War in Ukraine

I can go with that.  

7FBTK ‏@7FBTK 14h14 hours ago
#russiannavy Krivak I frigate "Ladnyy" departing Sevastopol today en route to Mediterranean Sea | A. Balabin



You cannot fail to appreciate the irony of the Russian Navy leaving the Hero Port of Sevastopol (Washington f*ck-up) to go to the aid of the elected government and people of Syria (Washington f*ck-up).

Are you saying our dear leader has done his usual screw up?  

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/08/uk-eu-juncker-russia-idUKKCN0S22MF20151008

Europe must improve its relationship with Russia and should not let this be something decided by Washington, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said on Thursday.

The European Union joined the United States in imposing sanctions on Russia last year over its annexation of Crimea from Ukraine, and tightened them after separatists launched a rebellion in the east of the country with the backing of Russia.

Relations between Moscow and the West have taken a further turn for the worse since Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a bombing campaign in Syria against opponents of President Bashar al-Assad.

Juncker said tensions had to be eased, even if this was not necessarily popular. "We must make efforts towards a practical relationship with Russia. It is not sexy but that must be the case, we can't go on like this," he said at an event in the southern German town of Passau.

Last week U.S. President Barack Obama accused Putin of acting out of a position of weakness to defend a crumbling, authoritarian ally in the Syrian leader.

But Juncker signalled Europe should take a different approach. "Russia must be treated decently," he said. "We can't let our relationship with Russia be dictated by Washington."

EU sanctions are up for renewal at the end of this year and so far the bloc has taken a united line on maintaining them, even though some member states are being hit hard, including by Russian counter-sanctions on Western food imports.


Maybe we need an entire thread dedicated to Obama clusterf*cks? If his aim was to leave the US without a single ally, he's certainly succeeding - Whitehall will bail ASAP too, when they see the way the wind is blowing.

Oh, I forgot!

He'll always have Saudi Arabia.

......aren't we lucky?  

Lily, the money that has been thrown down the toilet on all this is bad enough, but the loss of life caused by it is unforgiveable. In all my years, I have NEVER seen anything like the Obama regime.

I'm sure there is a nice spot received for him in a place that is reported to be extremely hot.

Things you never expected to find yourself saying.... I hope Trump gets elected, he seems to have little interest in meddling in the affairs of other nations, and just by not being an effeminate community agitator will be regarded as an equal by Putin, Xi, etc.

And he isn't on the Soros payroll.

Exactly, Bonny.  

Trump is not my favorite person by a long shot.  I know we have rightly mocked him on a thread here about his Scottish golf course.  However, I think he would be the best shot for the US - and the world.  He has not been bought off and importantly, he is not on that Mr Evil's payroll. 

I hope he wins.