Re: 'UK police searches refused by Portuguese judge'

**bb1** Thu May 08, 2014 5:01 pm

Even worse, not only is she rich and successful, she's young-ish and attractive, has her own hair, that sort of thing.

BURN THE WITCH!!!!

**lily** Thu May 08, 2014 5:07 pm

Something they are not. rofl

**lily** Thu May 08, 2014 5:15 pm

4:18PM, THU 8 MAY 2014 MADELEINE MCCANN POLICE ARRIVE IN PORTUGAL
Portuguese air force helicopter used in Madeleine probe
Last updated Thu 8 May 2014
World Madeleine McCann Portugal
In the latest stage of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, police today commissioned a Portuguese air force helicopter to fly low over Praia da Luz taking photographs of areas of interest to the inquiry.

An Alouette helicopter was seen flying above the beach and other areas close to where Madeleine disappeared in May 2007.

It comes as work is planned to search the area around the holiday apartment the family were staying in.

Ground-penetrating radar is expected to be used to assess certain areas, including a road that had been dug up at the time 3-year-old Madeleine vanished.

British detectives are currently in the Algarve and this morning met with counterparts from the Policia Judiciaria.

Neither country's officers would offer a view on how the almost four-hour meeting went.
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-05-08/portuguese-air-force-helicopter-used-in-madeleine-probe/

**bb1** Thu May 08, 2014 5:23 pm

Thanks, Lily, maybe an aerial view will give them a better idea of what is possible and what isn't?

**bb1** Thu May 08, 2014 5:26 pm

Hounder:

Re: "Maddie cops to start digging at resort"
Post Poe Today
A buried body can be visible from the air as plants growing over the body will be more lush than those surrounding it but does anybody know how long for?

(I tried googling but just kept getting zombie stuff)

Google's cleverer than we thought - it knows when someone is a sicko ghoul.

**lily** Thu May 08, 2014 5:30 pm

Sorry

Obviously they have their very good reasons and must know what sorts of things they are looking for?

**bb1** Thu May 08, 2014 5:34 pm

Well really, why would anyone want to look at that sort of image unless they were a GHOUL?

**bb1** Thu May 08, 2014 5:59 pm

A forker rants:

After all this time and EXPENSE has SY even bothered to read the official Portuguese files? If they have, their reading comprehension skills are nil.

Tut tut! Have they forgotten - the Yard, like the McCanns, have the full files, professionally translated, not the Cherry-picked Dodgy Translations files? Pcorneater

**bb1** Thu May 08, 2014 8:28 pm

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post230507.html#p230507

Quote:

More importantly, why is it that so far it is only Portuguese media that have said the request was for dogs to be used?

A detail that the forkers on both sides of the pond are salivating over, as was completely predictable.

Someone familiar with the contents of the LoR has quite deliberately leaked that to the Portuguese press.

Yup. And Astro and co appear to be back to their old tricks, altering news stories as they 'translate' them.

**lily** Thu May 08, 2014 9:16 pm

bb1 wrote:A forker rants:

After all this time and EXPENSE has SY even bothered to read the official Portuguese files? If they have, their reading comprehension skills are nil.

Tut tut! Have they forgotten - the Yard, like the McCanns, have the full files, professionally translated, not the Cherry-picked Dodgy Translations files?

Is it inferring that it knows more than SY?

**bb1** Fri May 09, 2014 10:34 am

What have we this fine May morning? Why, the tick-tockers are still in a frenzy of pointless speculation, as it begins to sink in that as usual, reality is failing to match their ghoulish imaginings.

One of these days, it will dawn on them that taboids make up sh*t, and hatebloggers invent lies to get their egos stroked.

**bb1** Fri May 09, 2014 2:27 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27343604

Madeleine McCann: Search to begin on private land

Portuguese authorities have granted permission for one site in the town of Praia da Luz to be examined as part the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance, the BBC understands.

Permission has been granted for a "field operation" to begin on a section of private land, sources have said.

The Met Police, which is leading the investigation, declined to comment.

Met detectives are understood to have left Portugal after spending two days with Portuguese police in the Algarve.

BBC reporter Richard Bilton, in Praia da Luz, said Portuguese authorities had so far granted permission to begin a search on the land, which could begin in "days" or "weeks".

Investigative work
He said he had been told him that British teams want to conduct more searches, but have yet to make an official request, which could take "weeks" to process.

Metropolitan Police detectives have discussed a timetable for investigative work that Portuguese police will carry out for the British team, he added.

The development comes after reports suggested search teams were expected to start excavating sites in the Praia da Luz resort where Madeleine - then aged three - went missing on 3 May 2007.

Met Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley this week said "activity" was expected to begin in Portugal "in the coming weeks".

It also comes after Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, posted a statement on the Find Madeleine website on Thursday criticising "media interference" over newspaper speculation in the case.

They warned they were "dismayed" at speculation which could "potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether".

They added: "There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult."

"As Madeleine's parents, this just compounds our distress," they added.

The seventh anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance was marked on Saturday.

Scotland Yard launched a fresh investigation - codenamed Operation Grange - into Madeleine's disappearance last July.

In March, British police then said they were seeking an intruder who sexually abused five girls in Portugal between 2004 and 2006.

Detectives said the attacks happened in holiday villas occupied by UK families in the Algarve.

It'll be deeply ironic if the 'private land' is Murat's garden.

**lily** Fri May 09, 2014 2:35 pm

Yes it would, Bonny.

**bb1** Fri May 09, 2014 9:00 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-metropolitan-police-investigating-3519393

Met police investigating Madeleine McCann disappearance probe British paedophile link
May 09, 2014 17:28 By Russell Myers
An Algarve judge has yet to decide whether they can question eight people of varying nationality, including an intruder linked to a spate of sex attacks there

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are probing a theory that her abductor was a British holidaymaker.

Eight suspects Metropolitan Police cops applied to investigate include a British paedophile that was living on the Algarve when Madeleine went missing seven years ago, it was claimed today.

An Algarve judge has yet to decide on the application by the Met who believe an intruder linked to a spate of sex attacks on the Algarve may have snatched Madeleine.

The same judge recently banned British detectives from searching the homes of three former Ocean Club workers - but has approved the land searches and digs they requested across three sites in the town.

A local source said: “The eight people are of different nationalities and live on the Algarve.

“The British police want to question them as part of their line of investigation based on a sexual predator breaking into various houses.”

This shift in the investigation could mean Briton Raymond Hewlett, a convicted child rapist who was living on the Algarve when Maddie went missing, could once again in the frame.

The monster went to his death refusing to speak to investigators hunting for Madeleine McCann after he was sensationally linked to her disappearance.

The evil sex beast had been staying in their converted truck at a camping site near Praia da Luz at the time three-year-old Madeleine disappeared as her parents Kate and Gerry dined out with friends at the Ocean Club holiday complex.

British cops are also hunting another convicted child sex attacker Roderick Robinson, 77.

Our sister paper the Sunday Mirror revealed this week how vile Robinson was extradited from Portugal in 2010 to Australia where he was sentenced for abusing an eight-year-old girl.

Sources say he could have vital information concerning a paedophile ring in the Algarve while he was living there which could in turn be linked to Madeleine’s disappearance.

Scotland Yard detectives have previously spoken of their belief that a serial sex attacker on the Algarve could be behind the case.

They are linking 18 incidents when a male intruder broke into British families’ holiday villas between 2004 and 2010 and sexually assaulted nine girls with three near-misses.

One of the victims, a ten-year-old girl, was assaulted in Praia da Luz two years before Madeleine vanished from the resort.

Sources told local Portuguese media they thought the paedophile their Met colleagues are trying to identify may have been a British holidaymaker.

A source close to the investigation said: “A sex attacker is someone who acts compulsively.

“If he only struck in the summer and he hasn’t struck again, it’s probably because he doesn’t live here.”

But in a blow to the British police inquiry, it was also reported Portuguese police are now ready to discount any link between the sex attacks and Madeleine’s disappearance.

Porto-based detectives who led a cold case review into the seven year old mystery which led them to dead former Ocean Club worker Euclides Monteiro, are said to have concluded there is no evidence the Algarve sex attacker snatched Maddie.

Euclides’ widow Luisa Rodrigues has insisted her partner, a convicted burglar who died in a tractor accident in 2009, has nothing to do with Madeleine’s disappearance and was cleared of any involvement in the sex attacks after police questioning the year before he died.

**bb1** Fri May 09, 2014 9:04 pm

Stand by for paedo-pity from the McCann-hater - they just hate it when anyone suggests convicted child rapist Hewlett might have information...

Sources say he could have vital information concerning a paedophile ring in the Algarve while he was living there which could in turn be linked to Madeleine’s disappearance.

As sane people have been suggesting for a while.

And - look, more evidence the leaks are coming from Portugal.

A local source said:

Sources say

Sources told local Portuguese media

A source close to the investigation said:

**lily** Fri May 09, 2014 9:17 pm

Surprise.....surprise. mad

**Pedro Silva** Fri May 09, 2014 10:48 pm

My friends, this was taken from The Portugal News newspaper:

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/police-clash-over-madeleine/31487

**bb1** Fri May 09, 2014 11:23 pm

Police clash over Madeleine
BY BRENDAN DE BEER, IN NEWS · 08-05-2014 14:22:00 · 1 COMMENTS
Days after Kate and Gerry McCann publicly expressed their frustration at the slow pace of the investigation into the disappearance of their daughter here in Portugal, a high-ranking Scotland Yard detective has called on British journalists to exercise restraint in their reporting.

In a letter to news editors, Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley explained that while British police “do things very differently”, Portuguese police have threatened to suspend activity “if we provide any briefings or information on the work they are undertaking on our behalf”.
This letter comes a day after Portuguese police questioned the manner in which Scotland Yard conduct their investigations.
Speaking to The Portugal News, a detective admitted: “To be sincere, it is not easy to understand them. But I’m sure they know what they are doing”, when asked about the modus operandi used by British police since the multi-million pound investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, codenamed Operation Grange, was signed off by Prime Minister David Cameron.
Portuguese police further questioned whether the latest revelations to emerge in the British press “which come after the anniversaryof the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, have anything to do with the European elections and the need for the Metropolitan Police Service to prove to those who created this team that they have made some progress?”
Regarding question marks raised over the tactics employed by Portuguese police, the source said: “We are completely committed to finding out what happened to Madeleine McCann. Our approach is humble and very honest. We have a complete notion of the difficulty and the importance this investigation has to all concerned and the need to obtain results. We are firmly committed to discovering what happened. However, there are completely different ways of approaching the investigation. We prefer to talk less and do more.”
In the only substantiated comment to come from the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) this week, Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley wrote: “We will not be able to provide any information concerning the activity because ultimately it could mean the work stops. We respect the Portuguese position as we would expect them to respect our position if we were carrying out work on their behalf in the UK.”
He added that “whilst the process is more bureaucratic and slower than we would wish you will recall at recent briefings” that Scotland Yard was increasingly optimistic of that activity starting soon.
He further explained he believed that “activity will occur in forthcoming weeks.”
Reports of excavations and digging in Praia da Luz have dominated the news this week, despite the fact that no official confirmation has come through.

Police stressed in comments to The Portugal News that contrary to these latest reports both in Britain and Portugal, no investigative work on he ground has been scheduled with regards to the investigation.
Reports this week revealed that the Attorney-General’s office has authorised digging in Praia da Luz, but said no date for these operations had been set.
Portuguese police reasoned that “if they are planning excavations, it means that they are looking for a body.”
As for reports that the digging could also serve to rule out the possibility that Madeleine is not alive, he questioned: “How many holes do you have to dig to rule out the existence of a body?”
He continued: “Why does the Metropolitan Police Service want to dig up holes if they believe Madeleine is still alive? How do you prove that somebody is alive by digging up holes?”
The police source reaffirmed an earlier position that the case was re-opened by Portuguese authorities to investigate a series of sexual assaults on children in the Algarve between 2004 and 2010.
“This was not uniquely to investigate Euclides Monteiro”, he explained, referring to the Cape Verdean national who died in a tractor accident on a golf course in Lagos, near Luz, back in 2009.
He did however confirm that a Portimão judge had refused “a number” of formal requests by Scotland Yard in the search for Madeleine.
The source explained that some requests by Scotland Yard detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have been “rejected due to a total lack of foundation.”
The ruling was made by a Portuguese criminal judge tasked with approving or refusing investigatory acts applied for by the Metropolitan Police Service in the third and latest international letter of request sent to Lisbon earlier this year.

t is believed that a total of 278 separate elements were presented for judicial appreciation as a result of this third letter which was received by the Portuguese Attorney-General’s Office in March.
These developments coincide with the arrival of a team of British detectives in Faro on Wednesday evening. Led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, he met with PJ Police Regional Director Mota Carmo on Thursday in the Algarve capital.
Police said the meeting was only “a scheduled routine meeting” in the line of several that have been held since late last year.

**bb1** Fri May 09, 2014 11:27 pm

Portuguese police have some nerve hurling accusations at the Yard - here's another one running his mouth off:

Speaking to The Portugal News, a detective admitted

Oh did he now?

Police stressed in comments to The Portugal News

That was thoughtful of 'police'. mad

And what's this rubbish?

Portuguese police further questioned whether the latest revelations to emerge in the British press “which come after the anniversaryof the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, have anything to do with the European elections and the need for the Metropolitan Police Service to prove to those who created this team that they have made some progress?”

What? WTF has the Met got to do with the European elections? That's the sort of conspiraloon sh*te Gonzo comes out with....

**lily** Sat May 10, 2014 12:06 am

Even I know that that has nothing to do with it.

Someone is worried.....

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