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Post  bb1 Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:17 pm

What a surprise! CSI Petey tries to blame the Hillsborough victims.

: Hillsborough: Families Braced For Revelations
PeterMac Today at 8:56 am

Not yet. I was a Match Commander for 10 years at Forest and County, having learned my trade in the 70s in the days of open terraces and the regular crushing forward by the yobs at the back. We regularly had to pull children out over the wall at the front of the east stand, and send them for medical attention.
Then came the pitch invasions, then came the fencing. All reactive measures.
At Bramshill on my course we were lectured at length by the two officers who had prepared the material for the Taylor enquiry.
If what they said was correct, there are some unpleasant revelations in store.


Well, there have certainly been unpleasant revelations, haven't there? He's the kind who gets the police a bad name mad
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Post  Jean-Pierre.t50 Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:33 pm

Is it just me, or has PeterMac gone a bit quiet..........?

Mind you, he WAS spot on with "If what they said was correct, there are some unpleasant revelations in store" -

doctored statements, cover up......


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Post  Jean-Pierre.t50 Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:53 pm

Maybe these were the sort of revelations that CSI Pete had in mind

"At Bramshill on my course we were lectured at length by the two officers who had prepared the material for the Taylor enquiry.
If what they said was correct, there are some unpleasant revelations in store."


"News International has co-operated with the Panel and, for the first time, today's report reveals that the source for these despicable untruths was a Sheffield news agency reporting conversations with South Yorkshire Police and Irvine Patnick, the then MP for Sheffield Hallam.

The Report finds that this was part of police efforts - and I quote - "to develop and publicise a version of events that focused on - allegations of drunkenness, ticketlessness and violence."

In terms of changing the record of events, we already know that police reports were significantly altered but the full extent was not drawn to Lord Justice Taylor's attention.

Today's Report finds that 164 statements were significantly amended - and 116 explicitly removed negative comments about the policing operation - including its lack of leadership.

The report also makes important findings about particular actions taken by the police and coroner while investigating the deaths.

There is new evidence which shows that police officers carried out police national computer checks on those who had died in an attempt - and I quote from the report - "to impugn the reputations of the deceased".

The Coroner took blood alcohol levels from all of the deceased including children.

The Panel finds no rationale whatsoever for what it regards as an "exceptional" decision.

The report states clearly that the attempt of the inquest to draw a link between blood alcohol and late arrival was "fundamentally flawed".

And that alcohol consumption was "unremarkable and not exceptional for a social or leisure occasion".

Mr Speaker, over all these years questions have been raised about the role of the government - including whether it did enough to uncover the truth.

It is certainly true that some of the language in the government papers published today was insensitive.

But having been through every document - and every government document including Cabinet Minutes will be published - the Panel found no evidence of any government trying to conceal the truth.

At the time of the Taylor Report the then Prime Minister was briefed by her private secretary that the defensive and - I quote - "close to deceitful" behaviour of senior South Yorkshire officers was "depressingly familiar."

And it is clear that the then government thought it right that the Chief Constable of South Yorkshire should resign."

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Post  Sabot Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:14 pm


No wonder PeterMac supports Amaral. He was obviously the same sort of Policeman.
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Post  bb1 Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:29 pm

Oh, here's a good excuse for Gonc, next time he needs a sick note:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/4534378/Lindsay-Lohan-misses-filming-with-Charlie-Sheen-for-Scary-Movie-5-claiming-walking-pneumonia.html

'walking pneumonia'

I am sure we all believe that.
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Post  lily Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:36 pm

You can bet that she doesn't have that, Bonny, but there is a type of pneumonia that is called that in the US. It is viral (milder) as opposed to bacterial so you can actually carry on with your life. Bacterial is the one that kicks you to the floor.
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Post  bb1 Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:46 pm

From:

http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.co.uk/?zx=bd7d5ff2f7285e1a

On a finishing note, the Portuguese Judiciary do not believe the McCanns guilty, in actual fact they, are more annoyed at the bad press from the UK media.
Seriously, they are not the country bumpkins they have been portrayed to be. And, they have no respect whatsoever for Amaral and his faux honor.


Which makes perfect sense; I was muttering earlier about Gonc dragging his uniform and his country into disgrace. It's been made worse by the Goncalettes and hatebloggers insistence that Gonc speaks for the PJ, nay, the whole of Portugal.

When in fact the PJ are doing their best to strip him of his pension and other privileges.
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Post  bb1 Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:35 am

Hilarious Gonc Party Line now being parroted by the interlectool forkers...

Amoral was only a bit player, nothing to do with anything, Heavens to Betsy no, perish the thought.

Pathetic straw-grasping, but very, very funny; times must be hard in Hateland if that's the best they can come up with. Pcorneater
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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:57 am

I enjoy this statement:

"On a finishing note, the Portuguese Judiciary do not believe the McCanns guilty, in actual fact they, are more annoyed at the bad press from the UK media.

And, they have no respect whatsoever for Amaral and his faux honor.

Which makes perfect sense; I was muttering earlier about Gonc dragging his uniform and his country into disgrace. It's been made worse by the Goncalettes and hatebloggers insistence that Gonc speaks for the PJ, nay, the whole of Portugal.

When in fact the PJ are doing their best to strip him of his pension and other privileges."



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Post  Sabot Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:02 pm

A Bit Player? I thought he was The Man. If not little short of The Second Coming.
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Post  bb1 Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:17 pm

No, today's script is that he has nothing whatsoever to do with anything, Sabot. Perish the very thought!

They are doing that thing where they try to rewrite history. They are trying to pretend that it didn't become ALL about him at around about 10pm on May 3rd, 2007 and was ALL about him until he was kicked off the case and sacked as head of Portimao PJ at the start of October.

Who it is they think ran the investigation with breathtaking incompetence; who was behind all those leaks to tabloids; who was Sources in the PJ and all the rest of the crap I do not know.

But it wasn't Gonc, goodness no!

Why do they never ask themselves why Rebelo isn't continually in legal trouble? Odd, that.
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Post  bb1 Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:01 pm

I wonder why Morais has said nothing about her beloved Gonc's latest legal debacle? It's not as if she hasn't been around and twittering...

11 Sep Joana Morais ‏@xklamation
La rebaja de sueldos desata la mayor rebelión en Portugal desde el rescate http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/economia/2012/09/11/rebaja-sueldos-desata-mayor-rebelion-portugal-rescate/0003_201209G11P27991.htm#.UE8SgRZQK7U.twitter … follow @ruicruz #tugaleaks
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Post  bb1 Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:14 pm

Every cloud has a silver lining....

Having been given the full Mushroom Treatment by the rest of Team Gonc, smiffy has flounced off again, pausing only to bitch about one of the McCann's PI's and hit him with his handbag.

Poor thing's bound to be bitter, after all that frothing he did last week at the behest of Big Rock, only to find out that the Big Boys hadn't told him about their Secret Plan, and just let him make an idiot of himself.
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Post  bb1 Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:34 pm

Gonçalo Amaral recognizes that he was already contacted by Anthony Bennett. “We spoke several times through the internet. This is a friendly cooperation, he hasn’t paid me and I don’t wish to be paid”, the former Judiciária inspector told 24Horas.

Despite them being so chummy back in the day, Gonc didn't bother to tell Bennett he was going to do the Chicken Dance, either.

Bennett was begging for information on twitter, in the dark just like smiffy.

Put not your trust in princes. Or in disgraced ex-cops with criminal convictions for lying.
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Post  Sabot Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:37 pm


How much did Bennett's Houndation subscribe to Amaral's Fund?
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Post  bb1 Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:46 pm

It appears to be £500, but I am none too sure if it actually got there; Morais was furious:

http://pjga.blogspot.com/2010/06/pjga-statement-on-madeleine-foundation.html

But.....

We plan fund-raising initiatives ourselves and will forward the proceeds directly to Mr Amaral.
We began our donations to him with a payment to him of
€ 578,35 (£500) earlier this month!!


Who knows? Who can tell, with these people?
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Post  Sabot Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:53 pm

bb1 wrote:It appears to be £500, but I am none too sure if it actually got there; Morais was furious:

http://pjga.blogspot.com/2010/06/pjga-statement-on-madeleine-foundation.html

But.....

We plan fund-raising initiatives ourselves and will forward the proceeds directly to Mr Amaral.
We began our donations to him with a payment to him of
€ 578,35 (£500) earlier this month!!


Who knows? Who can tell, with these people?

I think they made another donation after that, Bonny. Not that I care.
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Post  bb1 Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:15 pm

Me neither, Sabot, if the hounders want to throw their money down the drain, they are more than welcome.

Curiously, one of the hatebloggers seems to think it's a good to remind the world of what it calls the 'Carvi restaurant scandal'. How said hateblogger imagines digging that up HELPS Gonc, I have no idea.

I had forgotten all about this, from summer 2007:

The latest development comes on the day Portuguese police were forced to defend their reputation amid allegations that they were enjoying boozy lunches while the search for Madeleine continued. Armed police officers were also criticised by Madeleine's aunt for preventing her from putting up posters of the little girl at Lisbon Airport.
Senior police officers involved in the investigation were seen laughing and joking as images of the missing four-year-old and her desperate parents appeared on a restaurant TV screen.
It happened at a lunch lasting nearly two hours as Kate and Gerry McCann were away campaigning in Europe.
They laughed and cracked jokes as they enjoyed a meal washed down with wine and whisky - as footage of the couple played in the background.
Afterwards, they left a table littered with empty glasses - and went back to work.
Yesterday Policia Judiciara (PJ) spokesman Olegario Sousa, one of the officers spotted having lunch, said it was up to the individual to decide what he or she ate and drank.
Asked if it was acceptable for police to drink alcohol in their lunch break he said: "I don't know, it is very, very sad but a person's free time is for lunch. That is normal to do.
"The persons are in charge in the day, they are working in the day but they must eat and drink - it is normal.
"I drink what I want to drink when I can drink."
When it was put to him that he had been seen drinking, he said: "Have you seen anyone drunk? Have you seen any action deterred by that?"
Mr Sousa and Goncalo Amaral, head of the regional PJ, were spotted as Kate and Gerry McCann travelled to Berlin and Amsterdam to appeal for more information about their missing daughter.
In Portimao, a town near where the four-year-old was snatched 35 days ago, a diner at fish restaurant Carvi said he recognised the police officials.
"I knew who they were because Mr Sousa has been all over the TV and in the papers," he said.


The diner watched as officers enjoyed the lunch, which took place a short walk from the police station less than 24 hours after Kate and Gerry McCann were told that everything possible was being done to find their little girl.
Then - in what looked like becoming the first arrest in this case after nearly five weeks, a photographer trying to take a picture of them emerging from the restaurant was detained, held for four hours, fingerprinted, interviewed, and had his camera confiscated. He has now been formally named as an 'Arguido' - the same status as the chief suspect in Madeleine's disappearance, Robert Murat.

On Tuesday, two groups went to two separate restaurants. The bigger party did not begin to leave for an hour and three-quarters. The smaller party had a 50-euro meal of fish and wine and shared jokes between what appeared to be discussion about police business.
On Wednesday, the party included senior figures from police headquarters at Portimao, where the investigation is based. One of them was Ch Insp Olegario Sousa, the public face of the inquiry, who appears on TV at press conferences. Another was Goncalo Amaral, number three in the investigation and a well-known figure in major police operations.
At 12.50pm the two men strolled across a sun-drenched square to Carvi restaurant, a regular haunt that specialises in fresh seafood and lobster straight from the tank. Inside, they formed a table of four with two other officers.
The diner said: 'They asked for the Portuguese TV news to be switched on and sat at the table watching it. It must have been about 2pm. Madeleine's parents had given a press conference in Berlin and they came on the screen.'
At that Berlin conference, Gerry McCann had made it clear he was confident police were doing all they could to find Madeleine. During a live broadcast that morning he had said: 'We have had no doubts about the desire of the police to find Madeleine. We have witnessed their efforts first hand and they're working harder than Kate and I.'
The diner added: 'The police were laughing and joking among themselves while it was on. They seemed to be sharing some sort of joke. Whatever it was, I thought that laughing like that in public was in really poor taste.
'They had a bottle of chilled wine with the meal but they had a bottle of whisky on the table after the main course as well. I was pretty shocked to see they were drinking whisky at lunchtime. The bottle was passing between them for about half an hour.
'Someone on another table seemed to know them and joked about them having two-hour lunches and knocking back Johnnie Walker Black. He said they would get themselves in the papers.

'There was a guy in a red shirt holding court about Portuguese law. They were discussing a change in the law being planned for Arguidos.' (Portuguese for suspect).
Two of the party left, then Ch Insp Sousa left on his own, leaving a colleague behind.
'I got the impression they went there regularly - they were very friendly with the waiter. I don't know what time they came in but I was there for a good 90 minutes and when I left, one of them was still slumped back in his chair in the corner with the whisky bottle in front of him. He was a big sweaty guy and he was sagging into the chair. The table was littered with empty glasses.
'There was some sort of commotion and I heard someone shout out. They swore and said something about the 'Paparazzi Ingles' (English Paparazzi) hiding behind the door.'



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-460533/I-know-Madeleine-traced-Argentina.html#ixzz26U7hvU9Y

I can't imagine who the 'big sweaty guy' left behind was. Pcorneater

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Post  bb1 Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:59 pm

Bro. Simon Harwood ‏@BroSimonHarwood
@Muttfan @rothleyreporter Kate & Gerry #McCann have never sued John Blacksmith for some reason I cannot myself imagine


Might be because he is a tedious bore, of no relevance to anyone besides himself and his fan club, and his estrangement from anything resembling reality is legendary. Allegedly. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:01 pm

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@mr_cibubur Think you'll find there are v few lawyers who would risk their professional integrity by pretending to have operations


1. The 'poorly lawyer' hasn't said a word; no-one has. The whole saga has been conducted via the Hasta la Pasta hateblogger.

Which has led to questions about why Morais is out of favour. She's round and about, and twittering:

15 Sep Joana Morais ‏@xklamation
Manifestante imolou-se pelo fogo em Aveiro http://is.gd/jbaoQz #15sPT


2. Zoe appears to have forgotten which of her many heads she is wearing. No doubt it gets confusing when someone uses as many different names as she does.
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Post  Pedro Silva Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:56 pm

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"Joana Morais ‏@xklamation
Manifestante imolou-se pelo fogo em Aveiro http://is.gd/jbaoQz #15sPT"

this woman is truly insane, this has nothing to do with the libel trial, what a stupid woman.
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:11 pm

I don't know why she tweeted that either, Pedro - does she think people are too stupid to read newspapers, that they need her to tell them that someone set themselves on fire in the course of the demos?

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Post  Pedro Silva Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:18 pm

bb1, I agree with you,

morais is the stupid.
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:58 pm

Smiffy's another stupid. His latest bolleaux claims:

Amaral's Dynamite

No, he isn't. He's a grubby, bullying, blustering, convicted criminal liar who is running scared. And no amount of regurgitated hot air is going to change that.

Still, no doubt it will give them hope, help them deny reality just a little longer.


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