MPs prepare to vote on Syria airstrikes

http://news.sky.com/story/1598268/live-mps-prepare-to-vote-on-syria-airstrikes

LIVE: MPs Prepare To Vote On Syria Airstrikes
The Sky News team brings you the latest as MPs debate whether the UK should join airstrikes against IS in Syria.

PM Stresses He Has 'Wider Strategy'

David Cameron stressing that the Syria debate is about the "wider strategy" for the country and not just military action.

He needs to win over MPs who have not yet been convinced to back strikes because they feel the PM has not made the case for any political solution that will follow the bombing....etc.


Utter madness. The UK has NO legal mandate to bomb anyone - stay out of the way and let those who are operating within international law get on with it. Which is Russia, Iran, etc., who have been asked to help by the LEGAL Syrian government.

Also, as long as Obama is in the White House and Erdrogan is in his Turkish palace, there is every chance of treachery by our supposed 'allies', and RAF crew suffering the same fate as the Russian pilot murdered by Washington's pet terrorists.

http://news.sky.com/story/1598451/pm-refuses-terrorist-sympathisers-apology

The Prime Minister has repeatedly refused to apologise for branding opponents of airstrikes in Syria "terrorist sympathisers".

As he sets out his case for bombing Islamic State targets in Syria in the Commons, David Cameron has repeatedly been asked by opposition MPs to say sorry for the jibe.

Parliament is debating joining the military campaign in the 10-hour Commons session.

Ahead of the vote, the Prime Minister told Conservative MPs not to side with Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and "terrorist sympathisers" by opposing airstrikes.

Arrogant fool.

"The question is this - do we work with our allies to degrade and destroy this threat and do we go after these terrorists in their heartlands from where they are plotting to kill British people, or do we sit back and wait for them?"

"The question before the House today is how we keep the British people safe from the threat posed by ISIL (IS)," he told MPs.

Not letting them into the UK, or allowing them to wander freely around Europe in the first place would probably have been a good idea.

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Planning on repeating his triumph in Libya, is he? It is NONE of the UK's business who the legal government of a sovereign nation is. Arrogant fool doesn't seem to think the Syrian people should have any say in the matter.

And there are only two choices.

Assad or ISIS.

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PM: It is in Syria where many of the plots against our country are formed. So we must act in Syria to deal with these threats ourselves.

What, not Luton or Bradford? Drummer Lee Rigby's killers were both 'paper' British. I don't really think bombing Syria would have helped much there....

PM: Strikes Will Not Increase Terrorist Threat

PM says he does not believe that UK strikes will increase terrorist threat.

He says already 800 Britons have travelled to Syria to be radicalised by Daesh and participate in attacks against UK.

So, cancel their passports and don't let them back into the UK...or would that be raycist?

PM We Will Now Use Daesh Rather Than ISIL

David Cameron says the terminology should be change and UK should join France in calling the "death cult" Daesh rather than ISIL "as frequently as possible" because the terrorists have nothing to do with Islam.

Useful Idiot and appeaser. As ISIS have proclaimed themselves an Islamic state, use the Koran as a training manual, and as inspiration for their atrocities, and are headed by an islamic scholar, they have EVERYTHING to do with islam.

Corbyn says something sensible, for once:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2015/dec/02/syria-airstrikes-mps-debate-vote-cameron-action-against-isis-live

Last week, the prime minister suggested that Kurdish militias or the Free Syrian Army would be able to fill the gap. He even claimed a 70,000-strong force of moderate FSA fighters was ready to coordinate action against Isil with the western air campaign.

That claim has not remotely stood up to scrutiny. Kurdish forces will be of little assistance in the Sunni Arab areas Isil controls. Nor will the FSA, which includes a wide range of groups few would regard as moderate - and mostly operates in other parts of the country.

The only ground forces able to take advantage of a successful anti-Isil air campaign are much stronger jihadist and Salafist groups close to Isil-controlled areas.

Remember at all times that it was a so-called 'Free Syrian Army' fighter that was videoed opening the chest cavity of a dead soldier in the legal Syrian army, and eating his internal organs.

The so-called 'FSA' has also committed many atrocities involving decapitation, etc., and Christian Syrians have often been their victims.

Hasn't anyone learned yet?

Clearly not, Lily. Now, I don't give a flying one what happens to terrorists - Russia can napalm them for all I care - but it strikes me as utter insanity for the UK to be shoving its nose, unasked, into this mess. Illegally at that.

If Cameron wants to make Britain safer, then he should ignore the wails from the Yuman Rites lot and start deporting ANYONE that shows the slightest sign of sympathising with islamic terrorists, 'paper' British or not. Oh, and don't let a single one into the country ever again. He can spend the money saved on securing our borders, which actually shouldn't be all that hard, what with us being an island.

It's only two years since Cameron wanted to bomb Assad, FFS - which would have let ISIS swarm all over Syria, and turn the country into a charnel house.

Hague said it might be necessary to break up Syria and Iraq.
We should be open to new solutions. In the end, if communities and leaders cannot live peacefully together in Syria and Iraq then we will have to try them living peacefully but separately in the partition of those countries, regretfully though I say that.

Hague clearly doesn't think he's caused enough bloodshed, he now thinks he's entitled to pronounce on the division of other countries.

Do none of these people understand the words 'sovereign state'?

David Cameron says the terminology should be change and UK should join France in calling the "death cult" Daesh rather than ISIL "as frequently as possible" because the terrorists have nothing to do with Islam.

Black is white and white is black now is it?


Bonny re your post about Hague, how could the globalists function without global rule?

I am sick and tired of this Religion of Peace, Nothing To Do With Islam, nonsense, Lily. I don't even know where it came from - islam has been aggressive for 1,300 years and counting.

After all, there's no such thing as 'Hinduphobia' or 'Buddhistphobia', is there? IMO, the problem is islam and its unpleasant teachings.

Many people I know in the US think just like you, Bonny.

http://news.sky.com/story/1598268/live-mps-vote-for-raf-airstrikes-in-syria


roddymansfield 2 hours ago
The result on whether Britain shold extend airstrikes to Islamic State targets in Syria is expected within minutes.

roddymansfield 2 hours ago
MPs Vote In Favour Of Airstrikes
Vote result: Yes 397 No 223 Majority 174

God help us.

Amen to that.  

http://news.sky.com/story/1599616/syrians-in-uk-divided-over-bombing-of-is

In the Syrian shops and restaurants of Shepherds Bush, west London, there are plenty of people who have fled the conflict - but all have different ideas about how to resolve it.

Wessam Azath was so desperate to leave Syria he paid for a fake passport to get to Britain and claim asylum.

He's now working in a Syrian supermarket and trying to rebuild his life.

You might expect he would be clamouring for the bombing of Islamic State, but he doesn't want the country he now calls home to join in airstrikes on his country of birth.

He believes bombing IS will make an already complex conflict even more complicated to resolve.

"It's our war, it's a Syrian war," he tells me. "It's not for anyone to take a part in this war so I don't agree with Britain to share in this war."...etc.

Then I suggest he naffs off back to Syria and fights for his country, instead of lecturing us while he hides here in safety.

And takes his fake passport with him.

There.  That's the solution. 

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And who was it that threw the door open for them all when he was PM? And compounded the damage by destroying large areas of the Middle East?

Why, I do believe it was Blair.

But Bonny, he has made so many millions since then.  You have to say he has a knack for making money for himself.....?