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Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
bb1 Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:24 pm
A masterly - and very timely - piece of work and research:
http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/41720057/Analysis-and-Rebuttal-of-Pat-Brown's-blogs-about-the-McCanns
Analysis and Rebuttal of Pat Brown's blogs about the McCanns
http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/41720057/Analysis-and-Rebuttal-of-Pat-Brown's-blogs-about-the-McCanns
Analysis and Rebuttal of Pat Brown's blogs about the McCanns
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
dianeh Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:52 am
Well done Jayelles.
I had a bit of a read and agree that Jayelles has done a terrific job.
What got my attention is the poor quality of the writing from Pat Brown. Not just that it is full of rubbish (clearly she did not research properly and has made deductions and pronouncements that are contradicted by facts) but that is is poorly written.
I had a bit of a read and agree that Jayelles has done a terrific job.
What got my attention is the poor quality of the writing from Pat Brown. Not just that it is full of rubbish (clearly she did not research properly and has made deductions and pronouncements that are contradicted by facts) but that is is poorly written.
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
Lamplighter Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:31 am
Hi Jay, when you have the book rebuttal ready can you post the link up here. Someone I know wants to post it elsewhere, the blog rebuttal is already up! I would have thought anyone watching Piers and Kate and Gerry would realise, however thick they are, where his sympathies lie. But I think this is just an attempt o get on his show, and that lad is aye canny, so I would think he'll see though her straight away. After all, he can now see her close connection to bentit and we know a lot of the bentit tripe was sent to Piers. LL
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
Chicane Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:29 am
Jayelles wrote:That is only a rebuttal of her blog. The rebuttal of her ebook "Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann" will go live as soon as the team have finished checking it.
Not only is her research and comprehension of basic case facts very poor, her theory is also impossible. It is very telling that the only way she can get it to "work" is by requiring that the reader disregard a few dozen witness statements. Even then, her theory is still impossible.
I note from her FB page that she has contacted Piers Morgan with a view to getting on his show to talk about her appalling theory. However, Piers Morgan is a Brit and will know that certain aspect of it are cr*p ;-)
Watch this space.
Ok...noticed
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
bb1 Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:07 pm
This was enough for me:
Furthermore there is lichen on the windowsill which shows no sign of disturbance
All together now,
OH NO THERE WASN'T!
Furthermore there is lichen on the windowsill which shows no sign of disturbance
All together now,
OH NO THERE WASN'T!
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
bb1 Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:27 pm
Looking forward to reading it, Jayelles.
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
Chicane Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:46 am
Jay, if you read this here, or in your mail, or in pm here, there, everywhere 
Good idea/question:
Could Jayelles sell this Rebuttal on Amazon as a download book, with all proceeds going to the Madeleine fund?
Good idea/question:
Could Jayelles sell this Rebuttal on Amazon as a download book, with all proceeds going to the Madeleine fund?
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
bb1 Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:29 pm
Great work, Jayelles!
I could not beleive my eyes when I saw this load of complete and utter tosh Brown has posted elsewhere:
Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann
Pat Brown Today at 9:39 am
Ufercoffy, your question about decay and refrigeration and mummification, etc., is an excellent one and very hard to actually answer. Kind of goes like this; it depends. It depends on where the body was put, how it was put there, was it wrapped, was it in the sun, was it in the shade, what kind of substance was it in, was it in one place and then another and another, was it in a refrigerator at some point, and so on. This might all eventually come out in a confession or if the body is found or never. What we do know is that it is unlikely that the body wasn't in the vehicle at some point.
Say what?
What we do know is that it is unlikely that the body wasn't in the vehicle at some point
That beggars belief, frankly.
I could not beleive my eyes when I saw this load of complete and utter tosh Brown has posted elsewhere:
Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann
Pat Brown Today at 9:39 am
Ufercoffy, your question about decay and refrigeration and mummification, etc., is an excellent one and very hard to actually answer. Kind of goes like this; it depends. It depends on where the body was put, how it was put there, was it wrapped, was it in the sun, was it in the shade, what kind of substance was it in, was it in one place and then another and another, was it in a refrigerator at some point, and so on. This might all eventually come out in a confession or if the body is found or never. What we do know is that it is unlikely that the body wasn't in the vehicle at some point.
Say what?
What we do know is that it is unlikely that the body wasn't in the vehicle at some point
That beggars belief, frankly.
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Zenny Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:30 pm
Great work Jay. I've read the whole thing and you did an amazing job with the facts.
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bb1 Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:30 pm
What, you mean Atlantic tides are not known for their mummification qualities?
Also - it isn't actually all that warm on the Algarve until summer proper; this year, their weather has often been chillier than the UK.
Also - it isn't actually all that warm on the Algarve until summer proper; this year, their weather has often been chillier than the UK.
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
bb1 Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:32 pm
She clearly has no experience of UK budget airlines if she thinks they let people carry mummified bodies on board....
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
Lamplighter Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:34 pm
There is a huge market in meat smuggling in luggage going to England, so it actually is possible"
Presumable these meat smugglers bring entire carcasses with them and the primitive British x-ray machines don't pick them up?
The stupid ruminant is referring to the import of bush meat, usually by Nigerians and other Africans, who go home for a holiday and then try and bring back banned substances such as meat and some plants. They always get caught. The ones that don't are the ones using long-distance lorries to bring the stuff in from usually the French ports on the ferries or by the Tunnel, but now Customs are well aware of the trade and they use sniffer dogs(!) to find the meat etc. Why would the UK need meat smuggling per se, they produce enough of their own!! The woman is a right nelly, isn't she? LL
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bb1 Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:07 pm
Why on earth would anyone smuggle meat into the UK - she does know rationing is over, and that there are these things called 'supermarkets' here? Even malls?
Yes, LL, she is talking about the illegal trade in 'bush meat' - her description conjures up visions of people trying to sneak sides of Aberdeen Angus onto Ryanair.
Stupid creature.
On the plus side, she is further destroying the little credibility she had left every time she makes ridiculous remarks like that.
Hope she thinks it was worth it to get her ego stroked by pitchforkers.
Yes, LL, she is talking about the illegal trade in 'bush meat' - her description conjures up visions of people trying to sneak sides of Aberdeen Angus onto Ryanair.
Stupid creature.
On the plus side, she is further destroying the little credibility she had left every time she makes ridiculous remarks like that.
Hope she thinks it was worth it to get her ego stroked by pitchforkers.
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
crazytony Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:02 pm
And there is the possibility that Peter Pan is real...isn't there?Jayelles wrote:Brown says:-
"I tried to not include things too far outside of the crime scene, not that they shouldn't be included in an investigation, but I wanted to stick to the facts of the night and reconstruct the crime itself."
If she wanted to stick to the facts, why did she go with "imagined scenarios" instead?
And this is her justification for the McCanns being able to smuggle their child's body back to the UK:-
"Although it seems outrageous, bodies can go in luggage and the screening is large group and is searching for things that blow up t...he plane. There is a huge market in meat smuggling in luggage going to England, so it actually is possible"
Presumable these meat smugglers bring entire carcasses with them and the primitive British x-ray machines don't pick them up?
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
lily Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:26 pm
It seems so to P Brown who doesn't give one care for facts Tony.
Jay, excellent rebuttal.
Jay, excellent rebuttal.
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
lizzibif Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:35 pm
New one-star review at Amazon says "An official complaint that Ms Brown's book is libellous has been lodged with Amazon and I hope it will be pulled soon.
http://www.amazon.com/review/R28KJL8EJC2FCX/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R28KJL8EJC2FCX
nothing in p.browns book we havent read before...this poster is right ..
sorry if this has already been posted...
http://www.amazon.com/review/R28KJL8EJC2FCX/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R28KJL8EJC2FCX
nothing in p.browns book we havent read before...this poster is right ..
sorry if this has already been posted...
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
bb1 Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:44 pm
She's selling the thing on Amazon UK, Kaz, Lizzi so she may be heading for a very nasty surprise.
*edited due to calling member by wrong name*
*edited due to calling member by wrong name*
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
lizzibif Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:09 pm
bb1 wrote:She's selling the thing on Amazon UK, Kaz, so she may be heading for a very nasty surprise.
good she deserves it...its lizzi btw not kaz ...
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
lizzibif Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:19 pm
bb1 wrote:Oop, sorry
no probs bonny its easy done... im off to bed goodnight ..x
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
lily Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:42 am
It will be judge and jury, Cath!
Oooops, silly me. She already acts that way.
Oooops, silly me. She already acts that way.
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Re: Jayelles' Rebuttal of Pat Brown
bb1 Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:30 pm
Oh, didn't she like you pointing out that she was factually inaccurate, Jayelles? And - what's the 'intended pun' 
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