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Post  Lamplighter Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:04 am

Oscar Pistorius Held 'For Shooting Girlfriend'
South African media reports suggest the athlete may have shot dead his girlfriend after mistaking her for a burglar. Sky News: 7:58am UK, Thursday 14 February 2013

Paralympic and Olympic star Oscar Pistorius has allegedly shot dead his girlfriend after mistaking her for an intruder.

A body was discovered at the athlete's home in the Silverwoods country estate in eastern Pretoria, South African police said.

A journalist in South Africa has told Sky News that Pistorius' girlfriend was allegedly shot as she woke him, trying to surprise him on Valentine's Day.

Pistorius was arrested early Thursday morning following the shooting and is expected in court later.

The 26-year-old is alleged to have shot his 30-year-old girlfriend in the head and arms.

Paramedics were called to his home between 4am and 5am local time.

Police arrived shortly afterwards and a 9mm pistol was recovered from the scene.

"The deceased was shot four times and died on the scene. It is believed that she was the girlfriend of the accused," said police spokesman Katlego Mogale.

South African journalist Kalay Maistry told Sky News: "It is alleged that he thought his girlfriend, who’d come in to try to surprise him for Valentines Day, was an intruder. It’s alleged that he shot her at least twice in the arm and head.

"I think what this actually highlights is the level of fear ordinary South Africans have.

"This is a man who has gone to bed, it’s an innocent surprise from a girlfriend … and the moment he thinks someone is trying to break in he grabs his gun.

"This has come as a complete surprise for a man who’s considered a national hero."

The athlete know as the "Blade Runner" made history in 2012 when he became the first amputee to compete in the Olympics.

He won gold in the 4x400m relay at the Paralympic Games.

The athlete had both legs amputated below the knee before he was aged one, because of a congenital condition, and runs on carbon fibre blades.

Last year Time Magazine named him as one of the world's 100 most influential people.

Silverwoods, situated in the country's capital, is understood to be a high security gated complex with electrified walls, a guarded entrance and regular patrols.

South Africa has some of the world's highest rates of violent crime and some home-owners carry weapons to defend themselves against intruders.
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Post  lily Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:33 am

Although I will wait for verification, if he thought she was a criminal intruder, then that is a truly sad situation.

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Post  Lamplighter Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:39 am

lily wrote:Although I will wait for verification, if he thought she was a criminal intruder, then that is a truly sad situation.
Apparently something of the kind has happened before. It is a 'posh' area where most people are celebrities of some sort or another; a few years ago a father shot his daughter dead after he also mistook her for an intruder. The area sounds a bit like Beverley Hills. LL
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Post  lily Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:51 am

It does sound like parts of Beverly Hills, Bel Air and Holmby Hills, LL. I don't know about the electrified walls bit. Shocked

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Post  Lamplighter Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:06 am

lily wrote:It does sound like parts of Beverly Hills, Bel Air and Holmby Hills, LL. I don't know about the electrified walls bit. Shocked
They probably mean electrified FENCES, difficult I would have thought to electrify a wall! LL
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Post  lily Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:46 am

That sounds better, LL.

Mind you, you would be surprised at some of the new technology. Wink

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Post  Lamplighter Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:48 am

lily wrote:That sounds better, LL.

Mind you, you would be surprised at some of the new technology. Wink
Nothing surprises me any longer, lily! hug
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Post  lily Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:25 am

hug to you too, LL.
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:52 am

Welcome to another day on Planet Earth...
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:22 am

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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:31 am

Thanks, LL - it all seems a bit long on gossip and speculation, and short on facts just now.

Tragic, whatever happened.
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:41 am

bb1 wrote:Thanks, LL - it all seems a bit long on gossip and speculation, and short on facts just now.

Tragic, whatever happened.
According to the latest on BBC World, he has been taken to a hospital where he will undergo rests for drugs; he will then be taken to court after that and an accusation of murder made against him. It seems there are conflicting stories about what actually happened. LL
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:38 pm

SA police have just confirmed to CNN that the arrested man, due to be charged with murder, is Oscar Pistorius. LL
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Post  Pedro Silva Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:35 pm

very sad indeed.
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:50 pm

It is indeed, Pedro. Whatever has happened, a beautiful young woman is dead.

And is must be devastating for all the people who saw Oscar Pistorius as a champion of the disabled - whether it was an accident or not, his name is tarnished forever.

Ms Steenkamp's tweets of yesterday, when she was so excited about Valentine's Day, are heartbreaking:

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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:21 pm


Criminal Profiler Pat Brown Yes, not enough info yet. He was hyper paranoid about home invasion, so he could have freaked out and accidentally killed his girlfriend. But, then there are hints of possible domestic issues and arguments, and if that is so, it may be that Pistorius' has borderline personality disorder and has ego issues like other men who kill their women over slights they can't handle. Sometimes borderlines are super great to co-workers and friends because they want so badly to be liked, but in personal relationships, they think being nice to a partner is demeaning and they can be very emotionally and physically abusive behind closed doors.

Is she incapable of showing some decency and HOLDING HER TONGUE? If she wants to see someone with a personality disorder, then she should look in the mirror.
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Post  bb1 Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:07 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1052489/oscar-pistorius-breaks-down-in-tears-in-court

Prosecutors say they intend to prove that Pistorius is guilty of premeditated murder.

I suppose they do know what 'premeditated' means? Even on the little known so far, it seems a most bizarre way to 'premeditate' murdering anyone...
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Post  bb1 Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:12 pm


According to media reports in South Africa this morning, security guards at the complex found Pistorius by Steenkamp's body in the bathroom after she had been shot four times through the door.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2278970/Oscar-Pistorius-breaks-tears-charged-count-murder-Reeva-Steenkamp.html#ixzz2Ky98dWGV
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Curiouser and curiouser.
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Post  Lamplighter Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:13 pm

It seems the prosecution think they have a good chance with premeditated murder. LL
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Post  bb1 Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:19 pm

Think it's better to wait till it goes to court, isn't it? These snippets of gossip aren't making much sense just now.
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Post  Sabot Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:32 pm


Premeditated Murder sounds a bit steep. You have to go some to prove that.
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Post  bb1 Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:10 pm

It seems bizarre to me, Sabot. I can understand a ghastly, tragic accident happening, but I don't see ANYONE deliberately killing their girlfriend in this manner - or rather, in the manner being alleged in the media.

This is liable to turn into the worst media circus yet, and I hope the SA police don't start playing to the gallery the way they did in the Dewani case.
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Post  Sabot Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:27 pm


I have to say that I don't have much idea of what happened, Bonny. It's the "Premeditated" bit that I don't get. Just plain Murder is easier to prove, presuming that they could, of course. Or will The Jury be allowed "Options" on Murder or Manslaughter instead?

Or is this another Case of Over Charging as per Casey Anthony?

Personally, I preferred the days when the Actual Charge had to be proven, and there was a time when this was so. I don't like "Options."
Premeditated is just a bit to much for me.
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Post  bb1 Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:34 pm

It seems odd to me, as 'premeditated' implies planning, with the aim of getting away with it. It certainly doesn't sound planned from what is in the press.

None of which will bring Ms Steenkamp back, of course.

If it was a horrible accident, because he thought someone was breaking in, then there isn't a court in the world that can punish Pistorius more than he will punish himself for the rest of his life.

As ever, time will tell.
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