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Post  Lamplighter Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:50 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-30223348

Lord Smith announced the recommendations of his commission in Edinburgh (to see this you need to access the link above).

The Scottish Parliament should have the power to set income tax rates and bands, the body on strengthening devolution has concluded.

The Smith Commission also said a share of VAT should be assigned to the parliament, and Air Passenger Duty fully devolved.

The commission was set up by Prime Minister David Cameron in the wake of the vote against Scottish independence.

Its findings will form the basis of legislation on more Scottish powers.

The UK government welcomed the report, but Scottish ministers said it fell short of what the nation needed to flourish.

The Smith Commission, which took forward its recommendations in consultation with the Scottish Parliament's five parties - The SNP, Labour, Conservatives, Liberal Democrats and Greens - recommended that:

   The parliament should be given the power to set income tax rates and bands on earned income and will retain all of the income tax raised in Scotland.

   The parliament should be given powers to allow 16 and 17-year-olds to vote in Scottish elections.

   The parliament should be given powers to create new benefits in devolved areas and make discretionary payments in any area of welfare.

   A range of other benefits that support older people, carers, disabled people and those who are ill should also be fully devolved.

   The Scottish government and Scottish Parliament should have a "formal consultative role" in the process of reviewing the BBC Charter.

Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael said a "stakeholder group" would now be set up to take forward the recommendations.

The Liberal Democrat MP said: "Having a more powerful Scottish parliament inside a strong United Kingdom will open the door to more constitutional change in the United Kingdom.

"We can achieve home rule all round."

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The Scottish government said any new powers were to be welcomed, but First Minister Nicola Sturgeon argued the Smith Commission package was ultimately disappointing because many powers, like the personal tax allowance, corporate taxation and child and working tax credits, would remain with Westminster.

Speaking at Holyrood, she said: "70% of our taxes continue to be set at Westminster, 85% of social security controlled at Westminster - this parliament responsible for less than half of the money we will spend.

"It's not so much the home rule that was promised - in so many respects, it's continued Westminster rule."
Also what the deal would mean for the UK: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-30224487
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:17 pm

Thanks, LL, it will be interesting to see how this looks when numbers have been crunched. I can see one or two problems, like OIL REVENUE. And the fact that any taxes raised here will be deducted from the block grant. And OIL REVENUES.

I wouldn't be surprised if nothing comes of it, I gather it's got to survive the general election, the next UK government, and the Commons and Lords. It's probably a step in the right direction, though frankly, I personally think some kind of break-up of the UK is inevitable, and this is all a bit re-arranging the Titanic deckchairs.

Time will, as ever, tell. At least we can all take comfort in knowing that, uniquely amongst governments these days, the SNP won't do ANYTHING that is bad for Scottish people.
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Post  lily Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:28 pm

Oh my!  Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:41 pm

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/the-national-set-to-become-permanent-fixture-in-scotlands-media-landscape.1417167363

The National: set to become permanent fixture in Scotland's media landscape
Friday 28 November 2014
A new Scottish newspaper supporting independence is to become a permanent fixture after a successful trial.

The National went on sale from Monday as part of an initial five-day run but will now continue after sales "beyond the wildest dreams" of publishers.

An editorial in the paper today thanked readers for their support and disclosed that 60,000 copies were sold on its first day and that about 11,000 people have signed up for a digital subscription to The National.

The newspaper costs 50p and the masthead describes it as ''the newspaper that supports an independent Scotland''.

It is published by the Herald & Times Group, which already publishes the Herald, the Sunday Herald and the Evening Times in Scotland.

The Sunday Herald was the only newspaper in favour of leaving the UK in the run-up to September's referendum. Its editor Richard Walker is also in charge of The National.

The editorial in the paper today said: "Our first edition sold out. We printed 100,000 copies the following day, and sales stayed at a high level.

"They have slipped slightly since - as sales inevitably do after a launch edition. But they remain beyond our wildest dreams and are bolstered by more than 11,000 digital subscriptions. It's been an incredible - if challenging - week."

Former First Minister Alex Salmond showed his support for the publication yesterday as he carried a copy of The National on stage as he was named Spectator magazine's Politician of the Year at a ceremony in London.
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:51 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-30238389

Alex Salmond wins Spectator's politician of year award

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Alex Salmond has been named as the winner of the Spectator magazine's Politician of the Year award.

The former Scottish first minister previously won the award in 2011 after the SNP won a majority of the seats at the Scottish Parliament.

Mr Salmond stood down in the wake of September's independence referendum.

He said he was "honoured" to receive the award which was presented by last year's winner, Home Secretary Theresa May.

In their awards citation, the judges said: "The referendum was not an event that summed up this year in politics, it was a feeling and one history books won't record.

"It was the feeling of going to bed on the 18th of September and not knowing if the Union would still be intact when you woke up. This was the night that Britain held its breath, a moment of incredible drama created by the audacity and tenacity of our winner.'

"Almost 20 years ago, John Major's government made a peace offering to Scotland, by returning the Stone of Destiny to Edinburgh. So it would surely be appropriate that Edinburgh now returns something just as weighty to Westminster.

"So we now request, nay demand, that the Edinburgh establishment sends our winner back to his rightful place in the House of Commons."

'Momentous year'
Mr Salmond said: "I am honoured to have been selected for this award, and would like to thank the panellists and organisers.

"This has been a momentous year for Scotland, and while the 'Yes' campaign may not have won in the referendum, there is no doubt that Scotland has been changed utterly.

"With the SNP now the third biggest party in the UK with more than twice as many members as the Lib Dems, and support for the party surging in the polls, there is a determination in Scotland to ensure that real progress is delivered."

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Nicola Sturgeon in charge of the Scottish government, and Alex Salmond leading the SNP delegation to Westminster, is London's worst nightmare.

Especially with Farage running rampant in England. Good times! biggrin
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Post  lily Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:58 pm

So glad for you guys.  smile
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Post  bb1 Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:40 pm

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Oh, what a surprise, we've been lied to again! Whoever would have expected that?
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Game on! rofl
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Post  lily Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:02 pm

yaydance So happy for you Bonny,   biggrin
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Post  bb1 Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:04 pm

Next year's going to be very, very interesting, what with UKIP running riot in England, and SNP support astronomically high in Scotland.

I don't see Labour winning, the Lib Dems are history, but I don't see Cameron getting an overall majority, either.
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Post  lily Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:50 pm

You all need a shake up.  So may the best man win.   biggrin
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Post  bb1 Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:22 am

Yup, he's going for Westminster - to put a stake in its heart, most likely...

http://news.sky.com/story/1387365/alex-salmond-launches-his-wesminster-bid

Alex Salmond Launches His Wesminster Bid
The ex-Scottish first minister will stand for election in the Gordon seat after weeks of speculation about his political future.


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Full story at link.

I put off Sky News after his speech, as they dragged up some Labourite journo from the Daily Rangers to whine about, well, everything to do with the SNP. As usual.
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Post  bb1 Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:19 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1387365/alex-salmond-will-donate-pay-if-elected-as-mp

Alex Salmond Will Donate Pay If Elected As MP
As the ex-Scottish first minister announces his Westminster bid, he says he will give away one salary if elected as MP for Gordon.

Former Scottish first minister Alex Salmond has said he will donate one of his salaries to charity if he is elected as an MP next May.

The ex-SNP leader has formally announced that he will join the contest for the seat in the UK parliamentary constituency of Gordon.

It is currently held by Sir Malcolm Bruce, the long-serving Liberal Democrat MP who is retiring in May 2015.

Mr Salmond resigned as SNP leader and First Minister last month, having signalled his intention to do so just hours after the Yes campaign lost the independence referendum, and speculation over his political future has continued ever since.

He is currently the MSP for the Aberdeenshire East constituency, which covers some of the same areas as the Gordon seat. If elected in May, he will also continue to serve at Holyrood.

Mr Salmond set out his plans in a speech in Ellon, Aberdeenshire.

"If elected with a dual mandate for Holyrood and Westminster I will do as I have done previously and donate one of the salaries to support youth causes in the North East of Scotland."
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Post  lily Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:23 pm

I like him, Bonny.  He seems to have something too many other politicians don't.  Integrity.
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Post  bb1 Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:29 am

Here's someone that wouldn't know 'integrity' if he fell over it:

http://news.sky.com/story/1391358/murphy-named-scottish-labour-party-leader

Jim Murphy MP is the new leader of the Scottish Labour Party, beating Holyrood health spokesman Neil Finlay and former Scottish Executive minister Sarah Boyack.

The East Renfrewshire MP and former Secretary Of State for Scotland had been favourite to win the race triggered by by the resignation of previous leader Johann Lamont.

Speaking after the announcement, Mr Murphy, who received 55.77% of the vote, said "Today is the fulfilment of a dream for me."

He joked that he had always dreamed of being appointed captain of a team in the east end of Glasgow.

He said becoming leader was a "remarkable honour" and "a fresh start for the Scottish Labour Party".


Yeah, right - this will be about the fifth 'fresh start' its had in ten years. This is excellent news for the SNP, as he is widely despised by ordinary Labour voters for jumping into bed with the Tories.

How did he get elected, you may ask? Simples - the usual Scottish Labour dodgy practises.

They don't. as do the SNP, have the simple one member-one vote system for Party elections. Heavens no, nothing so open and democratic.

No, they have block votes of special interest groups, like trade unions, that in turn elect a form of electoral college. They don't do anything as straightforward as actually asking their members...
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Oor Eck being an Evil Genius.
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Post  bb1 Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:27 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/26/labour-bloodbath-scotland-general-election-2015-snp-westminster

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Some fascinating stats and charts there - May 2015 should be...most interesting.

Also interesting is this:

Margaret Thatcher secretly feared that giving concessions to Irish republicans could trigger separatist demands from Asians in Britain, official files reveal today.
They show she fretted about the effect that appeasing nationalists in Northern Ireland – for example, relaxing the rules on flying flags – would have on other minorities in the UK.
Speaking at an Irish peace-building summit 30 years ago, she said: ‘If these things were done, the next question would be what comes next?
‘Were the Sikhs in Southall to be allowed to fly their own flag?’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2888071/Maggie-feared-deal-Irish-fuel-Asian-tensions-Secret-files-late-PM-fretted-appeasing-nationalists-case-triggered-demands-ethnic-minorities.html#ixzz3N7VIFIAg
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I am astounded that Maggie couldn't see why Irish people in what had been Ireland until a political and religious carve-up a few decades previously were NOT the same as Asian immigrants to England.

A blind spot, arrogance, ignorance, whatever it was, goes a long way to explaining why she never, ever grasped why she was widely detested in Scotland, or her role in destroying her party in Scotland.
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Post  bb1 Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:50 pm

Not politics, but quite an interesting piece about renewable energy:

http://m.stv.tv/news/scotland/305208-december-hailed-as-record-output-month-for-wind-power-in-scotland/

Not only do we appear to generate sufficient for ourselves, we export it. Along with our gas and oil. Rolling Eyes
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