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The Lisbon Ripper
I've been trying to follow this story in the Portuguese press via google;
http://aeiou.expresso.pt/misterio-do-adn-do-estripador-de-lisboa-continua=f692035
DNA Mystery of the "Lisbon Ripper" continues
The mystery of the DNA of the " Ripper of Lisbon "remains despite collecting hair and cigarette .
10:57 Saturday, December 3, 2011
The PJ collected in 1993, while investigating the death of one of three victims of prostitutes "Lisbon Ripper", a cigarette filter (saliva), hair and pubic hair, but has not yet officially confirmed to have the DNA of the author of the murders. The case came back to win today after the weekly edition of the "SUN" ensure that discovery, in Matosinhos, Jose Guedes, unemployed, who claims to be the "Lisbon Ripper", but complain in Germany and other crimes in California. The records the survey has already filed (the crimes prescribed), that the Agency had access Lusa, reported that in connection with the murder of Mary John, a 27-year prostitute, drug user, well exposed in the back yard of a warehouse in Odivelas, Odivelas, were collected an envelope containing pubic hair, the other containing hair, a plastic bag containing a cigarette filter, among other tracks.
PJ does not help details
During the investigation the deaths of three prostitutes between July 1992 and March 1993, researchers collected the PJ has a palm print that was a wall that was bloody, but here it remains doubtful whether such a course would allow the elimination or confirmation a suspect for comparison. Despite having been found a "cigarette filter into the abdominal cavity" of one of the victims, as well as "hair on the abdominal wound," sources close to the PJ would not say whether this has the forensic DNA "Ripper of Lisbon. " Although this type of testing is done in England since 1986, the PJ did not begin to have this technology in the second half of the year 90, having at the time the Laboratory of Forensic Science of PJ received the visit of then Minister of Justice, Vera Jardim. As the crimes of the "Lisbon Ripper" are prescribed, police sources contacted by Lusa exclude the possibility of reopening the purposes of any investigation with "sanctions", but admit that when the "dust" to dissipate the case could be elucidated. During the investigation until the case prescribe, PJ questioned several witnesses, heard various experts and other prostitutes and asked to have arrived on that basis and complaints, suspected of several quarters.
Former medical student among the suspects
One of the suspects came to be a medical student (now a doctor), who worked at the National Institute of Legal Medicine (INML), which took possession of organs extracted from the corpses and whose "behavior was unusual." said the student was absent to Australia and came to realize PJ interceções their telephone conversations with her mother, but nothing came of eavesdropping substantial. Through the reports of other prostitutes to customers with bizarre behavior - because they wore masks, toupee, or other disguise were violent - there were other suspects, having reached the PJ to make "robot-portraits" of suspects. One would have between 30 and 40 years old, 1.75 meters tall and black hair, while another would have up to 35 years, from 1.70 to 1 , 75 meters tall, thin mustache and dark eyes.
More complaints
An expert in forensic psychiatry has come to admit, as appears in the record that the "Lisbon Ripper" could very well be a "repressed homosexuality with impotence problems" that would react with "violence" to a "more jocular comment of the prostitute" . The judicial authorities also received a letter from a Portuguese emigrated in Germany, named John Aquilino Domingues, to ensure that those who knew "that the Ripper was killing the girls walked the road." The researchers also exchanged correspondence with Interpol and received the Belgian criminal record and other nationalities who could possibly have passed through Portugal. It has also drawn a profile of the "Lisbon Ripper" and the various types of "serial killer" - "visionary," "power / control" and " hedonist. " The police leaned toward the possibility of this being the "type of hedonism," in which the act of death is seen as an eroticized act, with the choice of victims to bring upon individuals "vulnerable", the interval between death (cooling emotional) to shorten progressively and show up "geographically stable" in the crimes.
http://aeiou.expresso.pt/misterio-do-adn-do-estripador-de-lisboa-continua=f692035
DNA Mystery of the "Lisbon Ripper" continues
The mystery of the DNA of the " Ripper of Lisbon "remains despite collecting hair and cigarette .
10:57 Saturday, December 3, 2011
The PJ collected in 1993, while investigating the death of one of three victims of prostitutes "Lisbon Ripper", a cigarette filter (saliva), hair and pubic hair, but has not yet officially confirmed to have the DNA of the author of the murders. The case came back to win today after the weekly edition of the "SUN" ensure that discovery, in Matosinhos, Jose Guedes, unemployed, who claims to be the "Lisbon Ripper", but complain in Germany and other crimes in California. The records the survey has already filed (the crimes prescribed), that the Agency had access Lusa, reported that in connection with the murder of Mary John, a 27-year prostitute, drug user, well exposed in the back yard of a warehouse in Odivelas, Odivelas, were collected an envelope containing pubic hair, the other containing hair, a plastic bag containing a cigarette filter, among other tracks.
PJ does not help details
During the investigation the deaths of three prostitutes between July 1992 and March 1993, researchers collected the PJ has a palm print that was a wall that was bloody, but here it remains doubtful whether such a course would allow the elimination or confirmation a suspect for comparison. Despite having been found a "cigarette filter into the abdominal cavity" of one of the victims, as well as "hair on the abdominal wound," sources close to the PJ would not say whether this has the forensic DNA "Ripper of Lisbon. " Although this type of testing is done in England since 1986, the PJ did not begin to have this technology in the second half of the year 90, having at the time the Laboratory of Forensic Science of PJ received the visit of then Minister of Justice, Vera Jardim. As the crimes of the "Lisbon Ripper" are prescribed, police sources contacted by Lusa exclude the possibility of reopening the purposes of any investigation with "sanctions", but admit that when the "dust" to dissipate the case could be elucidated. During the investigation until the case prescribe, PJ questioned several witnesses, heard various experts and other prostitutes and asked to have arrived on that basis and complaints, suspected of several quarters.
Former medical student among the suspects
One of the suspects came to be a medical student (now a doctor), who worked at the National Institute of Legal Medicine (INML), which took possession of organs extracted from the corpses and whose "behavior was unusual." said the student was absent to Australia and came to realize PJ interceções their telephone conversations with her mother, but nothing came of eavesdropping substantial. Through the reports of other prostitutes to customers with bizarre behavior - because they wore masks, toupee, or other disguise were violent - there were other suspects, having reached the PJ to make "robot-portraits" of suspects. One would have between 30 and 40 years old, 1.75 meters tall and black hair, while another would have up to 35 years, from 1.70 to 1 , 75 meters tall, thin mustache and dark eyes.
More complaints
An expert in forensic psychiatry has come to admit, as appears in the record that the "Lisbon Ripper" could very well be a "repressed homosexuality with impotence problems" that would react with "violence" to a "more jocular comment of the prostitute" . The judicial authorities also received a letter from a Portuguese emigrated in Germany, named John Aquilino Domingues, to ensure that those who knew "that the Ripper was killing the girls walked the road." The researchers also exchanged correspondence with Interpol and received the Belgian criminal record and other nationalities who could possibly have passed through Portugal. It has also drawn a profile of the "Lisbon Ripper" and the various types of "serial killer" - "visionary," "power / control" and " hedonist. " The police leaned toward the possibility of this being the "type of hedonism," in which the act of death is seen as an eroticized act, with the choice of victims to bring upon individuals "vulnerable", the interval between death (cooling emotional) to shorten progressively and show up "geographically stable" in the crimes.
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I am sure Pedro will be able to explain better than me, but there seems to be some kind of uproar going on over the man who has been named but not charged? Or am I misunderstanding?
And yet again, TVI is in hot water over leaks of some kind:
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/exclusivo-cm/estripador-de-lisboa-tvi-investiga-fuga-de-informacao
Lisbon Ripper: TVI investigates leak
Channel investigates whether production revealed to another media organization name "Lisbon Ripper '
And yet again, TVI is in hot water over leaks of some kind:
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/exclusivo-cm/estripador-de-lisboa-tvi-investiga-fuga-de-informacao
Lisbon Ripper: TVI investigates leak
Channel investigates whether production revealed to another media organization name "Lisbon Ripper '
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I think this is copy of the Whitechapel Jack the Ripper.
Pedro Silva- Slayer of scums
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Ah right, he supposedly confessed to the online Sol, but denied it in court?
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Pedro Silva wrote:I think this is copy of the Whitechapel Jack the Ripper.
It certainly sounds very similar, Pedro.
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Yes bb1, from the first moment I heard about this, immediately came to my mind: Jack the Ripper.
Pedro Silva- Slayer of scums
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It's odd, him apparently being named after all this time. But, hopefully, they have got the right person and he will be dealt with by the courts.
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How on earth has a Portuguese reality TV show got involved in this?
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/ja-conhecia-o-diario-no-casting-da-tvi
Research: Son of 'Ripper' has contradictory versions
He knew the day in the casting of TVI
Pedro Guedes Joel, son of construction worker in an interview that took to be the 'Lisbon Ripper', the CM said that the journal where his father, Jose Guedes, described the crimes was only written in the football match Portugal - Bosnia that held on November 15.
But in casting for the 'House of Secrets II' in July, the young man of 22 years, spoke of manuscripts already in existence where the 'Ripper', who is in custody for another murder in United States, reported the violent way three prostitutes were murdered in 1992 and 1993. The young man even claimed that the production of the program was through this diary that had knowledge of the secret with which he intended to run.
In casting for the reality show of TVI, Joel Peter assumes to know the 'Lisbon Ripper'. Refers was willing even later in the program to reveal your identity, showing no fear in making the complaint public. The young man in person went so far as to contact the production of the program. Went to Lisbon and its application interviews were shot up. Did not enter, because the production felt that the story was not credible.
The young CM contacted yesterday, the end of the day to confront the contradictions between the version presented to the CM yesterday and he gave in July at the casting for the program. Peter confirmed that, in 2000, read a diary written by his father, who disappeared from home. Hours earlier, had already admitted that there could be more diaries written by his father. Said even if the description of the crimes was written in small notebooks offered by the magazine 'Bravo' and belonged to a niece of the 'Ripper'.
Participation by Peter Joel Guedes the reality show was rejected because the story about his father, Jose Guedes, lacked credibility
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Have I got this right? The son of the alleged Lisbon Ripper wanted to go on the Portuguese version of Big Brother, but was turned down because they didn't believe his story?
And it yet again involves TVI, the TV channel that makes NOTW look respectable?
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/ja-conhecia-o-diario-no-casting-da-tvi
Research: Son of 'Ripper' has contradictory versions
He knew the day in the casting of TVI
Pedro Guedes Joel, son of construction worker in an interview that took to be the 'Lisbon Ripper', the CM said that the journal where his father, Jose Guedes, described the crimes was only written in the football match Portugal - Bosnia that held on November 15.
But in casting for the 'House of Secrets II' in July, the young man of 22 years, spoke of manuscripts already in existence where the 'Ripper', who is in custody for another murder in United States, reported the violent way three prostitutes were murdered in 1992 and 1993. The young man even claimed that the production of the program was through this diary that had knowledge of the secret with which he intended to run.
In casting for the reality show of TVI, Joel Peter assumes to know the 'Lisbon Ripper'. Refers was willing even later in the program to reveal your identity, showing no fear in making the complaint public. The young man in person went so far as to contact the production of the program. Went to Lisbon and its application interviews were shot up. Did not enter, because the production felt that the story was not credible.
The young CM contacted yesterday, the end of the day to confront the contradictions between the version presented to the CM yesterday and he gave in July at the casting for the program. Peter confirmed that, in 2000, read a diary written by his father, who disappeared from home. Hours earlier, had already admitted that there could be more diaries written by his father. Said even if the description of the crimes was written in small notebooks offered by the magazine 'Bravo' and belonged to a niece of the 'Ripper'.
Participation by Peter Joel Guedes the reality show was rejected because the story about his father, Jose Guedes, lacked credibility
=======================================
Have I got this right? The son of the alleged Lisbon Ripper wanted to go on the Portuguese version of Big Brother, but was turned down because they didn't believe his story?
And it yet again involves TVI, the TV channel that makes NOTW look respectable?
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I agree with you bb1. How indeed.
What I don´t understand is: if he knew all that information, why didn´t he talked first with police, instead of doing it at a talkshow casting?
I think this is the answer. Another one who wants to be famous, using a terrible crime just to be known.
What I don´t understand is: if he knew all that information, why didn´t he talked first with police, instead of doing it at a talkshow casting?
I think this is the answer. Another one who wants to be famous, using a terrible crime just to be known.
Pedro Silva- Slayer of scums
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Thanks, Pedro - I thought maybe it had come out wrong because of google, but it looks like you are right, he thought this was going to get him on TV?
bb1- Slayer of scums
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You welcome bb1, about tv, so it seems.
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