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Post  bb1 Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:10 pm

He hasn't actually said too much, has he - nothing that made sense, anyway.
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Post  lily Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:32 pm

No he hasn't said much, has he?

The other thing is that he could have made a lot of money by having his book back on sale because of the controversy surrounding it. As would the publishers and in fact they should have been happy to think they would be recouping losses.

Doesn't sound like they have much faith in Gonc......... Pcorneater
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Post  Sabot Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:58 pm


They could have sold those 7,000 books, and another shit load. But these people aren't stupid. They were hardly going to compound the felony. To have done so would just have resulted in larger damages.

That alone says it all.
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Post  lily Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:20 pm

Yes, Sabot, they could have done more print runs of the book, win-win situation all around for G & P and Gonc.

Heck, since G & P own the publishing rights, they could do whatever they wanted. So you are correct in the reasons why they did not, Sabot. Strange that some people cannot face this, isn't it? Pcorneater

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Post  crazytony Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:31 pm

Has anyone found out why Amaral's first publishers refused to have anything to do with his second book? The book that was supposed to come out in, January, February, June, or July, and hasn't?

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Post  lily Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:38 pm

Tony, I think that was supposed to be his third book? The second was called The English Gag? I believe that was published by someone else also.

So, no it hasn't.
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Post  lily Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:38 pm

Duplicate post.


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Post  Sabot Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:39 pm

lily wrote:Yes, Sabot, they could have done more print runs of the book, win-win situation all around for G & P and Gonc.

Heck, since G & P own the publishing rights, they could do whatever they wanted. So you are correct in the reasons why they did not, Sabot. Strange that some people cannot face this, isn't it? Pcorneater


Were The McCann Solicitors ever told to return The Copyright? I know that it was passed to them, but I don't remember them being told to pass it back. Just the books as far as I can remember.
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Post  crazytony Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:45 pm

lily wrote:Tony, I think that was supposed to be his third book? The second was called The English Gag? I believe that was published by someone else also.

So, no it hasn't.
And what happened to the English Gag?

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Post  bb1 Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:50 pm

Do you know, I just can't remember exactly what it said; if I can be bothered, I'll check the wording.

There are so many 'Gonc books', it gets confusing....he announced not long ago that he had ANOTHER 'new book' planned - bizarrely, about child abduction in Portugal.

Or so he claimed. The interviewer said:


JP: I have someone here with me has certainly encountered many of these situations, and even now is preparing a book called "Life without defense, disappearance, abduction and abuse of children in Portugal." It's Goncalo Amaral who ask for applause.


Note the word 'preparing' - this will be the third 'new book' this year.

There was the one that was supposed to be out in April, and the one that was supposed to be out in summer, as soon as the Great Man had read Kate McCann's book.

Both of these 'new books' have failed to appear.

I sometimes think the Portuguese media interview Gonc so there is a record of him talking bollox.
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Post  crazytony Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:01 am

bb1 wrote:Do you know, I just can't remember exactly what it said; if I can be bothered, I'll check the wording.

There are so many 'Gonc books', it gets confusing....he announced not long ago that he had ANOTHER 'new book' planned - bizarrely, about child abduction in Portugal.

Or so he claimed. The interviewer said:


JP: I have someone here with me has certainly encountered many of these situations, and even now is preparing a book called "Life without defense, disappearance, abduction and abuse of children in Portugal." It's Goncalo Amaral who ask for applause.


Note the word 'preparing' - this will be the third 'new book' this year.

There was the one that was supposed to be out in April, and the one that was supposed to be out in summer, as soon as the Great Man had read Kate McCann's book.

Both of these 'new books' have failed to appear.

I sometimes think the Portuguese media interview Gonc so there is a record of him talking bollox.
So he isn't only a failure as a cop, he is a cr@p author too. Okay biggrin

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Post  Sabot Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:25 am


So who holds The Copyright now, then? If it is still in the hands of The McCann's Solicitors then there ain't anything to worry about at all.
Can they be forced to give it back? Or is there a limit to how many times it can change hands?

I have a delicious feeling that it can't be done.
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Post  lily Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:40 am

Wasn't it transferred back to Gonc? Shocked

If it wasn't then it's fate will be decided at the libel trial. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:43 am

But surely it wouldn't have been Gonc who held the copyright, it would have been G & P - the publishers who don't want their book back.....
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Post  crazytony Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:46 am

From what I can remember, the copyright inside the cover of Amaral's book, stated it was the publisher's copyright.

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Post  Sabot Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:50 am

bb1 wrote:But surely it wouldn't have been Gonc who held the copyright, it would have been G & P - the publishers who don't want their book back.....

Perhaps The Judge forgot about that particular aspect. And perhaps Guerre and Paz didn't want it. Could you blame them?

However, it remains a Legal Issue. It can only be given back if The Court says so. And I don't think they did.
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Post  lily Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:07 am

The author usually holds the copyright to his/her work for that person's lifetime. The rights to publish the book can be assigned/licensed etc to a publisher for an agreed upon fee.

ETA: G & P would have bought the rights to publish his book and as such they own the published books but Gonc owns/would have owned the intellectual rights to his book
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:49 am

Some Oh dears! from the Morais blog.

First, hope springs eternal:

Anonymous said... 24
Can someone please explain exactly who is on trialhere and what evidence Mr Amaral can put to the mccanns personally if they are to be in the witness stand, if they can be called and if they can be cross examined, or is this about Mr Amaral defending himself only???

and please everyone and everyone you know show your support by sending a goodluck comment....... http://pjga.blogspot.com/2009/12/thank-you-note.html,


Why on earth would the McCanns be 'cross examined' by Amagal? He's the one in the dock, not them.

Who knows, they may choose to stay in the UK and follow events on Twitter. But do keep handing over money to the serial debtor and tax dodger biggrin

And a fool and their money...


Anonymous said... 22
I feel honoured to have just sent a donation to Goncalo Amaral's fund,i only wish it could be more,i wish Mr Amaral the very best,and hope justice will be served with the awful McCanns losing.Joana please tell Goncalo that not all the Brit people are gullible when it comes to this pair.


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Look, just give Gonc your last penny, if it doesn't go to pay off his debt mountain (predating 2007) then it may well find its way into the Find Madeleine fund, rather like Bennett's 'donation'.

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Post  Maggs Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:15 pm

Oh dear, Its great to see all these donations to Gonc's account. I hope Gonc hasn't applied for legal aid again. If he has this is another fraudulent claim he's made.
I thought I would send all this info to the appropriate people, just in case. Rolling Eyes
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:28 pm

Why these idiots cannot see they are throwing their money away is beyond me, Maggs. I am currently wading through various of Gonc's interviews and sticking them in the other thread - what a load of sh*te that man talks.

Do they not grasp - Gonc has to prove his 'thesis'. He has to prove that Madeleine McCann is dead, that her parents were involved, and have covered it up.

AND HE CAN'T.

There isn't a word in the official files to support his rubbish.

Surely they aren't still kidding themselves he has an Ace up his Sleeve? Because he doesn't, any more than Bennett has a Secret Source.

Best thing Gonc could do is settle out of court; he wouldn't be the first, would he Wink
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Post  lily Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:31 pm

If Gonc has any sense left, he will settle. He should then inform the media that he is very sorry for the harm he has done to the search for Madeleine.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:13 pm

Try not to fall off your seats laughing, but the nutjobs on the Morais blog have decided it is a fantastic idea to email CdM demanding they report on Gonc's forthcoming court appearance, and the fundraising for the Gonc Earring Fund..

Anonymous said... 32
IT IS A SHAME THE PORTUGUESE MEDIA ARE NOT HIGHLIGHTING AMARAL'S CONSTITUTIONAL PLIGHT. THEY NEED TO DRAW THE PUBLIC ATTENTION TO THE McCANNS' ASSAULT ON THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!

Anon 26 "If so, is a shame for the Portuguese papers to not report the libel case and give some publicity to Amaral Fund."

Yours is a very good point. I am going to e-mail "Correio da Manhã" about it. You are absolutely right. They must draw the public's attention to the fact that their constitutional rights and freedoms are under threat from McCann Corporation and one way to fight them is to DONATE to Dr. Amaral Defence Fund.
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HÁ QUE ALERTAR A COMUNICAÇÃO SOCIAL EM PORTUGAL PARA O FUNDO DE DEFESA DO DR. GONÇALO AMARAL! PARA O RISCO QUE CORREM OS DIREITOS FUNDAMENTAIS DOS PORTUGUESES!

Ainda a propósito do comentário bastante oportuno do anónimo 26 sobre a falta de cobertura e apoio em Portugal ao Dr. Gonçalo Amaral, aqui fica o endereço (correio-e) do "Correio da Manhã". Façam como eu, escrevam.

direccao@cmjornal.pt

The above is the e-mail of Portuguese newspaper CM (widest circulation) for those of you who would like to alert CM to the risk posed by the McCann Corps' libel to Portuguese freedoms and constitutional rights, and the urgent need to inform the Portuguese public accordingly.

It is also important that the Portuguese (and their friends abroad) contribute to Dr. Amaral Defence Fund so that he has a fighting chance vis a vis the multi-million legal team of the McCanns' and their British media, PR and political entourage.

That is after all the role of the Portuguese "fourth estate", the Portuguese media.



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Oh right, so it's a Yuman Rite in Portugal to make up sh*te about people, as long as you call it a 'thesis'? Didn't know that.

And I will laugh my socks off if CdM have no info about the 'court date'.......
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:31 pm

What's this, then?

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@Lilemor1 #McCanns libel case was reported today in Correio da Manhã


Not in the online version it wasn't; are we in for another of those games where the Gonc Squad claim to have seen stuff in CdM, but no trace of it is ever found?

And if it was in CdM, then why are the Morais lot emailing CdM?
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Post  lily Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:38 pm

And if it was in CdM, then why are the Morais lot emailing CdM?


Quite. Pcorneater
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Post  crazytony Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:50 pm

No it isn't. Here is the recent reports from the newspaper

Gonçalo Amaral: Livros destruídos
18-05-2011
Gonçalo Amaral: Livros destruídos
Caso Maddie: “Portugal tem Governo débil face a ‘amigos’ ingleses”
23-12-2010
Declarações de Gonçalo Amaral
Porta-voz do casal McCann considera telegrama desactualizado
14-12-2010
Gonçalo Amaral pede reabertura do processo
McCann insistem em proibir livro de Gonçalo Amaral
10-11-2010
McCann insistem em proibir livro de Gonçalo Amaral
Maddie: Tribunal autoriza publicação do livro de Gonçalo Amaral
19-10-2010
Maddie: Tribunal autoriza publicação do livro de Gonçalo Amaral
Gonçalo Amaral: Não vai a julgamento
18-03-2010
Gonçalo Amaral: Não vai a julgamento
Gonçalo Amaral: Responde a queixa
17-03-2010
Gonçalo Amaral: Responde a queixa
Gonçalo Amaral apresentou e debateu ontem o seu livro ‘A Mordaça Inglesa’ – sobre o seu impedimento de falar do caso McCann –, no Chiado, com a presença do psicólogo Paulo Sargento. (Tiago Sousa Dias)
20-02-2010
Gonçalo Amaral apresentou e debateu ontem o seu livro ‘A Mordaça Inglesa’ – sobre o seu impedimento de falar do caso McCann –, no Chiado, com a presença do psicólogo Paulo Sargento.
Livro de Gonçalo Amaral continua fora das bancas
19-02-2010
Livro de Gonçalo Amaral continua fora das bancas
Tribunal decide a favor de casal McCann
18-02-2010
Livro de Gonçalo Amaral continua fora das bancas

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