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Re: Paulo Pereira Cristóvão in trouble
bb1 wrote:If investigations prove Cristovao has been bribing referees, on top of everything else, in a football-mad nation like Portugal, he's liable to be lynched by infuriated fans, Sabot.
And who knows what else will be found when the PJ start going through his finances? He can hardly start shrieking about his 'honour', can he?
I dear, Bonny. I wouldn't want that to happen. For him to be lynched that is. I really don't like violence. I would much rather he went to a nice, safe prison for a year or ten. He's bound to have lots of friends in there with him, so he won't get lonely or anything depressing like that.
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crazytony wrote:The process is secret justice by the Sporting Clube de Portugal refrained from at this stage to weave any considerations about the same," said the club.
Does that mean it will be in tomorrows Portuguese newspapers
I bet it won't for him, Tony. Only when it suits them......
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I would think so, Tony. This FOOTBALL. In Portugal.
Can you imagine what would happen if some not-very-popular American figure was accused of bribing referees in, say, the World Series?
It's the sort of thing that knocks wars, disasters, everything off the front page.
Can you imagine what would happen if some not-very-popular American figure was accused of bribing referees in, say, the World Series?
It's the sort of thing that knocks wars, disasters, everything off the front page.
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crazytony wrote:The process is secret justice by the Sporting Clube de Portugal refrained from at this stage to weave any considerations about the same," said the club.
Does that mean it will be in tomorrows Portuguese newspapers
Probably. But they can always leave it to me, and a few others I know. They'd be wasting their time applying for an EAW It's not an offence in France or UK. And I don't suppose it is in America either.
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Oh my, it is getting better, I mean worse , by the hour.
http://www.dn.pt/desporto/sporting/interior.aspx?content_id=2416475
"The decision does not contain any assumption of guilt"
by DN.pt with Lusa Today
Lions Vice President called for the suspension of the mandate following the "if Joseph Cardinal", justifying its decision with the "best interests" of Sporting.
Paul Christopher Pereira on Thursday justified the request for suspension of his term as vice president of Sporting with the "best interests", rejecting, in a statement sent to the agency Lusa, that this act represents "assumption of guilt."
"Face to what happened, I realized that being my personal honesty, and as a manager in question must submit to the President of the Board of Directors with immediate effect, my application for suspension of office as vice president of the Board of Directors of the Sporting Clube de Portugal, "said Paulo Pereira Christopher.
"This decision does not contain any assumption of guilt, on the contrary, and must be solely and exclusively with what we understand to be the best interests of the Sporting Clube de Portugal," he said.
The vice president of Sporting with the mandate has been suspended confirmed defendant constituted a slander complaint process, as well as carrying out investigations at home and in your company as well as the Estadio Jose Alvalade, with the club that Leo had already informed in its official website.
"In today searches were carried out to my house, my company and the premises of the Estadio Jose Alvalade, and during which I was made a defendant in a slander complaint process," said Paul Christopher Pereira, without further details: "On this matter at this stage, I believe that nothing should state ".
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"The decision does not contain any assumption of guilt"
MWAHAHAHAHAAHA
http://www.dn.pt/desporto/sporting/interior.aspx?content_id=2416475
"The decision does not contain any assumption of guilt"
by DN.pt with Lusa Today
Lions Vice President called for the suspension of the mandate following the "if Joseph Cardinal", justifying its decision with the "best interests" of Sporting.
Paul Christopher Pereira on Thursday justified the request for suspension of his term as vice president of Sporting with the "best interests", rejecting, in a statement sent to the agency Lusa, that this act represents "assumption of guilt."
"Face to what happened, I realized that being my personal honesty, and as a manager in question must submit to the President of the Board of Directors with immediate effect, my application for suspension of office as vice president of the Board of Directors of the Sporting Clube de Portugal, "said Paulo Pereira Christopher.
"This decision does not contain any assumption of guilt, on the contrary, and must be solely and exclusively with what we understand to be the best interests of the Sporting Clube de Portugal," he said.
The vice president of Sporting with the mandate has been suspended confirmed defendant constituted a slander complaint process, as well as carrying out investigations at home and in your company as well as the Estadio Jose Alvalade, with the club that Leo had already informed in its official website.
"In today searches were carried out to my house, my company and the premises of the Estadio Jose Alvalade, and during which I was made a defendant in a slander complaint process," said Paul Christopher Pereira, without further details: "On this matter at this stage, I believe that nothing should state ".
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"The decision does not contain any assumption of guilt"
MWAHAHAHAHAAHA
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Re: Paulo Pereira Cristóvão in trouble
And what is this?
during which I was made a defendant in a slander complaint process
Who's he been bad-mouthing now?
You couldn't make it up
during which I was made a defendant in a slander complaint process
Who's he been bad-mouthing now?
You couldn't make it up
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I realized that being my personal honesty
Oh I Like The Above, Personal Honesty, Yeah right
Oh I Like The Above, Personal Honesty, Yeah right
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I want some clarification of this Trap someone is supposed to have set for The Referee, Joseph Cardinal. That doesn't sound like Bribery to me. It sounds as though someone set him up.
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crazytony wrote:I realized that being my personal honesty
Oh I Like The Above, Personal Honesty, Yeah right
Everyone else has to put up with The PJ and Tom, Dick and Harry leaking stuff, so why shouldn't he. When did Honesty ever come into it?
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http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/ultima-hora/perfil-de-paulo-pereira-cristovao
Profile of Paulo Pereira Critóvão:
he was born in Lisbon in 1969. In 1990 he joined the staff of the Judicial Police from where he left in early 2007 to found a business intelligence company.
In 2009 candidate for president of the Sporting, but ends up losing to Jose Eduardo Bettencourt.
Appears in the list of the current president Godinho Lopes in the last election, having been with the 'folder' Heritage and Infrastructure.
He is the author of the works 'The Star of Joana "and" The Star of Madeleine'
comment about him, at CDM / Correio da Manhã:
"HUM ... with 21 years joins the ranks of PJ? And why was he sacked?"
Profile of Paulo Pereira Critóvão:
he was born in Lisbon in 1969. In 1990 he joined the staff of the Judicial Police from where he left in early 2007 to found a business intelligence company.
In 2009 candidate for president of the Sporting, but ends up losing to Jose Eduardo Bettencourt.
Appears in the list of the current president Godinho Lopes in the last election, having been with the 'folder' Heritage and Infrastructure.
He is the author of the works 'The Star of Joana "and" The Star of Madeleine'
comment about him, at CDM / Correio da Manhã:
"HUM ... with 21 years joins the ranks of PJ? And why was he sacked?"
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So, cristóvão says: I realized that being my personal honesty", then, why have you been sacked from pj?
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I don't think he's going to be able to sweep this one under the carpet:
Christopher Pereira suspends mandate in the Sporting
Vice President 'Leo' was established defendant in ' where Cardinal 'and decided to stay current term. Request was accepted by Sporting , which does no more comments.
Bruno Roseiro (www.expresso.pt)
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Christopher Paul Pereira, vice president of Sporting, today suspended the mandate as a result of investigations made in connection with the case 'Cardinal'. The request was accepted by the club leader, Godinho Lopes, and has immediate effect.
In a statement on the site official Sporting admitted carrying out searches in the Jose Alvalade stadium by the Public Prosecutor and the Judicial Police, "having been given all the assistance requested."
In parallel, the club refused to weave any comment on the case because "the process is secret justice."
PJ is two defendants
After the searches made at Alvalade and at home and in the company of Paul Christopher Pereira, the director and an employee of his company were made defendants by qualified slanderous denunciation, a crime that has a frame between criminal fine and three years in prison.
In this sense, there must be convinced by authorities that the deposit of two thousand euros made in Madeira, the account of Joseph Cardinal assistant referee, has been a 'trap' prepared by Paulo Pereira Christopher.
Ler mais: http://expresso.sapo.pt/pereira-cristovao-suspende-mandato-no-sporting=f718673#ixzz1rrb3xfru
Christopher Pereira suspends mandate in the Sporting
Vice President 'Leo' was established defendant in ' where Cardinal 'and decided to stay current term. Request was accepted by Sporting , which does no more comments.
Bruno Roseiro (www.expresso.pt)
17:53 Thursday, April 12, 2012
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Christopher Paul Pereira, vice president of Sporting, today suspended the mandate as a result of investigations made in connection with the case 'Cardinal'. The request was accepted by the club leader, Godinho Lopes, and has immediate effect.
In a statement on the site official Sporting admitted carrying out searches in the Jose Alvalade stadium by the Public Prosecutor and the Judicial Police, "having been given all the assistance requested."
In parallel, the club refused to weave any comment on the case because "the process is secret justice."
PJ is two defendants
After the searches made at Alvalade and at home and in the company of Paul Christopher Pereira, the director and an employee of his company were made defendants by qualified slanderous denunciation, a crime that has a frame between criminal fine and three years in prison.
In this sense, there must be convinced by authorities that the deposit of two thousand euros made in Madeira, the account of Joseph Cardinal assistant referee, has been a 'trap' prepared by Paulo Pereira Christopher.
Ler mais: http://expresso.sapo.pt/pereira-cristovao-suspende-mandato-no-sporting=f718673#ixzz1rrb3xfru
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What a bunch. You could not make this up at all.
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After the searches made at Alvalade and at home and in the company of Paul Christopher Pereira, the director and an employee of his company were made defendants by qualified slanderous denunciation, a crime that has a frame between criminal fine and three years in prison.
I hope Grimes was at this search with Eddie & Keela. Do you think Gonc was one of the ball boy's?.
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You´re right bb1:
"If investigations prove Cristovao has been bribing referees, on top of everything else, in a football-mad nation like Portugal, he's liable to be lynched by infuriated fans, Sabot.
And who knows what else will be found when the PJ start going through his finances? He can hardly start shrieking about his 'honour', can he?".
so, cristóvão have also rotten secrets, which explains why he and amaral are so friendly each other, they are the same, the more cristóvão´s dirty secrets are exposed the better.
"If investigations prove Cristovao has been bribing referees, on top of everything else, in a football-mad nation like Portugal, he's liable to be lynched by infuriated fans, Sabot.
And who knows what else will be found when the PJ start going through his finances? He can hardly start shrieking about his 'honour', can he?".
so, cristóvão have also rotten secrets, which explains why he and amaral are so friendly each other, they are the same, the more cristóvão´s dirty secrets are exposed the better.
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I really didn't forsee reading the sports section of CdM at the start of the day...
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/ultima-hora/apaf-considera-jose-cardinal-inocente-ate-prova-em-contrario
PAFF considers Joseph Cardinal innocent "until proven otherwise"
Gustavo Sousa said on Wednesday that the direction of the Portuguese Association of Football Referees (APAF), for which he chairs, Cardinal Joseph trusts. The international assistant referee, the Judicial Police (PJ) is investigating on suspicion of corruption have received a deposit of two thousand euros days before the Sporting-Maritime for the Cup of Portugal.
"This case is in secrecy. We can not do any investigation. We trust the referee until proven otherwise. It is a professional who deserves all the respect. Was in South Africa to perform duties on the day of the World Cup, "said Gustavo Sousa.
Joseph Cardinal was appointed to this game but was eventually replaced citing personal reasons. The case was triggered by Sporting, which after receiving a complaint reported the situation to Fernando Gomes.
The president of the Portuguese Football Federation had after meetings with the national director of the PJ and the attorney general's office, who has made the case and that motivated the research.
Asked about the instability that the revelation of this situation may cause a time in which they play the last rounds of the championship, Gustavo Sousa replied that "this question must be made to those who made the complaint."
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Am I getting this right, Pedro? The mystery money turned up in the referee's bank account; Cristovao made some kind of allegation about the referee, but when the PJ investigated, the money was - allegedly - traced back to Cristovao's company?
If the head of the PJ and the Attorney General are involved already, then this is being taken very seriously indeed?
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/ultima-hora/apaf-considera-jose-cardinal-inocente-ate-prova-em-contrario
PAFF considers Joseph Cardinal innocent "until proven otherwise"
Gustavo Sousa said on Wednesday that the direction of the Portuguese Association of Football Referees (APAF), for which he chairs, Cardinal Joseph trusts. The international assistant referee, the Judicial Police (PJ) is investigating on suspicion of corruption have received a deposit of two thousand euros days before the Sporting-Maritime for the Cup of Portugal.
"This case is in secrecy. We can not do any investigation. We trust the referee until proven otherwise. It is a professional who deserves all the respect. Was in South Africa to perform duties on the day of the World Cup, "said Gustavo Sousa.
Joseph Cardinal was appointed to this game but was eventually replaced citing personal reasons. The case was triggered by Sporting, which after receiving a complaint reported the situation to Fernando Gomes.
The president of the Portuguese Football Federation had after meetings with the national director of the PJ and the attorney general's office, who has made the case and that motivated the research.
Asked about the instability that the revelation of this situation may cause a time in which they play the last rounds of the championship, Gustavo Sousa replied that "this question must be made to those who made the complaint."
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Am I getting this right, Pedro? The mystery money turned up in the referee's bank account; Cristovao made some kind of allegation about the referee, but when the PJ investigated, the money was - allegedly - traced back to Cristovao's company?
If the head of the PJ and the Attorney General are involved already, then this is being taken very seriously indeed?
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In this sense, there must be convinced by authorities that the deposit of two thousand euros made in Madeira, the account of Joseph Cardinal assistant referee, has been a 'trap' prepared by Paulo Pereira Christopher.
Hang on a minute, I am getting confused.
Reading the above quote, I get from it, Cristóvão has tried to frame the referee?
Hang on a minute, I am getting confused.
Reading the above quote, I get from it, Cristóvão has tried to frame the referee?
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Yes bb1, you´re right, that´s what it seems.
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Think in terms of someone trying to set up The Referee for some reason, Bonny. This is sounding much more serious than bribery.
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crazytony wrote:In this sense, there must be convinced by authorities that the deposit of two thousand euros made in Madeira, the account of Joseph Cardinal assistant referee, has been a 'trap' prepared by Paulo Pereira Christopher.
Hang on a minute, I am getting confused.
Reading the above quote, I get from it, Cristóvão has tried to frame the referee?
That's what I get, Tony. It sounds like an attempt to blackmail The Referee.
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There's big money in match-fixing, not so much for the prestige of any team - but because so much money is bet on winners and losers.
If - repeat, IF - this is what Cristovao is involved in, he is in very big legal trouble indeed.
Also, he is liable to be lynched by infuriated Portuguese football fans.
If - repeat, IF - this is what Cristovao is involved in, he is in very big legal trouble indeed.
Also, he is liable to be lynched by infuriated Portuguese football fans.
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Thank goodness Sabot, I thought I was losing it more than usual.Sabot wrote:crazytony wrote:In this sense, there must be convinced by authorities that the deposit of two thousand euros made in Madeira, the account of Joseph Cardinal assistant referee, has been a 'trap' prepared by Paulo Pereira Christopher.
Hang on a minute, I am getting confused.
Reading the above quote, I get from it, Cristóvão has tried to frame the referee?
That's what I get, Tony. It sounds like an attempt to blackmail The Referee.
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Bribery and Corruption appear to be so common place in Portugal that it is possible they thought The Referee would collapse in fear and do what they wanted because he would find it difficult to prove he was innocent.
It sounds to me as though The Referee found out or was threaten, and promptly reported them.
Is this a good time to mention that jolly old Tide turning?
It sounds to me as though The Referee found out or was threaten, and promptly reported them.
Is this a good time to mention that jolly old Tide turning?
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That makes three of us, Tony; the whole thing is mindboggling, and googlespeak doesn't really help, what with lions appearing in the middle of it....all background information from Pedro is much appreciated.
I am gobsmacked at this; but, it is precisely the sort of scandal, totally out of the blue, that is most likely to bring the whole corrupt shower down.
It's not politics, it's not the normal sort of crime, it's football - the one thing guaranteed to cause national outrage in Portugal, with its proud footballing history.
You can say the tide is turning if I can say the house of cards is tumbling down, Sabot.
I am gobsmacked at this; but, it is precisely the sort of scandal, totally out of the blue, that is most likely to bring the whole corrupt shower down.
It's not politics, it's not the normal sort of crime, it's football - the one thing guaranteed to cause national outrage in Portugal, with its proud footballing history.
You can say the tide is turning if I can say the house of cards is tumbling down, Sabot.
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bb1 wrote:There's big money in match-fixing, not so much for the prestige of any team - but because so much money is bet on winners and losers.
If - repeat, IF - this is what Cristovao is involved in, he is in very big legal trouble indeed.
Also, he is liable to be lynched by infuriated Portuguese football fans.
About time this corrupt lot were bought to book!
Wasn't it Cristovao, who had something to do with a top Portuguese football club, some time ago?
I wonder why they would travel all the way from Lisbon to Madeira to put money in the refs bank account. I can't see them doing this over the internet or by phone.
This is going to be BIG, when the
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