So, Gonzo's filed an appeal?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/463136/New-slap-face-Maddie-parents-Cop-wins-fight-libel-case-appeal

New slap in the face for Maddie parents: Cop wins fight for libel case appeal
AN EX-POLICE officer fined for claiming Madeleine McCann’s parents were behind her disappearance has won the right to an appeal.

By Chief crime correspondent Jerry Lawton / Published 5th September 2015

Goncalo Amaral was ordered to pay £357,000 in libel damages to Kate and Gerry McCann after claiming that they covered up their daughter’s death.

But now he has been told the court of appeal will hear his case.

Mr Amaral headed the initial investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine, then aged three, in Portugal in 2007. T

he latest twist means the McCanns, of Rothley, Leics, may have to return to Portugal to give evidence again.

A source close to the couple said last night: “Kate and Gerry are exasperated by this. It just drags on and on and causes them even more anguish.”

Last night it was revealed Scotland Yard had made a new request to the Portuguese authorities for further cooperation in the case.

Sums up what a nasty PoS Gonzo is.

Perfectly said.

Not much to say really. Under Portuguese law, Amaral has a right to appeal the decision of the court, as is right and proper.

There are three possibilities

• That the appeal count will agree the original verdict in which case no further appeals will be allowed
  
  That the appeal court modify the verdict, in which either party can appeal.
  
  That the appeal count overturn the original verdict, in which either party can appeal (probably the McCanns)
  
  

The wording of the court documents that the appeal does not stay the decision. To understand this one need to consider the differences between English civil law and European civil law.

In simple terms:

In England, one must seek permission to appeal. If granted, then execution of the decision of the lower count is suspended until the appeal is heard.

In Europe, including Portugal, the right to appeal is automatic. But execution of the decision is not suspended.

There is a logic in this if you look for it.

In England, one must demonstrate pretty sound grounds for an appeal, and it is therefore logical that the judgement is suspended until the appeal is heard.

In Europe, the right to appeal is automatic (although one must show the grounds upon which the appeal is based - not a very high hurdle). But judgement is not suspended - this is to prevent a losing party using the appeals process to "kick the can down the road" for a few months.
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What does it mean for this case? Under English law Amaral would have had to show specific grounds for his appeal. And if granted the court decision to ban the book and DVD may have been suspended.

Under Portuguese law, the appeal is in effect a matter of course, and in the meantime the decision to ban book and DVD sales holds.

Hope this helps!

Many thanks, Jean-Pierre. I will not pretend to understand Portuguese law, but there really doesn't seem to be anything in it to justify the hysteria and bouncing in certain quarters...

Hounder:

PJGA can put an end to all speculation. Why dont they?
More than €50.000 donated.
I'd like to know what for.
Freedom of speech, important to all, fair enough.
Impossible for GA to finance his fight for (our) freedom.

Finally, at long last, news of the appeal.
Two scraps of paper, nice screenshots, and a 'thank you, dear friends'.
What for exactly,
nobody knows.
No translation, no explanation.
With €50.000 in the go-fund-me-account there's no excuse to not inform
all of us that donated.

Time for the PJGA to come clear.
Confusion is not good.
Justice doesn't prosper in the dark.

They should all be asking why no accounts have been produced for years. But on the other hand - do I actually care if they want to throw their cash into that lost cause? No.

From here, it does sound like they just might have been played for fools.....

Some excellent points here on the subject of the Gonzo Scrounge Fund:

http://www.stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=7689&start=800


Re: GoFundMe

Quotes:

a proper statement of use instead of "ta muchly but don't ask questions" should be forthcoming.

And while they are at it.....an explanation as to why Leanne Baulch seems to be distancing herself from the GFM.

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And surely any monies his account receives would be immediately taken to pay off his old debts....of which there is a few by all accounts....


Yes - like all the costs of his failed case against Correia and others involved in Portuguese human rights work. I shudder to think how much that cost, as Gonzo repeatedly stalled that, just as he stalled the libel case.

Oh, how we laughed when the Faro judge ordered a search party for Gonzo, after he falsely claimed to be living in a Lisbon police station.

Doesn't it seem like Gonzo's backers are embarrassed to come clean about the money they have raised?

Pamela Gurney From Joana: If I may, even simpler than all that: the ones who appealed against the judge ruling (GA's lawyer) invoked nullities in the said judgement, those were not found/accepted by the lady judge. Still, the appeal was accepted because the decision, according to law, is appealable and was brought within the proper period of time. ps. “transitado em julgado” - res judicata (latin) meaning a decision has "became final and conclusive".

Doesn't sound too good for Gonzo, if even Morais thinks he's a lost cause.

Is that why they have gone silent?

Quite possibly, Lily - you'll never get the truth from Gonzo supporters.

Or maybe even they have tired of debating the mendacity of dogs, the movement of curtains, and the meaning of ear-scratching for the millionth time.

Except the diehards, maybe?

Oh dearie me! Just when 'donations' were flagging, and dirtymac has been wittering about the need for large, attention-attracting donations,  a large, attention-attracting  donation has been made.

Naturally, the McCann-haters are having orgasms.

Portuguese first:
£4,000
Anônimo Anônimo
2 hours ago
De um grupo anónimo de funcionários de empresas e do meio legal que estão estupefactos com o que aconteceu. Portugal e a Grã-Bretanha são velhos aliados, mas os McCann e os tablóides britânicos tentaram separar-nos. Todos vemos perfeitamente aquilo que estão a tentar fazer, congelando os bens do Dr Amaral para o impedir de se defender, enquanto usam os milhões que lhes foram doados pelo público para o processar. Isto não é justiça. Isto está errado. Os McCann perderam 5 das suas 7 pretensões, mas a imprensa britânica não o reportou, nem tão-pouco reportou as palavras duras utilizadas pela juíza em relação às suas supostas 'provas'. Têm de pagar 60% das custas, mas a imprensa britânica não o reportou. Esta pequena doação destina-se a assegurar que este venenoso acto de ódio não seja bem sucedido. Acreditamos que um dia a verdade será contada, embora seja improvável que sejam os pais a fazê-lo.

£ 4.000
Anonymous
2 hours ago
An anonymous group of employees of companies and legal means that are stunned by what happened. Portugal and Britain are old allies, but the McCanns and the British tabloids tried to separate us. All see perfectly what we are trying to do, freezing the assets of Dr Amaral to prevent him from defending himself, while using the millions they have been donated by the public to the process. This is not justice. This is wrong. The McCanns have lost 5 of their 7 pretensions, but the British press not reported, nor even reported the harsh words used by the judge in relation to his alleged 'evidence'. They have to pay 60% of costs, but the British press not reported. This small donation is intended to ensure that this venomous hatred act is not successful. We believe that one day the truth will be told, although it is unlikely to be parents to do so.

Isn't that astounding? A supposed 'donation' from a country that uses the euro is exactly £4,000 in sterling - and why is it written in Gonzo-ese?

Why wasn't it donated to the Portuguese scrounge fund?

Do the haters seriously not see anything odd about Portuguese people allegedly donating to what started as a UK fund, since removed without explanation to be run by unnamed people in Portimao?

Never mind, I am sure Hounder Churnalist Natasha Donn will be along shortly to explain it all.

Incidentally, why do the haters always come out with this 'old allies' shtick? All sorts of people have been 'allies' when it suited them over the centuries - it's meaningless.

But hey, isn't it handy that this 'donation' came along just as the haters were reduced to cloning people who wouldn't ive Gonzo the dirt from under his nails, to hide the fact that the same haters were donating over and over again?

The big 'donations' are about as real as LaffinThug's elastic wad.

£ 4.000
Anonymous Anonymous
2 hours ago
1414£ 4.000
Anonymous
2 hours ago

Anyone that believes those are genuine needs their heads looked at. Why aren't they asking why Baulch really dropped it like a hot potato, and why it is conveniently being run from Portimao?

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Re: Dr Amaral's Defence Funds - UPDATE - Target reached - let's keep it going - over £47,000 so far
Post Freedom Today at 10:20 am

This couldn't have come on a better day to lift the doom and gloom from elsewhere.

Yeah, what a coincidence.

Dara Anthony @dara_amthony
Take money out, give it to someone who then gives it back to the "fund". Fund appears to increase but no new money involved #McCann

Yup, just keep it revolving from one 'fund' to another, both of which appear to be being run from Portimao.

There's an easy way for Team Gonzo to prove this isn't happening.

Produce accounts for both Scrounge Funds.

Dimwitted hater (aren't they all?) can't grasp the scam:

When I take money out of my bank account, the total goes down, not up. Am I being scammed?

Do try to concentrate!

1. There are two different Scrounge Funds, with money seemingly automatically sloshing from one to another.

2. They appear to being run by the same person in Portimao now, the original founder of the UK one having done a runner from it.

3. No genuine accounts have been forthcoming from either account - it's YEARS since the original Scrounge Fund as much as stated it had paid out to one of Gonzo's many ex-lawyers.


4. Swapping 'money' from one account to another is the oldest trick in the book to try to make a failing enterprise look healthy.

Why isn't 'forensic accountant' Ena O' Forker demanding full sight of both sets of books?

I am stunned. Erm, why were they Anonymous? They surely can't be afraid of The Portuguese Judicial System, can they?
Not that I care. Why should I? It's quite nice to know that some persons support dodgy PT Coppers, as if we didn't know that already.

IMO, the only place these 'anonymous donors' exist is on dirtymac's keyboard, Sabot. Remember, both funds are now being run from Portugal, and no accounts are being produced.

Now, I don't greatly care, I just amazed at how stupid and gullible the Gonzo fan club is.

As noted by Myths only yesterday:

http://www.stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=7689&start=800

the trolls are desperately trying to hide the fact that "donations" are drying up.....and like you say Moby it's the same handful of trolls that they are squeezing over and over...

The haters were also back at their old tricks of cloning people.

And today, this happens!!!!!! OMG, it's, like, a miracle!!!!!! It really gives them hope!!!!!!!!!

My brain won't actually run to shifting money backwards and forwards, Bonny. But I could quite clearly see it if I could see the accounts and balance sheets. But I don't think that this is likely to happen.

But how do I feel about the donating of 8,000 Pounds, if in fact this is true? Not a lot, actually, because it doesn't really matter. Amaral was always going to get some sort of legal representation for The Appeal. And I can't think of one reasons for why he shouldn't.

What really bothers me is that a bunch of deluded Brits have nothing better to do with their Benefits in the process of trying to beat down a couple of other Brits who appear to be more wealthy, and against whom there is no evidence.

This such a sorry tale of the have nots against the haves.

It would be simplicity itself to swap money back and forth between the two Scrounge Funds, Sabot - no more complicated than moving 'money' from your deposit account to your current account and back again if you use internet banking.

It's just numbers on a screen, no actual cash involved.

As for the utter waste - agree, but what can you do if they want to throw their money away on that waste of space Gonzo?

bb1 wrote:It would be simplicity itself to swap money back and forth between the two Scrounge Funds, Sabot - no more complicated than moving 'money' from your deposit account to your current account and back again if you use internet banking.

It's just numbers on a screen, no actual cash involved.

As for the utter waste - agree, but what can you do if they want to throw their money away on that waste of space Gonzo?

Yes, I am sure that it would be, Bonny. But I would need to see the accounts. It can't be hidden, so personally I doubt that this has happened.
The account does sit at 47,000 Pounds, unless this is a lie. In which case Amaral doesn't have anywhere near as much as they say. Which might be of some worry to his Lawyers, past and present.

So much has been said of The Portuguese ignoring their side of Amaral's Fund, which we all know to be true, so perhaps a few Portuguese decided that it was time to redress the balance, because it has been frightfully embarrassing. Although it could well be more Brits like PeterMac pretending to be Portuguese.

Benefits? Who cares what they do with them? I am just stunned by the fact that these people give no value to a British child with a British Passport. And I am disgusted by the fact that it took so long to motivate The British Government.
The Benefit chasers can starve for all I care.
I might well have opted out from England but I am still British, and I care about what my Passport stands for. And yours.

It can't be hidden, so personally I doubt that this has happened.

Easiest thing in the world to hide if the same person has the admin key to both funds, Sabot, and refuses to publish any accounts - remember, Baulch left, and tossed the admin key to someone in Portimao.....

IMO, it's little more than a Ponzi scheme, and sooner or later, will come crashing down, as they always do.

As for the rest, think of this. The haters always moan about Ben Needham's family getting little support - but they'd rather throw away their money on a disgraced ex-detective's vendetta against a British family, than give it to the Needhams.

What does that say about them?

A very good point by Jean-Pierre on Injustice:

I am sure these donations are absolutely genuine and above board. And I am equally certain that when the independently audited accounts of the Amaral fund are released this will show that all the figures tie up between Amaral's fund, Go Fund Me and the legal costs, and there is no evidence of any recycling of donations.

May I also commend the two donors for having managed to make their Portuguese donations equal exactly £4000 - but why oh why donate via the GoFundMe site. The cost of doing so is at least £400 - (5%) and if the money was collected in euros and converted to GBP, there would be an exchange rate cost typically of 1% to 2%. (an extra £80 to £160).

Whereas if they had simply made the donation directly via the BPI - Banco Português de Investimento, Sete Rios, Lisboa, there would have been no charge and no exchange costs and Amaral could have been £500 quid better off.

I am sure there is a simple explanation for this.