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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:32 pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-11/us-send-drones-humvees-ukraine-boost-russia-sanctions-moscow-may-deploy-nuclear-weap


US To Send Drones, Humvees To Ukraine, Boost Russia Sanctions As Moscow May "Deploy Nuclear Weapons In Crimea"


Yup.

Those clowns in Washington are going to get us all killed. Over a shower of theiving, corrupt neo-Nazis that aren't worth as much as a broken nail.
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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:20 pm

On the disgusting duplicity of Western media, and their glamourising of Nazis:

http://newcoldwar.org/the-guardian-publishes-romanticized-feature-on-neo-nazi-women-in-ukraine/

War in Ukraine - Page 11 Woman-named-Anaconda-in-neo-Nazi-Ukraine-battalion-Aidar.-Van-door-has-a-neo-Nazi-symbol.-Photo-from-The-Guardian-on-March-5-2015-by-Jonathan-Alpeyrie-Transterra-Media-300x180


Woman named ‘Anaconda’ in neo-Nazi Ukraine battalion ‘Aidar’. Vehicle side panel has a neo-Nazi symbol ‘1488’. Photo from The Guardian on March 5, 2015, by Jonathan Alpeyrie, Transterra Media


See those crossed things on the door of her vehicle? They're crossed grenades:

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/crossed-grenades.html#.VQCGovnF-AE

War in Ukraine - Page 11 Crossed-grenades-1
Also known as: Dirlewanger

The crossed grenade emblem signifies the Waffen SS unit most commonly known, after its commander, as the "Dirlewanger Brigade" (later, the 36th SS Division). Oskar Dirlewanger (1895-1945) was an SS officer involved in the Holocaust and anti-partisan actions in World War II, including the murderous suppression of the 1944 uprising of the Polish Home Army in Warsaw. Even within the Waffen SS, both Dirlewanger and his unit had a reputation for sadism, cruelty, and atrocities. As a result, modern-day neo-Nazis regard Dirlewanger as a hero; there was even a white power music band named after him.

And this is what 1488 refers to:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1488

1488
White Supremacy Encryption

14 = The 14 words

"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"

Phrase coined by George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi Party

88 = H is the 8th letter of the alphabet
ergo 88 = HH = Heil Hitler


Doesn't it make you proud to know that the US and UK are arming and supporting these scum?

No, me neither.
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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:26 pm

https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/EUR50/040/2014/en/

Ukraine: Abuses and war crimes by the Aidar Volunteer Battalion in the north Luhansk region
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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:33 pm

How is this for a Roll of Shame? Just look at who the three countries were, that voted AGAINST A UN resolution decrying the glorification of Nazism, etc:

http://www.un.org/en/ga/third/69/docs/voting_sheets/L56.Rev1.pdf

The three countries that find Nazism acceptable are:

CANADA

UKRAINE

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA


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Post  lily Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:53 pm

My God. What are we coming to?
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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:58 pm

It's utterly, utterly sickening, Lily. I wish the American MSM would report on this - Obama, Numan, Biden and co would be lynched when the decent American folk found out the truth of what is being done in their name.
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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:39 pm

Not a thing I often say, but Nigel Farage talks sense, for once....

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-11/nigel-farage-rages-junckers-european-army-proposal


Nigel Farage Rages At Juncker's "European Army" Proposal




Earlier today, the leader of Britain’s UKIP, eloquent wordsmith and member of the EU Parliament, Nigel Farage, unleashed one of his most memorable and finest diatribes in recent years.

"We ourselves in the European Union provoked the conflict through our territorial expansionism in the Ukraine. We poked the Russian bear with a stick, and unsurprisingly, Putin reacted. But this now is to be used as an opportunity to build a European army... And Mr. Juncker said, we must convey to Russia that we are serious. Who do you think you are kidding, Mr. Juncker?
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Post  lily Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:07 pm

Very impressive! Definitely agree with him there.
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:46 am

Not directly related, but quite interesting:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/12/jews-in-baltics-fear-creep-anti-semitism/

“We have to say that the support of Hitler and rewriting history to turn Hitler into a liberator of this area is not a western value.”- Dovid Katz, Yiddish scholar


Unfortunately, it is, these days. These disgusting people are being armed and supported by the West in the Ukraine, and they will be cynically used by NATO elsewhere in eastern Europe.
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:47 am

Just a reminder:

How is this for a Roll of Shame? Just look at who the three countries were, that voted AGAINST A UN resolution decrying the glorification of Nazism, etc:

http://www.un.org/en/ga/third/69/docs/voting_sheets/L56.Rev1.pdf

The three countries that find Nazism acceptable are:

CANADA

UKRAINE

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA


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Post  lily Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:16 pm

OMG.....
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:11 pm

http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/the-ministry-of-economy-will-cease-to.html

Translated from Russian by J.Hawk



Minister of the Economy Ayvaras Abromavichyus said in a report on the first 100 days of the new government’s work that his ministry is in the first stage of liquidation, and by the fall it will lose half of its staff.



He said that the ministry is undergoing restructurization. “Prime Minister Yatsenyuk and President Poroshenko told me that by the time my tenure as Minister expires, my ministry should no longer exist. We are moving in that direction.”



He added that “we are now at the first stage: I already signed all directives, and in a month and a half we’ll lose 30% of ministry’s staff, the next stage is another 20%, and by year’s end we’ll lose 50% of the staff.”


“The ministry has 247 functions. They’ve been operating as if it were still the Gosplan [Soviet state economic planning agency responsible for the 5-year-plans]. Our goal is to become a modern, mobile Ministry of the Economy of a European country. I was forced to part ways with all the old deputies, because you can’t make a new soup with old cadres. The old cadres have zero desire to carry out reforms.”



Yatsenyuk confirmed the plan to liquidate the ministry. “The Ministry of the Economy will cease to exist, but Ukraine’s economy will remain.”



Abromavichius talked about disbanding the ministry already in January. However, at that time the government was considering two possible options. One was to transfer some of its functions to the Ministry of Finance, others to the NBU, and then shut down the ministry. The second option was to reform the ministry, which would retain those functions which are necessary to implement reforms.

Abramavichius is a Lithuanian entrepreneur, a co-owner and one of the director of the Swedish investment company East Capital. He was named the Minister of the Economy in December 2014. He received Ukrainian citizenship, and gave up Lithuanian one. He studied at the Concordia University in the United States (state of Wisconsin). The first year of his studies was paid by the Soros Fund. He is also a minority owner of shares in the Sberbank.
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Post  lily Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:24 pm

Whoever would have thought that that connection could possibly be there.....
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:41 pm

Anywhere in the world where there's misery, turmoil and bloodshed, that vulture's name crops up, Lily, right from Ferguson to Donbass.
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Post  lily Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:56 pm

Well, what can we possibly expect from someone who ratted on his own people who were being persecuted in the worst of ways at that time?

I know he was only a teenager but it appears he was most likely a psychopathic one.
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Post  lily Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:04 pm

Have just realized that many seriously wealthy people reach a point where their wealth does nothing for them.  

Instead of expecting them to be happy with their great fortune, those types are as unhappy as hell.  They often turn to substitutes like drugs to fill the void inside them and/or try to amass greater amounts of money as the hole inside seems insatiable.  

Happiness is a state of mind and not of the state of one's massive bank accounts.

His seems to be for power?
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:16 pm

It's not even power for good, Lily, it's just power for the sake of power. I cannot find one single thing Soros has done that has benefited humanity; he's used his ill-gotten gains to spread as much misery as possible.

And anyone that knowingly takes his money, is not one bit better than he is. He spent THIRTY THREE MILLION DOLLARS to spread mayhem in Ferguson, and elsewhere in the States. He's spent billions to stir up unrest and bloodshed in Ukraine. Under the guise of being oh so liberal and progressive, of course.

I can think of a great many uses for so much money that would improve the lot of the most needy, instead of spreading ruin worldwide.
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Post  lily Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:25 pm

He could have been one of the world's most powerful agents of good deeds, beloved of millions.

Look at the path he chose instead, desiring to ruin the lives of as many people as possible.  

He probably doesn't believe in Divine Justice.
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Post  bb1 Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:56 pm

Aha, but does Divine Justice believe in him? Cool

World's gone mad department:

http://rt.com/business/240517-russia-ukraine-imf-tranche/

Russia to provide $13.75mn as part of first IMF loan for Ukraine – finance minister

Russia will participate in financing the first tranche of IMF aid to Ukraine in the amount of $13.75 million; the Bank of Russia will deliver the payment on March 13, said Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov.

"The program [IMF $17.5bn package –Ed.] will be financed via the IMF quota resources, and the funding from shareholder countries in the framework of their participation in the so-called New Borrowing arrangements,” Siluanov said.

“As such, the Russian Federation will participate in the funding in accordance with its obligations as a participant, and deliver the first tranche of the IMF program for Ukraine in the amount of $13.75 million dollars. The Bank of Russia will carry out the payment on 13 March 2015,” he added.

The first tranche is 3.546 billion in special drawing rights (around $5 billion) and will be made available to the account of the National Bank of Ukraine, he said.

On March 11 the IMF approved a $17.5 billion rescue package for Ukraine that has created a lot of criticism. The bailout comes with strict terms which have already made Kiev make huge cuts to its 2015 budget.

READ MORE:IMF loan to Ukraine is ‘involuntary servitude’– Central Bank ex-head


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Mind you, it's probably a good deal for Russia, because most of the loan will just whizz round a few computer screens and end up in Gazprom's pockets, so they'll get their own money back with a good few million on top, as Ukraine is now only getting fuel if it pays in advance.

And as the terms of the loan are horrific, it's just a matter of time before Porky is forced to either flee the country or take a chance on a date with a lamppost.
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Post  lily Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:00 pm

I am with you on the money going circular, Bonny.  That would be a smart move...
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Post  bb1 Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:03 pm

It's not as if it's even real money any more, Lily, the kind that buys food, etc. It's all just zeros on screens, whizzing round banks, hedge funds and the bond market. Oh, and Gazprom. Gazprom still seems to have a rather old-fashioned fondness for real money, to match Russia's fondness for real gold. A fondness shared by Beijing, oddly enough....
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Post  lily Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:05 pm

I think most sane people would have a similar preference but strangely, our governments don't seem to share that opinion.
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Post  bb1 Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:25 pm

It's also odd how us ordinary people understand that PRINTING MONEY is a really, really bad idea, but modern financial experts don't agree, seemingly completely unaware of, well, history....
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Post  lily Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:37 pm

They do know how to amass a load for themselves before everything might er.....well.....collapse?
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Post  bb1 Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:57 pm

The Western media has been in a frenzy because no-one's seen Putin for a couple of days - don't ask me why, people are generally RELIEVED when they don't see politicians.

Anyway, the Chinese Whispers decided he must be ill. Or even dead.

However, according to internet gossip, he is very much alive and kicking. Though he may be a bit hungover due to celebrating.....

According to internet gossip, his longterm lady friend has just had a little Putinette. Which, if true, will doubtless be something else to annoy Obama........ rofl
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