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Right, that's that done. Contrary to the crazed rantings of the Bitters, there was not a 'ring of steel' at the polling station. There was a rather damp policewoman having a blether with everyone, but I don't think that counts...
A lot of people coming and going, and almost all of them cheery YES-es. One unfortunate local councillor representing Oh Noes, but she's Lib Dem, so no-one really bothered arguing about politics.
The few Bitters I saw looked, well, bitter, and rather guilty....I wouldn't be surprised if a few Noes thought, Oh, f*ck it, and voted YES in the privacy of the polling booth.
I don't know where these 'shy Noes' are - they're so shy, they seem to be downright recluses. Time will, as ever tell - around about 3am, I think.
Oh, and there had been a 50% turnout by 2pm. Which is high.
A lot of people coming and going, and almost all of them cheery YES-es. One unfortunate local councillor representing Oh Noes, but she's Lib Dem, so no-one really bothered arguing about politics.
The few Bitters I saw looked, well, bitter, and rather guilty....I wouldn't be surprised if a few Noes thought, Oh, f*ck it, and voted YES in the privacy of the polling booth.
I don't know where these 'shy Noes' are - they're so shy, they seem to be downright recluses. Time will, as ever tell - around about 3am, I think.
Oh, and there had been a 50% turnout by 2pm. Which is high.
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It is a well known fact that voters will tell the lobbyists outside the polling station what they want to hear and then do the opposite! Also, some of the older, ie more vulnerable voters, may be apprehensive of the reaction of the NOs and also Westminster MPs if this goes against them. And then there is possible physical reaction should the NOs lose. It has always been an uneasy partnership between the Scots and the English. LL
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They're everywhere.
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It has always been an uneasy partnership between the Scots and the English.
I have been utterly sickened by the Bitters, and Farage and his ilk, trying to make YES about being anti-English, LL. What? There are Asians for YES, Poles for Yes, English for YES - every kind of new Scot you can imagine working for a YES vote.
As I've said before about international matters, there's a vast difference between the people of a country and their governments, which are generally horrible these days.
Are the people of England given a fair shake by Westminster? No, they aren't.
I hope our friends in the south take heed of the grassroots movement in Scotland and realise they DON'T have to take it any more. Why shouldn't England be federalised? The needs of Cornish folk, or the North, aren't being met by Westminster.
I agree about it turning nasty if the Noes lose; Glasgow is the danger spot, IMO. There are still too many religious bigots like Orangemen and Britnats there - as shown by the attack on the community centre a few nights ago, and the trouble they tried to start in George Square last night.
The rest of the country grew out of that years ago.
I have been utterly sickened by the Bitters, and Farage and his ilk, trying to make YES about being anti-English, LL. What? There are Asians for YES, Poles for Yes, English for YES - every kind of new Scot you can imagine working for a YES vote.
As I've said before about international matters, there's a vast difference between the people of a country and their governments, which are generally horrible these days.
Are the people of England given a fair shake by Westminster? No, they aren't.
I hope our friends in the south take heed of the grassroots movement in Scotland and realise they DON'T have to take it any more. Why shouldn't England be federalised? The needs of Cornish folk, or the North, aren't being met by Westminster.
I agree about it turning nasty if the Noes lose; Glasgow is the danger spot, IMO. There are still too many religious bigots like Orangemen and Britnats there - as shown by the attack on the community centre a few nights ago, and the trouble they tried to start in George Square last night.
The rest of the country grew out of that years ago.
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Max Keiser @maxkeiser 3h
'No' campaign has only empty threats on offer. What a sad bunch of dried out prunes these WM toffs be. #indyref
I love Max.
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Amanda Craig @MandaCraig · 1h
My Da, who has been a strong Labour No voter, changed his mind an hour before he left for the polling station today and voted Yes. So proud.
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Roger Mullin @RogMull · 1h
Lady in tears of joy in Kirkcaldy "My 38 yearkld son went to vote no. Came back home crying he couldnt do it and voted Yes " wow. #Yes
'No' campaign has only empty threats on offer. What a sad bunch of dried out prunes these WM toffs be. #indyref
I love Max.
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Amanda Craig @MandaCraig · 1h
My Da, who has been a strong Labour No voter, changed his mind an hour before he left for the polling station today and voted Yes. So proud.
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Roger Mullin @RogMull · 1h
Lady in tears of joy in Kirkcaldy "My 38 yearkld son went to vote no. Came back home crying he couldnt do it and voted Yes " wow. #Yes
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That's not a thing you see very often.
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Lovely weather for it on Yell.
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I am an Austro-Orcadian, I worked for many years in London, owned property in England; I do not hate the English, many of my friends are English and I value them, but the likes of Farage etc make me sick to my stomach. They don't care about England, they only seek to wreak havoc and misery and lining their own pockets. LLI have been utterly sickened by the Bitters, and Farage and his ilk, trying to make YES about being anti-English, LL. What? There are Asians for YES, Poles for Yes, English for YES - every kind of new Scot you can imagine working for a YES vote.
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Wonderful. I just hope I don't fall asleep before the vote results come in.
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I do hope the Mail will be reporting on abuse like this from the Rule Britannia squad:
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bb1 wrote:I do hope the Mail will be reporting on abuse like this from the Rule Britannia squad:
Goodness me. Well I never.
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Catalans are in front of St Giles in Edinburgh demonstrating for their own referendum. Amazing stuff happening today. #indyref
Yes - the future is calling.
Catalans are in front of St Giles in Edinburgh demonstrating for their own referendum. Amazing stuff happening today. #indyref
Yes - the future is calling.
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They don't care about England, they only seek to wreak havoc and misery and lining their own pockets.
Quite, LL. Farage, and the Little Englanders as typified by the Daily Mail, don't grasp that Scots just don't think like them.
We don't see a muslim and think, OMG, a brown person!!!!! Is he going to chop my head off???? No, we say hello, moan about the weather, or whatever. We don't hate Poles and think they're stealing our jobs, we don't hate Russians and think they're about to invade us and steal our....whatever.
We do, however, when we see a Tory grandee sweeping down on us take it for granted that he or she is going to rifle our pockets and bring nothing but ruin. They always have done.
I've noticed an awful lot of our friends in the south don't grasp that Scotland was an independent nation longer than it has been tied to England by the Act of Union; that pre-Union Scotland traded all over Europe.
And for sheer class, I don't think any politician will EVER beat these words from Madame Ecosse, Winnie Ewing:
"I want to start with the words that I have always wanted either to say or to hear someone else say - the Scottish Parliament, which adjourned on March 25, 1707, is hereby reconvened."
Quite, LL. Farage, and the Little Englanders as typified by the Daily Mail, don't grasp that Scots just don't think like them.
We don't see a muslim and think, OMG, a brown person!!!!! Is he going to chop my head off???? No, we say hello, moan about the weather, or whatever. We don't hate Poles and think they're stealing our jobs, we don't hate Russians and think they're about to invade us and steal our....whatever.
We do, however, when we see a Tory grandee sweeping down on us take it for granted that he or she is going to rifle our pockets and bring nothing but ruin. They always have done.
I've noticed an awful lot of our friends in the south don't grasp that Scotland was an independent nation longer than it has been tied to England by the Act of Union; that pre-Union Scotland traded all over Europe.
And for sheer class, I don't think any politician will EVER beat these words from Madame Ecosse, Winnie Ewing:
"I want to start with the words that I have always wanted either to say or to hear someone else say - the Scottish Parliament, which adjourned on March 25, 1707, is hereby reconvened."
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/18/scotland-yes-campaign-voting-british-state?CMP=twt_gu
Do Scots want to huddle behind the clumsy, centralised British bureaucracy, or join the network of nations? Now the age of empires is over, do we want to stay on a Titanic, which once brutally ruled the waves? Or is it time to join Europe’s flotilla of more human-sized countries, more responsive to each of our needs, but capable of huddling together in a storm?
That's a good piece, that Gets It. Fingers crossed, we're all heading for the lifeboats.
Do Scots want to huddle behind the clumsy, centralised British bureaucracy, or join the network of nations? Now the age of empires is over, do we want to stay on a Titanic, which once brutally ruled the waves? Or is it time to join Europe’s flotilla of more human-sized countries, more responsive to each of our needs, but capable of huddling together in a storm?
That's a good piece, that Gets It. Fingers crossed, we're all heading for the lifeboats.
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Mika Minio-Paluello @mikaminio · 3h
A Labour #NO canvasser outside polling station in Govanhill admitted he's paid to do it AND he secretly voted #YES himself.
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The Yes Man @KristoferKeane · 51m
The single most union-supporting, union flag-waving, armed forces guy I know just confided in me he switched to Yes in the polling booth!
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Just been told by Italian journo that rest of Europe sees Scotland as heroes - standing up to a bankrupt, corrupt establishment. Och shucks
Mika Minio-Paluello @mikaminio · 3h
A Labour #NO canvasser outside polling station in Govanhill admitted he's paid to do it AND he secretly voted #YES himself.
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The single most union-supporting, union flag-waving, armed forces guy I know just confided in me he switched to Yes in the polling booth!
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Just been told by Italian journo that rest of Europe sees Scotland as heroes - standing up to a bankrupt, corrupt establishment. Och shucks
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standing up to a bankrupt, corrupt establishment.
That's how I see you too. Sounds familiar......
That's how I see you too. Sounds familiar......
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https://twitter.com/AlexSalmond/status/512574018583805953
Craig Sommerville @craigs1974 4h
@AlexSalmond lots of voters being turned away in fife, saying they have already voted by post when they havent...
And no prizes for guessing where in Fife it's happening. Kirkcaldy. Gordon Brown's stomping ground.
Well, I don't think any of that occurred to us at the start of this journey, Lily, we really were just fighting for our wee bit hill and glen, but the whole world seems to be watching us now, and praying that this time, the good guys win, and the corrupt elites lose.....
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@AlexSalmond lots of voters being turned away in fife, saying they have already voted by post when they havent...
And no prizes for guessing where in Fife it's happening. Kirkcaldy. Gordon Brown's stomping ground.
Well, I don't think any of that occurred to us at the start of this journey, Lily, we really were just fighting for our wee bit hill and glen, but the whole world seems to be watching us now, and praying that this time, the good guys win, and the corrupt elites lose.....
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http://wingsoverscotland.com/us-now-or-never/#comments
So wait a minute has someone already voted for the Kirkcaldy people by post. Christ they were involved in the last postal vote rigging is this a real story
UK votes are pretty much unriggable; the only vulnerable spot is the postal voting system.
So wait a minute has someone already voted for the Kirkcaldy people by post. Christ they were involved in the last postal vote rigging is this a real story
UK votes are pretty much unriggable; the only vulnerable spot is the postal voting system.
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I particularly enjoyed this tweet on the trends map
“what will Scotland do when the oil runs out?”
I don’t know ask England, theirs runs out tomorrow
“what will Scotland do when the oil runs out?”
I don’t know ask England, theirs runs out tomorrow
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bb1 wrote:I particularly enjoyed this tweet on the trends map
“what will Scotland do when the oil runs out?”
I don’t know ask England, theirs runs out tomorrow
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Love it!
ETA:
Yes campaigners in Craigmillar, a suburb in the south east of Edinburgh, have built an impressive replica of the Statue of Liberty which is on proud display a few hundred yards from the polling station.
The area - which has been the focus of numerous regeneration projects in recent years due to its high levels of deprivation - is ringing with the sound of bagpipes thanks to Yes campaigners who have organised a series of flag-waving marches in an attempt to persuade locals to leave their houses and vote.
The Independent joined one which departed at 11am this morning, weaving its way through the streets led by Ryan Randall, a bagpiper whose instrument spewed fire.
He is from Las Vegas but has been in Scotland since July and was persuaded to take part. The march, entitled "the short walk to freedom", had the atmosphere of a friendly football crowd, with supporters shouting "Come on Scotland!"
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Well done, Lily, the guy with the fire-breathing pipes is from the great state of Nevada!
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Scottish Englishman @seap1geon 3h
#indyref Me & Mrs SE voted YES. As of tomorrow I'm going to be Scottish Lancastrian. No such thing as England; just a Tory conceit.
#indyref Me & Mrs SE voted YES. As of tomorrow I'm going to be Scottish Lancastrian. No such thing as England; just a Tory conceit.
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Well done, Lily, the guy with the fire-breathing pipes is from the great state of Nevada!
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