The McCann case according to Pat brown

Yes, Bonny, I do remember what Bren did, not least to the Sites that we set up in trying to bridge the gap. Silly us, ha ha. And she is never going to be my best friend.
I am just interested, academically, and I don't have the time to despise her. What would be the point?
She says that she is sorry, but she doesn't actually say for what, and while she continues to belabour the neglect issue, then I am not convinced. I require total capitulation, but then I always was a nasty bitch when pushed too far. Whether or not she gives me what I want is really of no great importance.

Actually, I think she got carried away on the fame and glory of a very boring life. But oh my goodness me, did we not ever learn a thing or two. Nothing is safe on The Internet.

Four years ago I was a very naive and mostly kind person, and I still am to some extent. But I didn't half learn how to fight back.

There are people out there who for whatever reason will never accept that they are wrong. Bren at least seems to be trying.

Sabot, I simply do not believe this epiphany. I suspect Bren ran out of people to fight with, had some personal health issues, decided she doesn't like not being the centre of attraction, and re-invented herself.

She isn't going to convert anyone; most of her former allies think she has either been bribed or is just looking for attention.

Me? I am not going to betray all her victims, many of whom are our members, past and present - remember Mick and Gran? I do. I am not going to betray our Tony, whom she was caught stalking. I am most certainly NOT going to betray MsMarbles, who was targetted by Bren and her foul sidekick jjp -

By turning around and saying, Oh bless, Bren didn't really mean all that nasty stuff when she outed your families; she didn't really mean to try to get you sacked from your jobs; she didn't really mean you to have to get police protection for your children. She was just a bit confizzled, cos she thought the McCanns DONE IT.

If she wants forgiven, she can speak to the Big Guy upstairs, that's His department, not mine.

Yes, Bonny. I remember Mick and Gran. What a disgrace that was.

But you see, I don't actually care anymore. The McCanns are fine, in so far as it is possible. The rest is by the by when I have nothing better to do

But I am interested in how Bren thinks she is going to talk her way out of this. An Abductor stole that child, and what The McCanns did or didn't do is entirely irrelevant.

PS. Forums are addictive. How you use them is entirely up to you.

It is posted on PFA2...unfortunately in the "Madeleine according to PB". I've asked mod/admin to move it to a new topic in the Madeleine Case section.

Although sincere, but more for purely tactical reasons, I complimented Bren for her courage with this u-turn, because I hope others will follow suit, it's important.
I was a member of 3a for 3 days when Bonny banned me, not Bren.
Bren has never wronged me personally, it's no resentment from such a feeling, which makes my blood boil.
It's what she has done to Madeleine, I can not forgive her.
Contact with Bonny and Janz (where is Janz..btw) learned me what Bren did behind the screens of 3a and that made the picture complete never ever to trust Bren,
never mind what she does well in the Madeleine case now.
Maybe one day, when I am strong enough, I can look at her differently.

I was never a member of the 3A' but that didn't stop Brenda stalking me.
Also, the way she attacked the poor woman who had a sick child; all because she dared to disagree with, the Bren, sickened me for life.

Chicane wrote:It is posted on PFA2...unfortunately in the "Madeleine according to PB". I've asked mod/admin to move it to a new topic in the Madeleine Case section.

Although sincere, but more for purely tactical reasons, I complimented Bren for her courage with this u-turn, because I hope others will follow suit, it's important.
I was a member of 3a for 3 days when Bonny banned me, not Bren.
Bren has never wronged me personally, it's no resentment from such a feeling, which makes my blood boil.
It's what she has done to Madeleine, I can not forgive her.
Contact with Bonny and Janz (where is Janz..btw) learned me what Bren did behind the screens of 3a and that made the picture complete never ever to trust Bren,
never mind what she does well in the Madeleine case now.
Maybe one day, when I am strong enough, I can look at her differently.

Don't worry about it, Love. It isn't very important. People are still looking out for Madeleine.

The last I knew, Janz was taken up with serious family matters, Chicane, and she simply could not be doing with internet nonsense any more.

MsMarbles and I are in a different position from most, as we fled 3a as the scale of the corruption and deceit, and Bren's sheer cruelty, became more and more apparent.
We were both seeing case-related matters differently by then, anyway, but would probably have just drifted away if it hadn't been for Bren's vile conduct. Instead, we hung on as long as we could and took a few goodies with us.

The last thing I want, or anyone needs, is for all this to be dug up again after all this time, but there is no way I am going to sit here and coo at Bren. Not once in all this time have I seen any sign from her that she has actually changed; I suspect change may have been forced on her.

This is being discussed in the open on us; you can be sure it is being discussed in private on other sites. Great! Another day wasted talking about Bren!

Right from the start, she has turned on every single person who has had dealings with her, from Nbrado onwards, right up to her erstwhile allies on the hate sites. Oh, apart from jjp, of course.

This is nothing to do with 'opinions', it never was for Bren. IMO, it has always been some kind of power trip.

No-one who has been on the receiving end of that very special treatment is going to believe, forgive, or forget, Chicane. How can you trust a compulsive liar who claims to have stopped telling lies?

It's up to individuals how they regard this, but for God's sake, be on your guard at all times when you are dealing with her. I curse the day I ever heard her name, and would be perfectly happy if I never heard it again.

PS - sorry for banning you

Moving on, did you hear the one about?

Tallulah's melt-down is coming along nicely, Tony...



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crazytony wrote:Moving on, did you hear the one about?

What ever you do, don't sell that Cow.

WOMEN WHO KNOW THEIR PLACE

Barbara Walters, of 20/20, did a story on gender roles in Kabul ,
Afghanistan , several years before the Afghan conflict.

She noted that women customarily walked five paces behind their husbands.

She recently returned to Kabul and observed that women still walk behind
their husbands. Despite the overthrow of the oppressive Taliban regime, the women now seem happy to maintain the old custom.

Ms Walters approached one of the Afghani women and asked, 'Why do you now
seem happy with an old custom that you once tried so desperately to change?'

The woman looked Ms Walters straight in the eyes, and without hesitation
said, “Land mines.”


Moral of the story is (no matter what language you speak or where you go):

BEHIND EVERY MAN, THERE'S A SMART WOMAN

bb1 wrote:Tallulah's melt-down is coming along nicely, Tony...



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He, is making a complete and utter ass of himself, Bonny.
Bret is the one screaming the foul diatribe across the Internet at the woman. She is trying to defend herself. However, it has been noted.

Thank you, tony, for that piece re the woman bret has been stalking for all this time. I only found her by chance, when I was researching some of bret's books as reviewed by sensible people. I know she reads dbisagod as she mentioned it in one of her blog posts - seems he accused her of having started it, and his wild and totally unfounded accusations that she was responsible for the closing down of his blogs really made me very angry. I wonder if she reads your blog, I hope so. LL

Although he's obviously profoundly mentally ill, that doesn't excuse what he is doing to other people. Why does his wife allow him to do what he does? She has to know about him.....

lily wrote:Although he's obviously profoundly mentally ill, that doesn't excuse what he is doing to other people. Why does his wife allow him to do what he does? She has to know about him.....

It is pure jealousy in my opinion.
She has written a true account of Rudolph Valentino; Bret has not.
She took years to research her book. Bret wrote his in ten minutes.

I bet her book doesn't include sex with dairy products....

crazytony wrote:

lily wrote:Although he's obviously profoundly mentally ill, that doesn't excuse what he is doing to other people. Why does his wife allow him to do what he does? She has to know about him.....

It is pure jealousy in my opinion.
She has written a true account of Rudolph Valentino; Bret has not.
She took years to research her book. Bret wrote his in ten minutes.

Like his hatred of Marian Riva because she DARED to write a bio of her own mother! Can you imagine Dietrich's attitude to her 'dear, intimate friend' if she had ever seen his remark about better she drown Maria at birth? He has also had a run-in with Errol Flynn's daughter re the dreadful book he wrote. The man is evil; a nasty crawling excuse for a human being. LL

Errol Flynn's daughter was on the verge of taking him to court. Whilst it may be true you can't libel the dead; you can harass and distress the living.

It baffles me that his new fans cannot see what a vile specimen he is; they can see what he has been spewing on his blogs, they can see he has been proven to be a complete liar.

bb1 wrote:It baffles me that his new fans cannot see what a vile specimen he is; they can see what he has been spewing on his blogs, they can see he has been proven to be a complete liar.

Bonny, they only see what they want to see. So I say let them get on with it. He is just the right leader for a bunch of despots. Only trouble is, they are all tarred with his brush.

Bonnie, it's very simple - he's a listed author, his books are on bookshop shelves - err, actually most of them are in the remainder bins, and therefore he is a celebrity. Whereas you and me, and normal people, are not fazed by stardust, they are. He speaks with the authority of a man of letters - four-lettered words to be exact! LL

Why does he have to be such a hate filled idiot, though?

bb1 wrote:I bet her book doesn't include sex with dairy products....

I think he is a fan of hardcore porn movies myself.

If he had written any of the deranged things he has about a living person, he would have found himself overwhelmed in legal action. For starters, movie studios would have eaten him alive and that's before you get to the actual person involved.

The photo about the first press conference May 4th 2007, shows the distress, anguish, desperation, felt by the McCanns.

I remember Mrs. McCann´s word, both in our countries languages:

"Please return our little child back / Por favor devolva nossa menina".

I'd forgotten that, Pedro. Kate actually did repeat it in Portuguese.