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I would say she is, Bonny. That wouldn't look good as to who did what, when and why?
After all, she was only trying to tap all those millions of people who bought Kate's book. Now look at it, relegated to Barnes & Noble.
After all, she was only trying to tap all those millions of people who bought Kate's book. Now look at it, relegated to Barnes & Noble.
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Gringo, this post by Bonny states what Goncalo Amaral said to himself in the very early after Madeleine had gone missing. It is in his book.
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Here's a thing; in his book, Gonc states:
Friday May 4th
This morning I am worried; something isn't right in the account of the events
How could he possibly have known that?
People didn't start giving their long, rather complicated, statements until later in the day:
Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann, on the 4th of May 2007, at 11.15 a.m.
Witness statement of Kate Marie Healy, on the 4th of May 2007, at 2.20 p.m.
But in his own words, Gonc is already off on a witch-hunt while he is still eating breakfast:
We need information about the parents and their friends, to know who they are, what they do, if they have problems in their country, if the children were victims of abuse, if the family, neighbours, friends could have noticed any suspicious behaviour, what are their jobs, if they work full-time, etc. Is any member of their family depressed or suffered from depression in the past? Do the couple maintain good relationships? Are they implicated in serious litigation? Do they have enemies? For what reason? So, I telephone Glen Powers, the English liaison officer in Portugal, inform him of events and request that he relay our requests for reports. We consider these to be of the greatest importance and await sensitive responses to guide our investigation.
While I am on the phone and my daughters are sleeping, Sofia makes breakfast for me. She is quiet and regards me with a questioning look, as if she suspects that from today, she won't see much of me. It's not the first time this has happened: she knew that I wouldn't count my time in a case like this.
He's already made up his mind, hasn't he?
And please note - nowhere does he mention the small detail that, at almost the same time as he is deciding the McCanns DONE IT, he himself has been made an arguido because of his involvement in the proven torture of the mother of another missing child - conduct which has gained him a criminal conviction.
I wonder why that is?
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bb1 Today at 8:20 pm
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May 4th, the very day he is launching his witch-hunt against the McCanns.
http://aeiou.expresso.pt/policia-arguido-no-processo-das-agressoes-a-leonor-cipriano=f109569
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Goncalo Amaral -
is therefore condemned as a perpetrator of a crime of making false allegations to 1 year and 6 months of the sentence in prison, suspended for the same period -
Gonc's sentence for LYING upheld by Portuguese court
In case of harrassment from Truthseekers, contact:
Harlow Police Station
The High
Harlow
CM20 1HG
Telephone: 101 ext 300129
mobile: : 07969 130371.
or:
Carter Ruck,
6 St Andrew Street, London EC4A 3AE
Tel: +44 (0)20 7353 5005
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lily Today at 8:55 pm
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I would say he was rather mentally preoccupied. Also, how cruel was fate? Madeleine went missing when he was considering his fate concerning Joana Cipriano.
I do believe a psychiatrist could have a field day exploring all of this with Gonc.
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Here's a thing; in his book, Gonc states:
Friday May 4th
This morning I am worried; something isn't right in the account of the events
How could he possibly have known that?
People didn't start giving their long, rather complicated, statements until later in the day:
Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann, on the 4th of May 2007, at 11.15 a.m.
Witness statement of Kate Marie Healy, on the 4th of May 2007, at 2.20 p.m.
But in his own words, Gonc is already off on a witch-hunt while he is still eating breakfast:
We need information about the parents and their friends, to know who they are, what they do, if they have problems in their country, if the children were victims of abuse, if the family, neighbours, friends could have noticed any suspicious behaviour, what are their jobs, if they work full-time, etc. Is any member of their family depressed or suffered from depression in the past? Do the couple maintain good relationships? Are they implicated in serious litigation? Do they have enemies? For what reason? So, I telephone Glen Powers, the English liaison officer in Portugal, inform him of events and request that he relay our requests for reports. We consider these to be of the greatest importance and await sensitive responses to guide our investigation.
While I am on the phone and my daughters are sleeping, Sofia makes breakfast for me. She is quiet and regards me with a questioning look, as if she suspects that from today, she won't see much of me. It's not the first time this has happened: she knew that I wouldn't count my time in a case like this.
He's already made up his mind, hasn't he?
And please note - nowhere does he mention the small detail that, at almost the same time as he is deciding the McCanns DONE IT, he himself has been made an arguido because of his involvement in the proven torture of the mother of another missing child - conduct which has gained him a criminal conviction.
I wonder why that is?
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Goncalo Amaral -
is therefore condemned as a perpetrator of a crime of making false allegations to 1 year and 6 months of the sentence in prison, suspended for the same period -
Gonc's sentence for LYING upheld by Portuguese court
In case of harrassment from Truthseekers, contact:
Harlow Police Station
The High
Harlow
CM20 1HG
Telephone: 101 ext 300129
mobile: : 07969 130371.
or:
Carter Ruck,
6 St Andrew Street, London EC4A 3AE
Tel: +44 (0)20 7353 5005
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bb1 Today at 8:20 pm
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Enlarge this image Click to see fullsize
May 4th, the very day he is launching his witch-hunt against the McCanns.
http://aeiou.expresso.pt/policia-arguido-no-processo-das-agressoes-a-leonor-cipriano=f109569
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Goncalo Amaral -
is therefore condemned as a perpetrator of a crime of making false allegations to 1 year and 6 months of the sentence in prison, suspended for the same period -
Gonc's sentence for LYING upheld by Portuguese court
In case of harrassment from Truthseekers, contact:
Harlow Police Station
The High
Harlow
CM20 1HG
Telephone: 101 ext 300129
mobile: : 07969 130371.
or:
Carter Ruck,
6 St Andrew Street, London EC4A 3AE
Tel: +44 (0)20 7353 5005
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lily Today at 8:55 pm
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I would say he was rather mentally preoccupied. Also, how cruel was fate? Madeleine went missing when he was considering his fate concerning Joana Cipriano.
I do believe a psychiatrist could have a field day exploring all of this with Gonc.
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Thank you sabot. I feel grimey after reading it. Yuck!
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bb1 is right: "Madeleine' is an excellent book, Gringo, though not an easy read - a lot of people have read it with tears in their eyes".
If there is a book that is worth buying it, it is the book called Madeleine, all proceeds goes to the fund established to help find her.
For more information, please, visit the official website, where you can find all information, also where to buy the book called "Madeleine".
http://www.findmadeleine.com/index.html
If there is a book that is worth buying it, it is the book called Madeleine, all proceeds goes to the fund established to help find her.
For more information, please, visit the official website, where you can find all information, also where to buy the book called "Madeleine".
http://www.findmadeleine.com/index.html
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The Gringo wrote:Thank you sabot. I feel grimey after reading it. Yuck!
It is a bit nasty, isn't it. And we are all fairly convinced that Kate McCann could have come to some grief at Portimao Police Station if Gonc had thought he could get away with it. It seems to be common practice in Portugal by The Police Judiciare, here after known as The PJ. But all of their dirty dealings are coming out into The Public Domain, aided and abetted by we who holler and shout about it at every given opportunity. Gonc is actually awaiting Trial for personally beating up another witness. So we doubt that they will try that one again. So there is some serious purpose to our larking and joking even if it doesn't always look that way.
However, there are some very good people in Portugal who are just as disgusted as we are.
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Pedro Silva wrote:bb1 is right: "Madeleine' is an excellent book, Gringo, though not an easy read - a lot of people have read it with tears in their eyes".
If there is a book that is worth buying it, it is the book called Madeleine, all proceeds goes to the fund established to help find her.
For more information, please, visit the official website, where you can find all information, also where to buy the book called "Madeleine".
http://www.findmadeleine.com/index.html
Thank you Pedro. I am going to go there now. It must have been excruciating for Kate McCann to pen.
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I am going through the Portuguese press looking for glowing reviews of Gonc's latest opus; I haven't found any so far, glowing or otherwise.
I did find one or two older stories.
This, for instance:
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/goncalo-amaral-responde-a-queixa
Gonçalo Amaral: Respond to complaints
The former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral is now questioned in the Directory of Faro, in disciplinary action for violation of secrecy. The complaint, in January, was the McCanns
Disciplinary action by the PJ? My my- even if it was just a slap on the wrists as he had 'resigned', it doesn't look good on the CV.
I don't remember Morais mentioning that? The date is March 17, 2010
I did find one or two older stories.
This, for instance:
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/goncalo-amaral-responde-a-queixa
Gonçalo Amaral: Respond to complaints
The former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral is now questioned in the Directory of Faro, in disciplinary action for violation of secrecy. The complaint, in January, was the McCanns
Disciplinary action by the PJ? My my- even if it was just a slap on the wrists as he had 'resigned', it doesn't look good on the CV.
I don't remember Morais mentioning that? The date is March 17, 2010
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More on Cabrita's harrassment of witnesses, having illegally been given confidential information about them by someone in the PJ:
http://regretsandramblings.com/2011/11/09/amaral-interview-on-tvi/
At the end of June, the first cloud appeared. A Portuguese journalist
called Jes's mobile (he had left his number with the Portuguese police).
The journalist, who was writing for a magazine called Sol, called Jes
incessantly. We both work in television and cannot claim to be green
about the media, but this was a new experience. Jes learned this the
hard way. Torn between politeness and wanting to get the journalist off
the line without actually saying anything, he had to put the phone down,
but he had already said too much. Her article pitched the recollections
of "Jeremy Wilkins, television producer" against those of the "Tapas
Nine", the group of friends, including the McCanns, whom we had
nicknamed the Doctors. The piece was published at the end of June.
Throughout July, Sol's testimony meant Jes became incorporated into all
the Madeleine chronologies. More clouds began to gather - this time
above our house.
Bridget O'Donnell.
http://regretsandramblings.com/2011/11/09/amaral-interview-on-tvi/
At the end of June, the first cloud appeared. A Portuguese journalist
called Jes's mobile (he had left his number with the Portuguese police).
The journalist, who was writing for a magazine called Sol, called Jes
incessantly. We both work in television and cannot claim to be green
about the media, but this was a new experience. Jes learned this the
hard way. Torn between politeness and wanting to get the journalist off
the line without actually saying anything, he had to put the phone down,
but he had already said too much. Her article pitched the recollections
of "Jeremy Wilkins, television producer" against those of the "Tapas
Nine", the group of friends, including the McCanns, whom we had
nicknamed the Doctors. The piece was published at the end of June.
Throughout July, Sol's testimony meant Jes became incorporated into all
the Madeleine chronologies. More clouds began to gather - this time
above our house.
Bridget O'Donnell.
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Remember the Indian sighting? That no information was given about the woman who saw the child she wrongly thought to be Madeleine?
The pitchforkers might like to reflect that things like that are not made public now, partly because of their stalking and abuse of innocent people, and partly because of the activities of the likes of Cabrita.
The pitchforkers might like to reflect that things like that are not made public now, partly because of their stalking and abuse of innocent people, and partly because of the activities of the likes of Cabrita.
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Thanks for the reminder of the letter Lovely Sofa denies writing and sending, Tony:
http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.com/?zx=bd7d5ff2f7285e1a
Oh, and the entry in the PJ log:
I suppose that is a forgery as well? Problem is, neither of them are - which is why Gonc was so desperate to keep them out of one of his many court cases.
Surely even his fan club can figure out that, if they were both forged, then there would have been Hell to pay for something so serious? That there would have been an investigation into such a serious crime, and arrests? Instead of just Lovely Sofa's memory loss?
Also, that the log entry went freelance, thanks to a police officer disgusted by Gonc, should tell them all they need to know about how Gonc is regarded in Portugal, outside his own clique.
http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.com/?zx=bd7d5ff2f7285e1a
Oh, and the entry in the PJ log:
I suppose that is a forgery as well? Problem is, neither of them are - which is why Gonc was so desperate to keep them out of one of his many court cases.
Surely even his fan club can figure out that, if they were both forged, then there would have been Hell to pay for something so serious? That there would have been an investigation into such a serious crime, and arrests? Instead of just Lovely Sofa's memory loss?
Also, that the log entry went freelance, thanks to a police officer disgusted by Gonc, should tell them all they need to know about how Gonc is regarded in Portugal, outside his own clique.
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But, but, all happy families have little hiccups, don't they? The odd affair now and again, and separations, and threats of violence, and driving small daughters around, drunk in charge of a Police Car.
And what loyal brother would mind about the odd loan not being repaid. And how dare The Tax Man expect to be paid, let alone rapacious Mortgage Companies stealing the money from babes and sucklings who need their swimming pools.
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Following on from Tony's piece about the mess Rebelo inherited:
http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.com/2011/11/madeleine-new-police-chiefs-fury-over.html
Some quotes on the same subject from the Portuguese press, which I don't remember seeing before:
http://regretsandramblings.com/2011/11/11/a-catalogue-of-errors/
CdM:
Over the last few days, as the new Rebelo team has been gaining knowledge of the inquiry, the theory has been spreading that the investigation is weak, and with few clues. Yesterday, ‘Expresso’ cited sources at the PJ that said they had found “important material spread all over, which had not been included in the investigation”, and that the new team in Portimao “had a hideous amount of work to do” in order to organise the files. Worse: That the new team considered “there was a lot of important information that was despised* in the investigation
*may not be quite right, 'under estimated' or similar may be closer
http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.com/2011/11/madeleine-new-police-chiefs-fury-over.html
Some quotes on the same subject from the Portuguese press, which I don't remember seeing before:
http://regretsandramblings.com/2011/11/11/a-catalogue-of-errors/
CdM:
Over the last few days, as the new Rebelo team has been gaining knowledge of the inquiry, the theory has been spreading that the investigation is weak, and with few clues. Yesterday, ‘Expresso’ cited sources at the PJ that said they had found “important material spread all over, which had not been included in the investigation”, and that the new team in Portimao “had a hideous amount of work to do” in order to organise the files. Worse: That the new team considered “there was a lot of important information that was despised* in the investigation
*may not be quite right, 'under estimated' or similar may be closer
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From Bren's site:
This is from News of the World
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/...
Cops in bungle rumpus
The News of the World
21 October 2007
DETECTIVES who took over the Madeleine McCann case have blasted the first investigation team's flawed inquiry.
A Portuguese newspaper yesterday quoted a police source as saying they found key papers were not filed properly and vital information was disregarded.
The source added: "There was no central figure who knew how to distribute work.
"Blunders by the original investigators include failing to secure the crime scene and to carry out proper, controlled searches of the area.
A question. Was it Clawdia who said that Gonc was not in charge of the investigation but was the coordinator? Would that be the same position that I have highlighted above?
This is from News of the World
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/...
Cops in bungle rumpus
The News of the World
21 October 2007
DETECTIVES who took over the Madeleine McCann case have blasted the first investigation team's flawed inquiry.
A Portuguese newspaper yesterday quoted a police source as saying they found key papers were not filed properly and vital information was disregarded.
The source added: "There was no central figure who knew how to distribute work.
"Blunders by the original investigators include failing to secure the crime scene and to carry out proper, controlled searches of the area.
A question. Was it Clawdia who said that Gonc was not in charge of the investigation but was the coordinator? Would that be the same position that I have highlighted above?
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bb1 wrote:Thanks for the reminder of the letter Lovely Sofa denies writing and sending, Tony:
http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.com/?zx=bd7d5ff2f7285e1a
Oh, and the entry in the PJ log:
I suppose that is a forgery as well? Problem is, neither of them are - which is why Gonc was so desperate to keep them out of one of his many court cases.
Surely even his fan club can figure out that, if they were both forged, then there would have been Hell to pay for something so serious? That there would have been an investigation into such a serious crime, and arrests? Instead of just Lovely Sofa's memory loss?
Also, that the log entry went freelance, thanks to a police officer disgusted by Gonc, should tell them all they need to know about how Gonc is regarded in Portugal, outside his own clique.
Translation:
Alexandra Sofia de Sousa Manjua Leal
Excellency
Dr. Guilhermino Encarnação
Faro's Director of the Judiciary Police
Faro, 23/12/2007
Dear Sir:
As you know I'm the wife of the Coordinator of Criminal Investigation Gonçalo Amaral, with whom I have a daughter minor of age, with 4 years old, named Inês Sofia. You know also that Inês Sofia is living temporarily with her father.
By the present way I want to expose to you:
1. As agreed with my husband, Inês Sofia should spend Christmas with me, since last Thursday, day 20th. In that day, I contacted Gonçalo by mobile phone, and I was informed that Inês was with him, in trip to Coimbra and would only return on the following day;
2. On Friday 21st, I called again my husband, around lunch time. He informed me they were still on trip and at soon he arrive to Faro he will give me Inês. I waited until 8 PM without any news and Gonçalo never answered my phone calls. I then decided to go to a pub where I encountered Gonçalo and other colleagues of him consuming alcoholic beverages, asking him by Inês Sofia, he answered, visible drunken, that “she was resting” and that he will give me the child the following day. Then he departed, driving an Audi car from the police.
3. On Saturday 22nd , and after many attempts, my husband finally answered the phone in the middle of the afternoon, and asked me to get Inês in home. I rushed to the residence, but nobody was there. After a while, Gonçalo appeared driving the same car, and again in a notorious state of drunkenness. Having asked him for Inês Sofia, he ordered me to go inside the house, where he insulted me and threatened me of death. I abandoned the place.
4.Today, Sunday 23rd, and after numerous attempts, Gonçalo never answered his phone and he is not at home.
Unfortunately, this situation is not a unique and isolated act, and you Sir well know about other times in the past where I've also asked for your help. Once more, I ask again for your help, in order to guarantee Inês Sofia integrity, and in order to localize her.
Best Regards,
Alexandra Sofia de Sousa Manjua
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Maybe her sudden memory loss was a side-effect of the cosmetic surgery, Tony?
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