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Post  bb1 Sat May 18, 2013 10:03 pm

Only the cover so far:

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Post  bb1 Sat May 18, 2013 10:27 pm

What on earth....?

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Post  bb1 Sat May 18, 2013 10:42 pm

Mail:

Scotland Yard hunt six British cleaners driving a white van in search for missing Maddie
British cleaners and Portuguese manual workers are among new suspects
Many suspects worked at the complex where the three-year-old was staying
Scotland Yard have conducted a review of the Portuguese inquiry
Sources said ‘low-level’ workers have become the focus of interest.
By IAN GALLAGHER AND RUSSELL MYERS
PUBLISHED: 22:02, 18 May 2013 | UPDATED: 22:02, 18 May 2013

British cleaners and Portuguese manual workers are among new suspects in the Madeleine McCann investigation, The Mail on Sunday has learned.
Scotland Yard identified what they describe as ‘people of interest’ during a review of the Portuguese inquiry into the three-year-old’s disappearance in May, 2007.
The suspects are thought to number 12 – not 20 as has been reported – and include a number of British cleaners who were working near the apartment complex where Madeleine, twin siblings Sean and Amelie and parents Gerry and Kate were staying.

Sources said ‘low-level’ workers – handymen, cleaners and gardeners – have become the focus of interest. Some are thought to have been employed by the Ocean Club complex on a casual basis and may have already been interviewed.

Police are said to be keen to trace six British cleaners who were working in Praia da Luz when Madeleine vanished and who didn’t appear in the Portuguese files.
They are said to have used a white van and went from apartment to apartment offering their services, chiefly concentrating on expats.

A source said: ‘There is quite a culture of people drifting from door to door offering services from everything from your garden to your roof or windows.’
As well as the manual workers there are a number of more obvious suspects who already appear in the Portuguese files but who British police feel haven’t been ‘bottomed out’ properly and therefore warrant further investigation.
‘There are a lot of people who could be explored further, if only to be eliminated,’ said Detective Chief Superintendent Hamish Campbell, head of Scotland Yard’s Homicide and Serious Crime Command.
However officers face having to break down Portuguese resistance to re-opening the inquiry. Officials in Lisbon say they can reopen the case only if there is new evidence. But it has been claimed that the new leads could, if properly explored, result in new evidence and possibly solve the Madeleine mystery.
Detectives examining the Portuguese files were alarmed that the original inquiry had not traced and interviewed all the staff and holidaymakers who were at the Ocean Club when Madeleine went missing.
Last year the Met said that it had identified 195 fresh leads that should have been investigated either by conducting further witness interviews, eliminating suspects or carrying out forensic tests that were missing from the 2007 inquiry.
Officers found unexplained gaps in the investigation timeline and that there had been a complete lack of forensic examination of mobile phone activity in the area on the night Madeleine disappeared.

Mr Campbell said it was ‘perfectly probable’ that information which could identify the suspect responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance was already in the Portuguese files.
He reiterated a claim that Madeleine could still be alive. He said: ‘You only have to look at the case in Cleveland, Ohio, and the European cases. Of course there is a possibility she is alive. But the key is to investigate the case and, alive or dead, we should be able to try and discern what happened.’
The McCanns, of Rothley, Leicestershire, have been kept closely informed of Scotland Yard’s review – codenamed Operation Grange – over the past two years.
A spokesman for the couple said: ‘They have been encouraged from the moment the review started and are now greatly encouraged that police have drawn up a short list of people who they believe are of interest to the inquiry.’



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326738/Scotland-Yard-hunt-British-cleaners-driving-white-van-search-missing-Maddie.html#ixzz2Th89VItx
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OK, that wasn't TOO stupid, but I hope we are not in for another round of bullsh*t from sources as the media frantically try to fill in gaps with disinformation.
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Post  Pedro Silva Sat May 18, 2013 10:45 pm

for me, more important than to know the motive behind this abduction, is to see Madeleine McCann returns safe and sound to her home.
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Post  Pedro Silva Sat May 18, 2013 10:46 pm

about the cleaners, waiting for more updates.
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Post  bb1 Sat May 18, 2013 10:52 pm

I'll post the Express story if it comes online at a reasonable hour, Pedro, but I am taking it with a pinch of salt. The very last thing needed just now is tabloids making up more nonsense.
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Post  bb1 Sat May 18, 2013 10:55 pm

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1593.0

poses the question:

Is Sky's Martin Brunt a complete tit?

I vote YES. Rolling Eyes
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Post  Pedro Silva Sat May 18, 2013 10:58 pm

thank you bb1, I agree with you.
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Post  Lamplighter Sun May 19, 2013 7:11 am

I remember discussing the summer workers and the staff with someone on sky and we agreed that there had been a total cock up as the PJ never actually seemed to have found the staff that had left or interviewing them. I have always thought that Madeleine knew the person who took her from that room. Just my personal opinion, you understand, no evidence therefore no statement of fact. LL


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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 11:28 am

Express nonsense - and I am glad I didn't bother either staying up late or logging on early for this hodgepodge of it is believed and sources said:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/400796/Mystery-couple-seen-going-into-McCanns-flat-on-night-before-sobbing-Madeleine-disappeared

Mystery couple seen going into McCanns’ flat on night before sobbing Madeleine disappeared

SCOTLAND YARD detectives are trying to find a middle-aged couple said to have entered Madeleine McCann’s holiday apartment to comfort her because she was crying, we can reveal today.

By: James MurrayPublished: Sun, May 19, 2013


It is believed they entered the bedroom on May 2, 2007, the evening before Madeleine disappeared from the Ocean Club at Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve.

The tip-off was given by two key witnesses who were reinterviewed as part of the Yard’s two-year, £4.5million investigation.

It is already known that Pamela Fenn, who lived directly above apartment 5a, heard a child, believed to be Madeleine, crying for about an hour on the evening of May 2.

She was so concerned she rang a friend in the village to ask what to do and considered ringing Portugal’s Policia Judiciaria.

At the time, Madeleine’s mother Kate and father Gerry were dining with friends at a tapas bar some 50 yards from the apartment.

A source said: “Police were astonished when this new information came to light. Officers spoke to other key witnesses to discover more about the middle-aged couple.

“Apparently they were concerned about the crying and went to see if they could comfort the girl.”

Pamela Fenn has since died, so police have been speaking to other people who were staying in the same apartments.

Our revelation comes as Scotland Yard detectives say there are potentially 20 suspects they want to speak to. Retiring Detective Chief Superintendent Hamish Campbell, head of the Yard’s Homicide and Serious Crime Command, urged Portuguese authorities to investigate the new leads.

He said: “There are a lot of people of interest. There are people who could be properly explored further, if only to be eliminated.”

Scotland Yard officers have been interviewing witnesses here for months, although the public prosecutor in Portugal has decided against reopening the investigation.

Despite claims of a “Mexican stand off” between Portuguese police and Yard officers, the Sunday Express understands there is in fact very good co-operation between both squads.

Pedro de Carmo, deputy national leader of the PJ, said yesterday: “We still co-operate with their team. There are good communications.”

Portuguese officers are very impressed with the diligence of the Met investigation and have been impressed with their interviews with witnesses in Britain.

We can confirm that a couple staying in the same block as apartment 5a were interviewed last February.

They were in their apartment on the night Madeleine vanished. Afterwards they wrote an account of what they saw but were never formally interviewed by Portuguese detectives.

They had been at a restaurant earlier in the evening and left at about 9pm.

On their way home they walked directly past the entrance to the Ocean Club pool, where the “Tapas 7” (the name given to the friends eating with the McCanns on the night Madeleine disappeared) were enjoying the meal with Kate and Gerry.

They walked past apartment 5a but noticed nothing untoward. The woman said in her statement: “I stood on the balcony at about 9.15 with a whisky.

“I saw people eating at the tapas bar and children in the play area. We went to bed at 10pm-ish. We were woken up by our bell ringing at 11.30pm. It was a friend of the McCanns, saying that a little girl had been abducted. The friend asked if we had a computer so they could get the media involved in the search.

“Two police were on the corner of our block, one lady said that off-duty police had come and were searching. We did see single men on mobiles while we were out who could have been police.

The couple took part in the search for Madeleine and then returned to their apartment.

The woman’s statement continues: “We walked back up towards our apartment, a group had gathered on the corner. The McCanns were in bits, he was crying on the shoulder of a friend. She was screaming: ‘The f*****g bastards have taken her’. Finally, at around 4am, we said: ‘Is it OK if we go to bed?’ We directed this comment towards a man in a white shirt and jeans, who seemed to be authoritative.”

At the couple’s home here, two Yard officers questioned them separately for three hours and got them to sign lengthy statements. They further interviewed them this year to double check their information.

The couple are key because at precisely 9.15pm on May 3, Jane Tanner, a friend of the McCanns, said she left the tapas bar and walked past Gerry, who was talking to holidaymaker Jez Wilkins outside apartment 5a.

Neither Gerry nor Kate said they saw Jane. She reported that she had seen a man carrying a child, believed to be Madeleine, walking across the top of the road.

At the time she had not realised the significance. Officers asked the couple if they saw Jane, Gerry or Jez but they insist they did not.

The Sunday Express has visited the couple’s holiday apartment, which looks over the tapas bar. From its balcony you can see directly into the garden of apartment 5a.

The woman said: “We have one of the best views of the whole block. We are sure of the timings. If we had seen anyone we would have remembered.

“We will continue to answer the Yard’s questions. We have given our fingerprints and DNA. We were happy to assist. They should be left to get on with their inquiries.”


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And that last line is the only sensible thing said in the entire piece.

It's like going back to the worst excesses of 2007. Rolling Eyes

Anyone who swallows bullsh*t like this down shouldn't be allowed to cross busy roads by themselves.
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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 11:37 am

It would have been a good idea for James Murray to have checked the police files before putting his name to this bullsh*t from sources.

1. It is a matter of record that the late Mrs Fenn supposedly heard crying on the 1st, not the 2nd.

2. It is a matter of record that Rachel Oldfield was in the apartment next door to 5a all evening on the 2nd and heard NOTHING of all this drama through the somewhat flimsy walls.

Does the Express never, ever learn? Rolling Eyes
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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 11:48 am

Less than surprising to see that the braindead hounders, forkers and general McCann-hating lowlife have swallowed down this bolleaux whole and begged for more.

Them being such great armchair defectives, they might be better thinking about some of the GENUINE information that's come out from Scotland Yard.

Things like shaky alibis, discrepancies involving cellphones - and even I can see an absolute whopper in a couple of statements. No, it doesn't involve the McCanns or their friends, and it is indeed surprising it doesn't seem to have been followed up.

Oh, and forensics from places where Madeleine may have been hidden after she was abducted - which doesn't involve nonsense about barns and Aztec towels.

It's much simpler than that.
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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 11:50 am

Ordinisrubricrucis ‏@ordinisrubri 2m
Local Portuguese Police have put in a direction to attorney requesting Madeleine #McCann inquiry be reopened following new evidence


I hope that's true and not more bullsh*t from sources.
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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 11:57 am

A somewhat less insane piece:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/kidnapper-spied-madeleine-mccann-police-1897649

By Justin Penrose, Alex Wellman
Is this where kidnapper spied on Madeleine McCann? Police narrow search to FOUR apartment blocks
19 May 2013 01:00
A British property owner in the resort of Praia Da Luz said the police had pinpointed “persons of interest” to the blocks

British police probing Madeleine McCann’s disappearance now believe her kidnapper was staying in a holiday flat near the family.

Scotland Yard detectives, who believe the youngster may still be alive, have narrowed their search to FOUR apartment blocks where the family were on holiday when the youngster went missing.

They are trying to work out who was in them at the time in 2007.

A British property owner in the Portuguese resort of Praia Da Luz told the Sunday Mirror police had pinpointed “persons of interest” to the blocks.

He said officers had told him some properties had been sub-let at the time WITHOUT the ­owners’ knowledge.

The owner said police had spoken to him twice about the Ocean Club apartment blocks, which include the one where Madeleine was snatched.

“The officer who spoke to me blurted out the blocks ....five, six, two and four, in that order. I was amazed,” said the Brit.

“Every one of the properties they are interested in is right next door to, or on top of the one where the little girl went missing.

“The officer said the ­people of interest were ­located in one of those blocks at the time.

“Knowing the resort layout, anyone in one of those flats could have looked down on that family.

"The McCanns were in the very lowest one on the corner.”

The British owner showed us a letter from the Met Police’s Operation Grange unit ­re-investigating Madeleine’s ­disappearance.

He spoke as it emerged detectives have 20 potential suspects.

The four blocks contain 59 holiday flats, including flat 5A, which Kate and Gerry McCann were renting.

Officers are believed to have discounted several of the remaining 58 apartments after contacting owners and occupiers.

Met Det Chief Supt Hamish Campbell said on Friday he believed Madeleine, who would now be 10, could still be alive.

And Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the McCanns, said yesterday: “Kate and Gerry continue to be encouraged by the work of Operation Grange.”

So easy to spy on the McCanns
The four blocks at the heart of the Scotland Yard investigation would be an ­ideal location for an abductor to snatch Madeleine ­McCann.

Vantage points from some apartments give clear views of key areas at the centre of the police probe.

A patio window and the front door of the apartment where Madeleine slept with her brother and sister can be watched from many of them.

Crucially, there are also views of the tapas bar where her parents were dining with friends the night she ­vanished, along with the route they took to check on their children.

Yesterday the Sunday Mirror visited the four blocks in Praia da Luz and it was clear why detectives are focusing on the properties.

The McCanns were staying in Apartment 5A of Block 5.

Its front door is on the car park side of the block, so a kidnapper could be fleeing by car along the Algarve’s main highway within minutes of a kidnap.

In the days before Madeleine went missing, anybody with access to certain apartments could easily watch her family’s every movement without ­looking suspicious.

Next door to Block 5 is Block 4, which provides similar views.

Detectives are also focusing on Block 6, which is over the road from the other two blocks.

The building provides a direct view of Madeleine’s apartment, the pathway behind the apartment, the rear patio doors, the Tapas bar entrance and the key roads out of the resort.

Finally police are also focusing on a fourth building, Block 2, which overlooks the whole area.

One police theory is that an abductor spied on the family from the moment they arrived.

Gerry ­McCann has said he believes they were being watched.

Met detectives are keen to trace everyone with ­access to flats there at the time of her disappearance but they have been hampered by the fact that many are sublet.

There was an eerie silence outside Apartment 5A yesterday and the shutters were firmly closed.

The yard was neat and tidy but without any activity inside it felt frozen in time, keeping the secrets of Madeleine’s fate locked behind the large wooden front door.

There were only a handful of tourists in the resort which, while still open for business, is clearly tainted for ever by the events in 2007.

Holidaymaker Jola Wrzesinska, 52, of London, is staying directly above Apartment 5A and said she woke in a panic a few days ago after she thought she could hear noises downstairs.

She said: “I was having a nightmare about Madeleine and I was convinced I could hear somebody downstairs, it was horrible.

"I realised it was only a bad dream but it shows that our thoughts are always with what ­happened to that poor little girl.”




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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 12:16 pm


Neither Gerry nor Kate said they saw Jane.

Well, there's a simple explanation for that.

KATE MCCANN WASN'T THERE. Couldn't Murray even be bothered to check his own copy, never mind the police files.

Seriously, that has to be one of the worst pieces of non-reporting anyone has seen for many a long day.

Or at least since Murray fell for the 'Brazil' hoax, widely suspected of being the work of one D. Levy.
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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 12:30 pm

Express garbage being mocked here:

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post170533.html?sid=55591417219802b8c3fd142f54aec865#p170533

Actually, I wouldn't put Murray in the same class as Brunt.

I'd put him in the same class as Coldwater.
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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 12:46 pm

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id52.html

"We were woken up at half past eleven at night by one of the friends of the McCanns to say 'a little girl' had 'been abducted'; those... those were the words used", 14 August 2007


Search for Maddie BBC - Stoke and Staffordshire

14 August 2007 - Susan Moyes owns an apartment two floors above the one the McCanns stayed in.


Shame on Murray for inventing such rubbish. mad
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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 12:51 pm

Oh, and well done, forkers, hounders, and general McCann-hating lowlife. You've fallen for bullsh*t from sources yet again.

Still, none of them actually care whether garbage is true or not, as long as it gives them hope.
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Post  Sabot Sun May 19, 2013 1:06 pm


So that's it, is it? A genuine interview taken and distorted almost out of all recognition.
That is a disgrace.
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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 1:12 pm

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How to spot a #mccann hater - they will be expressing outrage at Kate using swear words to describe Madeleine's abductor.


And the forker who started the 'outrage' is the one who used the 'F' word to describe Madeleine....

Anyway, not one of the McCann-haters has bothered to do the slightest bit of checking on the veracity of this sh*te. So what they have to say about incidents that didn't occur to begin with doesn't really matter, does it?
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Post  Sabot Sun May 19, 2013 1:19 pm


Scotland Yard do seem to have narrowed things down somewhat. 59 Appartments, Local Workers and a bunch of Cleaners. Much closer than The PJ ever got.
And all of this stuff has always been available.
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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 1:23 pm

Along with dodgy alibis and cellphone inconsistencies. Wink

Which don't involve the McCanns or their friends.
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Post  Sabot Sun May 19, 2013 1:39 pm


So Potty Mouth Carly calls the kettle black, when it is patently obvious that this incident never happened and is in no way mentioned in the statement from which the article has been lifted.
Nasty little beast.
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Post  bb1 Sun May 19, 2013 1:56 pm

Hypocrites, aren't they? Just look at one of the leading haters in action - only the link, as it's disgusting:

https://twitter.com/SafariSara/status/336100950135681025/photo/1

They should have spent less time on faux-outrage, and more time on fact-checking. Though that never was their strong point.
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Post  Sabot Sun May 19, 2013 1:59 pm

Amazing. The loons are quite happy to believe that a pair of middled aged strangers went into the appartment to comfort Madeleine and didn't tell anyone, but won't have it that an abductor went in a stole her.
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