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Post  lily Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:20 am

No talent then? Got it, thanks for explaining, Bonny. biggrin
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Post  bb1 Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:23 am

She's managed to turn very little talent into a fortune, it has to be said, she certainly isn't foolish where £££££ is concerned...
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Post  lily Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:25 am

Maybe she has a good management team?
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Post  bb1 Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:30 am

ARGHHH!!! There is no escape from the woman, she has just been on an ad for some mag, in which, according to their website....

Despite already being a size 8, Jordan goes on a drastic juice diet to drop a stone in 10 days for her Marbella holiday

Thrilling! Thank you for sharing Rolling Eyes
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Post  Sabot Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:37 am

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Might have known she would want to get in on the act. Why would anyone bother hacking her phone to know about her 'sex secrets' - she is never done talking about her sex life.
Last thing anyone wants is more info about it...

Jeezuz. What a very sad lady she is. Personally, I often wonder what on earth she thinks she looks like. My stepmother would have had something to say if I had ever gone out looking like her, and I can't say that my stepmother would have been wrong.
Much as I loathed the old bag. Tally Ho.
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Post  lily Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:43 am

The celebrity culture has gone too far. Who cares about who is losing a few pounds or not. It's hardly earth shattering is it?

Of course it helps to keep people dumbed down, rather like silkcut and others?
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Post  Sabot Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:00 am

lily wrote:The celebrity culture has gone too far. Who cares about who is losing a few pounds or not. It's hardly earth shattering is it?

Of course it helps to keep people dumbed down, rather like silkcut and others?
rofl rofl rofl rofl

What are you talking about? We are talking about her shagging. Or not. Probably not.
Who in their right mind would want to shag that? You might just as well want to shag Anthony Bennett on a bad day.

Sorry, sorry. I'll get me coat.
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Post  lily Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:05 am

No, don't go, Sabot. We like your wit.

Better yet, could you imagine Bennett and Bret? Eek
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Post  bb1 Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:09 am

Unfortunately, yes Eek
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Post  Sabot Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:18 am

lily wrote:No, don't go, Sabot. We like your wit.

Better yet, could you imagine Bennett and Bret? Eek

Erm..........No.

On the other hand, this could be a very horrible possibility.

I am definitely gettin me coat. Sheesh.
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Post  lily Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:26 am

They might get their heads together and write a true romance story.
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:11 pm

Another twist to the hacking saga:

Fox News running hacking deptt?
ANI
London, July 21, 2011
First Published: 12:10 IST(21/7/2011)
Last Updated: 15:35 IST(21/7/2011)

Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News had a secret ‘black operations’ department that may have illegally hacked phone records, a former senior executive has revealed. Dan Cooper, who was the managing editor when Fox News was launched in 1996, said that a ‘brain room’ carried out ‘counter intelligence’ on the channel’s enemies from its New York headquarters.

Another former senior executive said the channel ran a spying network on staff, reading their emails and making them ‘feel they were being watched’, The Telegraph reports.

The news channel is also under fire for allegedly running a campaign to hack phone records of September 11, 2001 attack victims.

“Most people thought it was simply the research department of Fox News. I knew it also housed a counter intelligence and black ops office. So accessing phone records was easy pie,” Cooper was quoted, as saying by the paper.

“It was staffed by 15 researchers and had a guard at the door. No one working there would engage in conversation,” he added.

Another former Fox News senior executive said staff was forced to operate under conditions reminiscent of ‘Russia at the height of the Soviet era’.

Fox News has denied all the allegations terming them as ‘baseless’.

“Each of these allegations is completely false. Dan Cooper was terminated six weeks after the launch of the Fox News Channel in 1996 and has peddled these lies for the past 15 years,” a Fox News Spokesman said.
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Post  bb1 Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:20 pm

Lamplighter wrote:Another twist to the hacking saga:

Fox News running hacking deptt?
ANI
London, July 21, 2011
First Published: 12:10 IST(21/7/2011)
Last Updated: 15:35 IST(21/7/2011)

Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News had a secret ‘black operations’ department that may have illegally hacked phone records, a former senior executive has revealed. Dan Cooper, who was the managing editor when Fox News was launched in 1996, said that a ‘brain room’ carried out ‘counter intelligence’ on the channel’s enemies from its New York headquarters.

Another former senior executive said the channel ran a spying network on staff, reading their emails and making them ‘feel they were being watched’, The Telegraph reports.

The news channel is also under fire for allegedly running a campaign to hack phone records of September 11, 2001 attack victims.

“Most people thought it was simply the research department of Fox News. I knew it also housed a counter intelligence and black ops office. So accessing phone records was easy pie,” Cooper was quoted, as saying by the paper.

“It was staffed by 15 researchers and had a guard at the door. No one working there would engage in conversation,” he added.

Another former Fox News senior executive said staff was forced to operate under conditions reminiscent of ‘Russia at the height of the Soviet era’.

Fox News has denied all the allegations terming them as ‘baseless’.

“Each of these allegations is completely false. Dan Cooper was terminated six weeks after the launch of the Fox News Channel in 1996 and has peddled these lies for the past 15 years,” a Fox News Spokesman said.


Fox had a 'brain room'? I'm not believing that one biggrin

Seriously - what else do they expect with Olly North in charge biggrin
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Post  crazytony Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:57 pm

Lamplighter wrote:Another twist to the hacking saga:

Fox News running hacking deptt?
ANI
London, July 21, 2011
First Published: 12:10 IST(21/7/2011)
Last Updated: 15:35 IST(21/7/2011)

Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News had a secret ‘black operations’ department that may have illegally hacked phone records, a former senior executive has revealed. Dan Cooper, who was the managing editor when Fox News was launched in 1996, said that a ‘brain room’ carried out ‘counter intelligence’ on the channel’s enemies from its New York headquarters.

Another former senior executive said the channel ran a spying network on staff, reading their emails and making them ‘feel they were being watched’, The Telegraph reports.

The news channel is also under fire for allegedly running a campaign to hack phone records of September 11, 2001 attack victims.

“Most people thought it was simply the research department of Fox News. I knew it also housed a counter intelligence and black ops office. So accessing phone records was easy pie,” Cooper was quoted, as saying by the paper.

“It was staffed by 15 researchers and had a guard at the door. No one working there would engage in conversation,” he added.

Another former Fox News senior executive said staff was forced to operate under conditions reminiscent of ‘Russia at the height of the Soviet era’.

Fox News has denied all the allegations terming them as ‘baseless’.

“Each of these allegations is completely false. Dan Cooper was terminated six weeks after the launch of the Fox News Channel in 1996 and has peddled these lies for the past 15 years,” a Fox News Spokesman said.
It is indeed Bullshet. And, they are correct; Cooper twitters to anyone who will listen to his black ops theory, not many did. I thought he had shut up a long time ago; apparently not.

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Post  bb1 Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:23 pm

I've noticed something interesting about the pitchforkers in the course of this, Tony - they seem afflicted by a strange kind of word-blindness.

They never seem to see words such as

alleged
may
sources claim
could be
possibly
it is said


One of them reading the above will interpret that as a statement of fact; the concept of evidence and proof is totally alien to them.
As is context.
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I just knew this was going to involve Princess Di sooner or later...
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Post  lily Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:07 pm

You were so right, Bonny. thumbsup
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Post  lily Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:09 pm

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2011/07/21/lucian-freud-obit.html

I reckon this will also get a mention by the Bennetts somehow......
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Post  bb1 Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:24 am

An excellent piece by one of Anna's co-bloggers putting the whole business in perspective:

http://www.annaraccoon.com/reflections/the-writing-is-on-the-mall/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AnnaRaccoon+%28Anna+Raccoon%29

Hacking the phone of politicos and celebs is naughty but causes me no loss of sleep. It may be a criminal offence, but frankly I would rather our police were out on the streets catching burglars. I take on board the logical inconsistency, but hacking the e-mails of a murdered teenager or a fallen soldier is a serious matter, and requires a rigorous police investigation to establish two issues: who did it, and who authorised it, and to bring a prosecution. It does not require circuses, roving inquiries and MP’s grandstanding and exacting political revenge.

Precisely.
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Post  Lamplighter Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:55 am

BBC UK News:

22 July 2011 Last updated at 09:39 GMT

Labour MP Tom Watson to ask police to investigate James Murdoch

Labour MP Tom Watson says he will ask the police to investigate evidence given by News International chairman James Murdoch after it was called into question by two former executives.

Mr Murdoch told the culture committee he had not been "aware" of an email suggesting the practice went wider than a "rogue" News of the World reporter.

But ex-NoW editor Colin Myler and legal manager Tom Crone said they told him.

Mr Murdoch later said he "stands by his testimony" to the committee on Tuesday.

Mr Watson said he was going to formally bring it to the attention of Deputy Assistant Commissioner Sue Akers, who is leading Operating Weeting, the investigation into phone hacking.

He told the BBC: "This is the most significant moment of two years of investigation into phone hacking."

At the committee hearing on Tuesday, Labour's Tom Watson asked Mr Murdoch: "When you signed off the Taylor payment, did you see or were you made aware of the full email suggesting hacking was more widespread than had been admitted."

Mr Murdoch replied: "No, I was not aware of that at the time".

He went on: "There was every reason to settle the case, given the likelihood of losing the case and given the damages - we had received counsel - that would be levied."

In their statement issued on Thursday Mr Myler and Crone said: "Just by way of clarification relating to Tuesday's CMS select committee hearing, we would like to point out that James Murdoch's recollection of what he was told when agreeing to settle the Gordon Taylor litigation was mistaken.

"In fact, we did inform him of the 'for Neville' email which had been produced to us by Gordon Taylor's lawyers."

In a statement issued by News Corporation, Mr Murdoch said: "I stand by my testimony to the select committee."

Meanwhile, the BBC has learned the FBI plans to contact actor Jude Law following claims his mobile phone was hacked during a visit to the US.

It is alleged a story published by the News of the World in 2003 was based on information obtained from his voicemail which, if proved, could lead to charges in the US because his phone would have been operating on a US network. News International denies the claims.
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Post  Chicane Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:54 pm

Sky News

MP To Refer James Murdoch Evidence To Police

Evidence James Murdoch gave on the phone-hacking scandal to a Commons committee is to be referred to the police, a Labour MP has said.

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James Murdoch stands by the evidence he gave to MPs

Tom Watson said he would be contacting Deputy Assistant Commissioner Sue Akers - who is leading the investigation - regarding the evidence Mr Murdoch gave to the Commons Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee on Tuesday.

Prime Minister David Cameron has added his voice to the criticism of Mr Murdoch, saying he "clearly" had questions to answer in Parliament.

"Clearly News International has got some big issues to deal with and a mess to clear up," he added.

"And clearly News International has got some big issues to deal with and a mess to clear up."

Mr Murdoch told MPs that he was "not aware" of an email suggesting the practice was not limited to one reporter.

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Colin Myler poses with the News Of The World's final edition

But the News Of The World's (NOTW) former editor and chief lawyer said they had informed the chairman of News International - which published the now-defunct tabloid - about the email.

Colin Myler, who edited the paper until it was closed, and legal manager Tom Crone, have released a statement saying Mr Murdoch was "mistaken".

However, the son of Rupert Murdoch has said he stands by his evidence.

The accusations stem from a settlement paid to Professional Footballers' Association chief executive Gordon Taylor in 2008, reportedly to the sum of £700,000, after he brought a damages claim against the NOTW.

At the committee hearing, MP Tom Watson asked James Murdoch: "When you signed off the Taylor payment, did you see or were you made aware of the full Neville email, the transcript of the hacked voicemail messages?"

He replied: "No, I was not aware of that at the time."

In their statement, Mr Myler and Mr Crone said: "Just by way of clarification relating to Tuesday's CMS Select Committee hearing, we would like to point out that James Murdoch's recollection of what he was told when agreeing to settle the Gordon Taylor litigation was mistaken.

"In fact, we did inform him of the 'for Neville' email which had been produced to us by Gordon Taylor's lawyers."

John Whittingdale, the Conservative MP and chairman of the committee, told Sky News Mr Murdoch would be asked to clarify his evidence over the discrepancy.

Mr Whittingdale said Mr Murdoch had already agreed to write to the committee on issues he had been unable to address at the hearing.

However, the committee will not be recalled on the matter, Mr Whittingdale said.

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Chris Bryant has called for Rupert and James Murdoch to be suspended

In a further development, MP Chris Bryant, who has been at the forefront of calls for an investigation, has written to News Corporation's non-executive directors to request the suspension of Rupert and James Murdoch.

In an email, he said: "Rupert Murdoch refused to accept any responsibility for what went on at the News of the World and relied in his defence on the fact that the paper represented just one per cent of the company's business.

"However, this in no way excuses the complete failure to tackle the original criminality at the company and the lackadaisical approach to such matters would suggest that there is no proper corporate governance within the company."

Referring to James' evidence, he said his answer either represented "really bad legal advice" or was "a plain lie".

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Jude Law claims his phone was hacked at JFK airport

Further phone hacking developments:

:: Australia's competition watchdog has delivered a fresh blow to Rupert Murdoch's media empire, expressing concern at a bid by his cable television operation to buy out a rival.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission said the cable deal would create a "near monopoly".

:: Sky sources have revealed that a former NOTW executive - understood to be Matt Nixson, former features editor of The Sun - has been sacked by The Sun after serious allegations of wrongdoing relating to his time at the Sunday title.

:: The FBI are also reportedly planning to contact actor Jude Law after he claimed his mobile phone was hacked into while he was at JFK airport.

The allegations reportedly stem from a story published in the News Of The World in 2003, which was apparently based on information that could only have been obtained from Law's voicemail.

The claims could mean News Corp face charges in the US, because Law would have been using an American mobile network.


Well, not so difficult to predict an arrest coming up for James Murdoch.....but what about Rupert...??

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Post  Sabot Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:03 pm

bb1 wrote:I've noticed something interesting about the pitchforkers in the course of this, Tony - they seem afflicted by a strange kind of word-blindness.

They never seem to see words such as

alleged
may
sources claim
could be
possibly
it is said


One of them reading the above will interpret that as a statement of fact; the concept of evidence and proof is totally alien to them.
As is context.

There was a lot of this about in the early days of The Mirror Forum. It even took me a minute or ten to suss it out because a lot of it was barely bordering on the Alleged, or even Sources. You really had to read it slowly and carefully to know that it was not reliable.

And besides that, who would have believed that the Newspapers could be so perfidious. Or The PJ for that matter. People in my world just didn't behave like that. And so I actually believed some of it. And had a few things to say that I am now mortally ashamed of.

After that it all became Forum Truths for those who truly wish to spread hate and spite. Although most of them no longer actually think that The McCanns were involved. This is the real sickness. They spread this shite because they think it is fun.
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Post  Lamplighter Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:21 pm

They spread this shite because they think it is fun.
I think that for some of them it's the 'herd factor', follow the leader is the norm. And possibly fear - or stalking, ridicule, becoming the butt of obscene comments, so they toe the line and keep their heads down. I am sure that if just a few stood up and made a statement that they were not going to continue as they have been more would follow. But it's getting those first few to be brave. LL
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Post  Sabot Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:54 pm

Lamplighter wrote:
They spread this shite because they think it is fun.
I think that for some of them it's the 'herd factor', follow the leader is the norm. And possibly fear - or stalking, ridicule, becoming the butt of obscene comments, so they toe the line and keep their heads down. I am sure that if just a few stood up and made a statement that they were not going to continue as they have been more would follow. But it's getting those first few to be brave. LL

If only I believed that, LL.

Yes I do think that some of them follow the leaders, but they have to have diseased brains to have the propensity to believe this shit in the first place, let alone write about it.
I don't ever even think like this out of the top of my head.
The best I can do is shock and horror if I find that there is some truth in what has been said. Which there mostly isn't.

They are just bloody awful. Wallowing in a welter of sick horror, and thoroughly enjoying it. You can almost smell the decomposition of their brains. They are walking corpses.
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Post  Lamplighter Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:32 pm

I HAVE to believe it, sabot, I just can't write people off without at least having some hope they will come to their senses. I think maybe they can't come to terms with living life in a sensible manner; they are thwarted by something or other; I believe in hope, you see, if one cannot hope then I see no reason in continuing on. I know many of them are past saving, but I still hope that just a few can be recalled back to being human. Call me foolish but I will go on seeing something there that can be redeemed, however small that hope may be. LL
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