Re: Forkers in new outbreak of carpet-chewing over TV programme

**crazytony** Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:49 pm

The best time to view someone and judge if they have lied is the first interview in front of the cameras. So what was the situation Prof Leal viewed of the McCanns?

**bb1** Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:51 pm

Pervnumties organising hatemail:

Amanda Tennyson
Ive just spoke to ITV with regard to the content of last nights show The lying game -crimes that shook Britain . I said i had a dispute with the information that was relayed in the programme. They told me it was made by an independent company 'Shine' which we all knew and if we want to complain we write to ITV in the first instance, they will then pass the complaints to shine. Here's the addresses viewerservices@itv.com or write to viewer services, ITV plc, 22 Gas Street, Birmingham B1 2JT. I think we should ALL write and ask them 'how they can come to that conclusion that the MCcanns were 100% innocent with absolutely no evidence to back it up? And to state that it would seem the information was designed to manipulate to public without 'said' evidence to back it up. Can we all please write? Im away to do it just now.

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Amy Godfrey Hello

I am writing to complain about a false statement that was aired on last nights programme on ITV- "The Lying Game".

It was stated that the McCanns are "100% innocent". How can this be stated when the investigation is ongoing? Have Scotland Yard given permission for this to be stated? They were 2 of the only 3 official suspects in the case, so to state they are innocent without a scrap of back up is immoral.

Im also wondering how your prodcers managed to miss the hundreds of video clips of the McCanns exhibiting less than favourable body language and cues?

A response would be greatly appreciated

Sent from my iPhone

I'm sure someone will let the recipients of the hate mail know that these creatures are NOT genuine 'members of the public', and that it's only Amaral supporters who are attacking them.

**bb1** Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:52 pm

crazytony wrote:The best time to view someone and judge if they have lied is the first interview in front of the cameras. So what was the situation Prof Leal viewed of the McCanns?

That would be the statement they made to the media hours after Madeleine was abducted, Tony.

**crazytony** Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:55 pm

Viewing the first video, that would have given her all she needed to make a decision

**bb1** Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:00 pm

I am sure both Professor Leal and the producers of the programme knew they would be on the receiving end of the usual hate mail from the usual suspects, Tony - the McCann-hating Amaral supporters are as predictable as Pavlov's dogs.

One of the things that seems to have come out of the programme is that liars assume everyone else is lying - which sums the haters up perfectly.

**bb1** Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:41 pm

Amanda Tennyson Amy Godfrey thankyou, this is the only way can fight them back.if we all do it, it may make national news. 20,000 people complain about a programm, talk about backfiring. lets go people.

Hasn't it dawned yet that most of that '20,000' consists of socks and people added en masse without their knowledge? That their real membership is a tenth of that, and active members even less?

Why do they think their fundraisers and petitions always fail?

**bb1** Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:46 pm

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/topic4930-1250.html

The fact that this dopey mare who is asking everyone to complain doesn't even understand on what basis Dr Leal made her statement tells us just how bright she is and just how far her complaint is likely to get her. When she calms down and starts to understand what the programme was all about she might realise what a fool she looks with her pathetic complaint.

Quite.

**crazytony** Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:47 pm

For their sakes I sincerely hope they have not sent a torrent of emails to the Professor. The Uni's IT specialists are on standby to trace.

**bb1** Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:00 pm

Good; these morons do it every single time anyone says something they don't approve of. They're no better than stormtrooper thugs.

**bb1** Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:07 pm

Lisa White Just a suggestion but perhaps a post could be put up for everyone to copy & paste .. So they receiving the same one over & over .. I'm only suggesting this for people like myself who could no way put a compliant so well as some of the people above have .. It could then be shared & more people I think would use a pre written complaint & submit .. Perhaps for both OFCOM & ITV ? x

That's what to do, keep on digging that nice big hole for yourselves.

**lily** Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:22 pm

Their behavior is out of pure desperation and is doomed to failure. Which we know but they don't seem to learn. biggrin

**bb1** Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:36 pm

A perfect example of how stupid they are - snipped from a long, incoherent rant some haternumty has fired off:

. As a broadcaster of programmes in the public interest, I am upset that ITV have chosen to show such a biased account in isolation. Perhaps ITV would consider showing another documentary with another expert stating categorically that the McCanns were 100% guilty of involvement in their daughter’s disappearance?

1. Whether they like it or not, in the real world, people KNOW the McCanns are innocent of any crime. Not think, KNOW.

2. ITV are not in the business of making malicious, false accusations about innocent people - that's the domain of haters, pitchforkers and moronic lynch mobs.

**lily** Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:30 pm

Poor widdle hater. Not fair that the TV stations do that to them. They do it on purpose, you know, just to annoy them. Wink

**bb1** Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:35 pm

A most excellent reply from Dr Leal to some hatemailing numty:

''I am very well acquainted with the case and I totally disagree that there is "plenty of evidence to say the opposite" ! Unfortunately irresponsible and heartless news reporters made up claims that were simply not true. Despite the fact that these people even admit they told lies ( see for example Leveson enquiry) the rubbish they Initially wrote is what seems to stay in some peoples minds( in psychology we call this ' belief perseverance effect' ) . That , coupled with a Portuguese policeman who has an axe to grind ( because he was sacked for telling lies to the press about the enquiry) still spouting nonsense has not helped. As I said in the program , people also tend to look for the wrong signs when detecting deception. An innocent person who is upset and falsely accused WILL react with nervous/ emotional behaviour. If you can try and think of any time you have been wrongly accused of something , how did you feel?
I have formed my opinion that they are innocent based on the verifiable facts surrounding the case, rather than media conjecture. I am aware this is a contentious case and as such you are not the only person to contact me ; some have cited or attached what they mistakingly believe to be facts ( i.e. that non verbal displays indicate guilt or citing libellous press reports or anecdotal social network lies) .
Best Wishes,
Sharon Leal'

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anecdotal social network lies

Love it!

Do you know, the McCann-haters are so stupid, they're getting in a lather this morning over a Mirror opinion piece

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddy-mccann-cop-adds-insults-195133

The morons can't even read the date:

Jan 16 2010

Mutton wants to know:

Unbelievable! Are the Mirror accepting comments I wonder?

I doubt it, as it's four years old.

More reading and less pitchforking and lynchmobbing might benefit them greatly.

**bb1** Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:56 pm

Hohonumty:

Sue Tinsley
I have had a reply from ITV responding to the complaint I sent them regarding claiming that the McCanns are 100% innocent on their programme the Crimes that fooled Britain. Here goes :

Thank you for contacting ITV and your comments on the programme The Lying Game - Crimes That Fooled Britain.

The programme was about criminals who fooled the police and public into thinking that they were not suspects in crimes that they were later convicted for. The programme featured a number of experts who specialise in examining 'the science of lying'. These experts pointed out tell-tale signs of lying that betrayed convicted liars such as Ian Huntley and Stuart Hazell.

In the part of the programme that referred to the McCanns, the expert Sharon Leal, described a number of people such as the McCanns who were, at times, considered to be suspects. Leal goes on to say "There's been a lot of controversy about whether or not the McCanns are innocent or guilty. My point of view is that they are 100% innocent." Leal clearly expresses this point as her opinion. Furthermore it has been confirmed by the investigating authorities that the McCanns are no longer considered suspects.

We are therefore satisfied that we have complied with our legal and regulatory obligations in relation to this programme.

I can confirm your comments have been noted here at ITV Viewer Services.

May I take this opportunity to thank you for taking the time to contact us here at ITV Viewer Services.

If we can be of further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us.

Furthermore it has been confirmed by the investigating authorities that the McCanns are no longer considered suspects.

Do you think the haters, hounders and lynchmobbers will grasp that if it's in Very Big Letters? No?

**bb1** Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:46 pm

More mockery of stupid people:

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post210721.html#p210721

Re: Hello Numptiz. We iz laughin at youz.

**lily** Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:32 pm

some have cited or attached what they mistakingly believe to be facts ( i.e. that non verbal displays indicate guilt

Is she referring to this that the so called ex-policeman sent to her?

https://servimg.com/view/16776972/297

**bb1** Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:35 pm

Did dirtymac really send that garbage? Why didn't he send her a clip of Head Hounder lying his head off outside the Courts of Justice, if he wanted to show her a liar?

**bb1** Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:49 pm

Cally Kate Jones Got a reply today saying someone will be in touch in next 5 days lol anyone else had this? I also contacted Jeremy Kyle and asked if I can take the McCanns on for a lie detector test, they hung up lol xx

Nothing says LOSER like Kyle hanging up on you.

**Lamplighter** Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:00 pm

bb1 wrote:

Nothing says LOSER like Kyle hanging up on you.

Forkers in new outbreak of carpet-chewing over TV programme - Page 2 Z

**bb1** Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:12 pm

Don Symons ‏@AliBumin 2h
#mccann Sharon Leal - please use the Silent Talker programme on interviews with Goncalo Amaral & the McCanns if you want to know who`s lying

No need to bother the woman, we all know the answer.

It's the disgraced ex-policeman with the CRIMINAL conviction in a Portuguese court for perjury, that also has a CIVIL conviction for defrauding his own brother.

There's your liar.

**lily** Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:37 pm

bb1 wrote:Did dirtymac really send that garbage? Why didn't he send her a clip of Head Hounder lying his head off outside the Courts of Justice, if he wanted to show her a liar?

Yes, Bonny. This is his post and he put the link in an earlier one.

Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,
PeterMac Yesterday at 1:05 pm

I have just sent a copy to Dr Leal, for her information.

He appears to put tremendous credibility in that. Can you imagine all the crooks who got let off by petey? Worse yet, innocents found guilty?

You don't think he did an early retirement like someone else do you?

Oh dear.....he could never agree that Bennett is a liar who appeared in front of and was sentenced by Judge Tugendhat. No...no.....no. biggrin

**lily** Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:40 pm

Lamplighter wrote:
bb1 wrote:

Nothing says LOSER like Kyle hanging up on you.

Everyone knows that the forkers are losers. Word gets around you know. It's a small business and typically you pretty much know everyone in it.

That's why I'm surprised that they haven't figured it out yet. Wink

**bb1** Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:13 pm

Su Laws I definitely don't like her Lisa White. The second email I received from her had a disclaimer attached so I can't paste it word for word, but in so many words she thinks my cleaner is probably more intelligent and that everything I believe is rubbish. The tone is unpleasant and DEFENSIVE. Communicating with me (a pleb?) takes up too much of her time so she won't be doing it any more. Apart from being stupid, she's also a nasty piece of work. How do these people get jobs teaching? She needs to get out into the world.
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Kevin Marshall She sounds a right arrogant twat. Anyone who issues a disclaimer so readily in an email shows she averts to unwarranted threats due to a lack of testable ability
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Debby Reynolds If she is correct Su Laws she wouldn't need a disclaimer and would have nothing to fear from you copying her answer would she?

rofl

Good for Prof Leal - hasn't it occurred to those morons that she was none too impressed by them:

a. Spamming her with hatemail.

b. Posting her correspondence on the internet.

As for the cleaner being brighter than the numty - a floormop would have more brain cells than that shower of thickos.

**bb1** Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:16 pm

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post210899.html#p210899

Dr Leal to numty, quote:

I base my opinion on verifiable facts, sadly there is a lot of false and unsubstantiated rhetoric out on social networks / press / sacked police etc .

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