allowing in millions of people was to make the country ‘see the benefit of a multicultural society’



That's worked out well, hasn't it?
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Post  Sabot Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:47 pm


Blair's main aim was to infiltrate more Labour Voters. I never had a problem with Commonwealth Citizens who had a right to be there.

Singapore was multi cultural, and it worked. Most of "The Sons of the Soil" didn't actually contribute very much, mainly because they didn't have to. The State paid for them.
The Chinese did all of the work, and The Indians did a fairly good job of administrating, apart from the fact that they thought that they were better than everyone else, but no one minded too much about that because they were quite good at it. And they were ever polite.

The ghettos however, were all Muslim, sons of the soil.

Not sure what this has got to do with anything. But I am feeling even more heart felt sick at what has happened to England. And it is an English problem. Thank mine own God that I got out when I did.

There is a Village Fete tonight, but I probably won't be going. Robin Dominic has had a bit too much to drink already. The village won't care, but I will.
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Post  bb1 Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:18 pm

Dozens of firefighters are tackling a huge blaze at a block of flats in London.
Flames were seen shooting from the windows with thick black smoke billowing into the sky above Turin Street in Bethnal Green.
The building's roof appears to have been set alight by the blaze with terrified locals seen gathering nearby to watch the inferno.
Bethnal Green Road has been closed as firefighters tackle the blaze with eight engines sent to the scene.
London Fire Brigade said flames had engulfed a third floor flat and then spread to the roof of the the four-storey building.
A spokesman said one person has been treated for the effects of smoke inhalation.



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Whoever set their chip pan on fire isn't going to be awfully popular with their neighbours.....
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Post  bb1 Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:14 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/london-tower-block-evacuation-4000-displaced-in-camden-10925745

Emotions have been running high in north London, with many residents complaining about having to leave their homes at such short notice.

Dozens of residents have refused to evacuate, with both Camden Council and the London Fire Brigade advising "in the strongest possible terms" for those still inside their buildings to take up temporary accommodation.

Ms Gould has warned that the council may explore "legal routes" which would force people to leave their homes.


Saint Jezza got nothing to say about this? Oh sorry, I forgot - Camden is Labour, and this is a Labour screw-up.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:19 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4636124/Chaotic-scenes-residents-flee-death-trap-high-rises.html

The tower block refugees: Chaotic scenes as poor residents flee death trap high-rises to bag mattresses on a leisure centre floor - as up to 20,000 people across the country face evacuation

Time Jezza left the Pyramid stage and his worshipping fans and sorted out the chaos caused by this Labour council. Or maybe he should just resign?

Seems a bit heartless to be whooping it up in Somerset while his Islington constituents suffer....
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Post  Lamplighter Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:07 am

As he has been MP for Islington North since 1983 he is equally culpable over the cladding disaster. LL
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:23 am

It rather demonstrates how unfit Corbyn is for office, that he couldn't keep his trap shut until more was known, LL.

Good God, Grenfell was still burning when he was shouting about it being caused by 'Tory austerity'. It didn't seem to occur to him that incompetence/corruption/sloppy work cuts across all political parties.

He's a nasty fraud, IMO, and these sheep that are cheering his every word need to wake up and face reality. They might also like to grasp that neither he, nor his fellow Trots, have done the slightest practical thing to help those affected by this deadly shambles, they've just shouted and rabble-roused.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:25 am

http://news.sky.com/story/tower-block-cladding-27-buildings-fail-fire-safety-tests-10925792

All the cladding on high-rise buildings judged to be potentially at risk has failed Government combustability tests, it has emerged.

Communities Secretary Sajid Javid said 34 buildings in 17 local authority areas are so far affected but tests in other areas are ongoing.


And I would lay odds that those 17 councils are all Labour controlled, as Tory councils are fairly rare in urban areas.
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Post  Lamplighter Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:53 am

And I would lay odds that those 17 councils are all Labour controlled, as Tory councils are fairly rare in urban areas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_make-up_of_local_councils_in_the_United_Kingdom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_London_boroughs

Not sure if this is up-to-date but gives an idea of who controls what.   LL
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:14 pm

Thanks, LL, interesting - it will be up to date, the local elections were only in May.

And it looks like Labour-run Camden ignored residents just as much as Tory-run Kensington:

http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/camden-tower-blocks-fire-safety-concerns-unheard-for-years-say-residents-1-5068278

Camden tower blocks’ fire safety concerns unheard for years, say residents

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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:38 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/grenfell-tower-response-60-high-rise-blocks-fail-fire-safety-tests-10927143

Sixty high-rise buildings in 25 local authorities have failed fire cladding safety tests carried out in the wake of the Grenfell blaze, the Government said.

The figure amounts to a 100% failure rate as all buildings that were inspected have failed, the Department for Communities said.

The number rose from 34 tower blocks in 17 local authorities, and hundreds more authorities have yet to be tested.

Officials are conducting inspections across the country after at least 79 people are believed to have been killed in the Grenfell Tower fire in London this month.

The tower's cladding is believed to have rapidly spread that blaze up the building's 24 storeys
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Sixty? Just horrific - in similar malign circumstances, any one of them could have suffered the same fate as Grenfell Tower.
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Post  Lamplighter Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:41 pm

Grenfell Tower fire victims were 'murdered by political decisions', claims John McDonnell.

Grenfell Tower fire victims were "murdered by political decisions", claimed shadow chancellor John McDonnell in a debate at Glastonbury Festival.

Seventy-nine people died in the London tower block fire.

Mr McDonnell’s remarks come as evacuations of tower blocks in Camden, North London, begin after 34 blocks nationwide are revealed to have failed fire safety tests.

Politicians’ failure to build enough homes and to allow housing developers to pursue profit over need “murdered those families”, said McDonnell.

The shadow Chancellor was speaking in Glastonbury's Left Field tent the day after Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn drew thousands of festival goers to the Pyramid stage.

Mr McDonnell said: “Is democracy working? It didn’t work if you were a family living on the 20th floor of Grenfell Tower.

“Those families, those individuals – 79 so far and there will be more – were murdered by political decisions that were taken over recent decades.

“The decision not to build homes and to view housing as only for financial speculation rather than for meeting a basic human need made by politicians over decades murdered those families.

“The decision to close fire stations and to cut 10,000 firefighters and then to freeze their pay for over a decade contributed to those deaths inevitably and they were political decisions.”

Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, who was Mayor of London when cuts to the fire service were made, has accused Labour of politicising the Grenfell Tower disaster. Mr Johnson wrote on his Facebook page that Labour were engaged with “outrageous politicking” and “political game-playing” over the fire.

Labour MP Diane Abbott told a Progress meeting the previous day that the Conservative approach to social housing played a part in the disaster.

“The Tories think people in social housing are second-class citizens. And, as we have seen from Grenfell [Tower], they are offering them second-class standards of safety. So, a direct consequence of that, a direct consequence of outsourcing … and a direct consequence of deregulation.”

Mr McDonnell’s London constituency Hayes and Harlington is just miles from Grenfell Tower.

Green Party co-leader Jonathan Bartley and economist Faiza Shaheen also took part in the Glastonbury debate about whether democracy is broken, chaired by Guardian journalist John Harris.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:48 pm

Oh, just STFU, Labour, and stop exploiting the dead for political ends, it's obscene! It's only by sheer chance that this horror didn't happen to a Labour council.
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Post  Lamplighter Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:58 pm

bb1 wrote:Oh, just STFU, Labour,  and stop exploiting the dead for political ends, it's obscene! It's only by sheer chance that this horror didn't happen to a Labour council.
They are so desperate to get into power they are fast sounding like a evil load of sh*ts. They don't believe in democracy and this reaction shows just that. LL
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:43 pm

You notice that none of these millionaire Marxists have done anything to actually help the survivors of Grenfell? No offers to put them up in spare bedrooms, nothing. Just rabble-rousing.

Being cynical, I suspect Labour is trying to divert attention from its own role in all this. After all, it was Labour-run Camden that signed off on flammable cladding, fire doors that wouldn't stop a mouse, and dangerous gas supplies.

And let us not forget that Labour councils have been notorious for corruption for decades.....
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