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Post  bb1 Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:04 pm

The numties are in a lather, trying to convince themselves that St Goncalol is going to triumph by producing evidence from the 'withheld files'. However, all they are doing with remarks like this:

Jude Wilson Anyone know if Amaral can legally reveal evidence from the PJ files that have been withheld from the public?

Is prove, yet again, that they haven't actually bothered to read the PJ files. Because if they had, they would have seen this:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MISSING_PAGES.htm

MISSING PAGES FROM THE FILES ARE NOT IN THE DVD LINK  ORIGINAL FILES
MCCANN PJ FILES DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE MISSING FILES
With thanks to Albym :
As requested, the list of pages pulled from the files. I haven't done a full literal translation but essentially:

- Category A
relate to people identified during the inquiry whose possible link to the events is extremely unlikely (the most tenuous) and whose right to privacy would be infringed if their personal information were left on file (basically the 'pervy percy' list).
- Category B
relate to crimestopper data with respect to sightings, the TV program having guaranteed anonymity.
- Category C
relate to information from people - often criminals or having a criminal history - that was volunteered by them and they should not be put at risk for having come forward.


You will notice that in the DVD forum Volume-by-Volume Index there are occasional notes on missing pages. Those that I have checked relate to pages withdrawn in accordance with these instructions.


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The only person with anything to fear from the contents of the withheld files is Amaral himself. He, after all, is the one who didn't properly investigate assorted convicted child rapists and similar scum hanging around the area.

Naturally, Scotland Yard and the McCanns will have complete versions of these files.
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Post  Pedro Silva Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:39 pm

I agree with this:

"The only person with anything to fear from the contents of the withheld files is Amaral himself. He, after all, is the one who didn't properly investigate assorted convicted child rapists and similar scum hanging around the area.

Naturally, Scotland Yard and the McCanns will have complete versions of these files."
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Post  bb1 Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:15 pm

The deluded hater fools should also read this:

http://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2013/08/07/another-myth-busted-fake-money-photo/

And other entries in the blog, debunking the garbage they believe.

They should pay especially close attention to the thread about the non-existent 'lichen'.
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Post  bb1 Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:47 pm

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2058.90

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Re: Why did Amaral and the PJ designate the McCanns and Murat as official suspects?
« Reply #92 on: Today at 03:31:03 PM »


Quote from: TTSOFAFM on Today at 03:23:53 PM
I think after reading the following sentence from the translation

There is nothing suggestive at all and we can clearly agree that by publishing these facts could/may (take your pick) harm the investigation. Amaral knew that and what he did was beyond contempt.

No matter how you look at this, 'the ace up his sleeve', if Amaral was holding onto information that was not in the files and made part of the investigation, then he clearly was not fit to be a police officer. No Officer should hold back information that could help find a missing child and solve a crime.

If anyone holds information back that could have solved this case and help find Madeleine McCann, then in my eyes they should feel the full weight of the law for hindering a police investigation.


And spend a long time in jail.
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:29 am

The hounders really ought to read the forensic reports in the police files, too, as they are convinced 'body fluids' were found in the car the McCanns hired weeks after Madeleine disappeared. They might not come out with such bollox about Kate's statement to Leveson, then.

Truth of the Lie to be published in England - UPDATE article from 2008
Post  Châtelaine Yesterday at 8:10 pm


Hobs wrote:

[...] "There were no body fluids"

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And that's where perjury starts [IMO, of course]

Really? Then why can't they list the 'body fluids' that were found? Oh wait, I know - because there weren't any.

Their ignorance of demonstrable, provable FACT is astounding. Not that anyone cares greatly any more; they have about as much grasp of reality as Flat Earthers, which makes them totally irrelevant, and only of interest as the cabaret.
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:32 am

Incidentally, why does reverse speech expert and hounder soothsayer hobnob never turn its hand to 'analysing' the hisses and burbles which emit from Goncalol?

Or did, before he went into hiding along with Morais and co?
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:24 pm

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I wonder if the #McCann s have seen the missing files or will it come as a  complete shock when Snr Amaral produces them?


Deluded fool. rofl rofl rofl rofl 

Of course the McCanns have seen the withheld files, why wouldn't they?

But why would Gonc have seen them? He was kicked off the case in autumn 2007, so if anyone has passed them to him, then that person is in rather a lot of trouble.

Anyway, Amoral almost certainly hasn't seen them, or the contents would have blown off his desk, out the window, and into the arms of a waiting CdM journo.
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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:32 pm

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I think Mrs 'invited' Melchior Gomes to give evidence so that she could be sure that the PJ was not withholding any evidence from her about the case.


And boy oh boy, did that backfire when he told the Court that sex-related names & facts were deliberately left out.

Meaning, they are there, they are available; the PJ has them, and now we all know they have them.
Take a deep breath, all those concerned!
You're all in the pipeline to full disclosure;

When the time comes


Where have they been for the last FIVE years if they think that's a big deal? Everyone knows what's in the withheld files, it's never been a mystery.

The only mystery has been why the tick-tock squad thought that those sections would Crack The Case, along with Gonc's non-existent Ace.
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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:11 pm


Meaning, they are there, they are available; the PJ has them, and now we all know they have them.

How on earth can anyone who fancies themselves as some kind of 'case expert' have failed to notice the very clear statements in the PJ files about what has been withheld, at some point in the past five years?

No wonder they can't understand difficult stuff like 'evidence'.
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Post  lily Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:12 pm

Oh no. Another hounder disappointed again. flower 
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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:16 pm

It's so dumb, it's in a class of its own, Lily. There's never been a mystery about what is withheld, it's been a matter of record for FIVE YEARS.

I would suggest that the reason the matter came up was to make it crystal clear that there was no 'smoking gun' in the withheld files, no imaginary Ace for Gonc to play.
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Post  lily Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:40 pm

Bonny, see what you have done? Shocked The hounders have to keep their hopes up and you aren't helping........

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