Re: Express: Yard To Call In Tapas 7

**bb1** Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:17 pm

I don't think smiffy is covering anyone's ar@e, Maggs, he's just getting worse and worse.

Why the H*ll he thought boasting about his role in leaking restricted, UK police material was big and clever, I have no idea.

As for getting Levy confused with Reis....I think this is the clue to the cause:

urcrazytoo Father Jack
Blacksmith - put down the bottle. The name you were trying to find, & failing, is DUARTE LEVY not PAULO REIS!! anti #mccann bloggers=twats
2 hours ago

It seems to be a common problem in the forker camp these days.

**bb1** Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:19 pm

crazytony wrote:They do know Duarte Levy is Portuguese and not Belgian, don't they?

Well, Reis is definitely Portuguese, Tony, but he took off for Macau; he surfaces now and again to waffle.

That whole piece by smiffy is absolute sh*t; no-one with any kind of a grip on themselves could have churned it out.

**bb1** Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:23 pm

Duarte Levy:

Express: Yard To Call In Tapas 7 - Page 3 Duarte_Levy_people_17_08_08

Paulo Reis:

Express: Yard To Call In Tapas 7 - Page 3 Paulo

**crazytony** Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:39 pm

bb1 wrote:
crazytony wrote:They do know Duarte Levy is Portuguese and not Belgian, don't they?

Well, Reis is definitely Portuguese, Tony, but he took off for Macau; he surfaces now and again to waffle.

That whole piece by smiffy is absolute sh*t; no-one with any kind of a grip on themselves could have churned it out.

Duarte Levy's real name is Nuno Miguel Duarte.

**crazytony** Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:43 pm

bb1 wrote:Duarte Levy:

Paulo Reis:

Express: Yard To Call In Tapas 7 - Page 3 Reiss

**bb1** Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:46 pm

Nice one, Tony - how on earth smiffy managed to totally confuse the two is beyond me.

**Max** Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:25 am

bb1 wrote:I see smiffy is at it again:

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post60156.html#p60156

Seems he's waffling some carp about the Express piece, pretending he knows what's going on. But WTF is all this, about the rogatory statements being leaked?

The rogatory interviews were not distributed in the UK by Paolo Reis: he was given access to them at the same time as a small number of others, including members of the Bureau. We all stayed quiet except Reis who set up an English language members-only forum and fed edited extracts from the interviews to its readers.

The original documents were not translations but prints of the English language Microsoft Word original transcripts, as shown in the example above, complete with timings synchronised to the DVD record.Examination and analysis showed that they had not been tampered with in any way, that the personal details, telephone numbers and addresses etc. were correct and would have been unknown to anyone except the participants and the police and that there was no evidence of interpolation. Furthermore, as anyone with the most rudimentary knowledge of English and Romance language grammar and usage would have noted, the language was demonstrably original English throughout..

The legal questions surrounding the reproduction of the documents in their original Word format meant that it was safer to publish only edited and unformatted versions and this is probably why Reis did so. Still, to some of us it was unsatisfactory that one group was publishing edited parts of them not to the public but only to selected forum members—all “antis” — without showing the originals.

Out of fairness, therefore, one of the recipients sent one unedited facsimile copy to a notoriously pro-McCann and anti-Amaral UK internet researcher and forum poster (calling herself “Nicked”) and one to a more or less neutral and reliable UK poster (who used the name “Cushty”), giving them permission to use and circulate the material as they saw fit. This ensured that any attempt to provide inaccurate versions of the documents, either for or against the McCanns, would be easily identified and challenged. From then on they were gradually circulated throughout the net.

What a load of pretentious tosh

We all stayed quiet except Reis who set up an English language members-only forum and fed edited extracts from the interviews to its readers.

Is that right? So, it's true that Levy is just Reis in a fat suit?

Because it was LEVY who fed them out via the findingthetruth forum, after all sorts of skulduggery on his own site.

The photos of the interviews? The late-night chats on MSN to speshul forkers? And since when was Cushty neutral? I think we all must have missed that one...

That's his worst load of bollox yet - and that's saying something

Oh, and all that waffle is beside the point.

THE STATEMENTS SHOULD NEVER, EVER HAVE BEEN LEAKED IN THE FIRST PLACE

He's amended it -

The rogatory interviews were not distributed in the UK by Duarte Levy* : he was given access to them at the same time as a small number of others, including members of the Bureau. We all stayed quiet except Levy* who set up an English language members-only forum and fed edited extracts from the interviews to its readers.

The original documents were not translations but prints of the English language Microsoft Word original transcripts, as shown in the example above, complete with timings synchronised to the DVD record.Examination and analysis showed that they had not been tampered with in any way, that the personal details, telephone numbers and addresses etc. were correct and would have been unknown to anyone except the participants and the police and that there was no evidence of interpolation. Furthermore, as anyone with the most rudimentary knowledge of English and Romance language grammar and usage would have noted, the language was demonstrably original English throughout..

The legal questions surrounding the reproduction of the documents in their original Word format meant that it was safer to publish only edited and unformatted versions and this is probably why Levy did so. Still, to some of us it was unsatisfactory that one group was publishing edited parts of them not to the public but only to selected forum members—all “antis” — without showing the originals.

Out of fairness, therefore, one of the recipients sent one unedited facsimile copy to a notoriously pro-McCann and anti-Amaral UK internet researcher and forum poster (calling herself “Nicked”) and one to a more or less neutral and reliable UK poster (who used the name “Cushty”), giving them permission to use and circulate the material as they saw fit. This ensured that any attempt to provide inaccurate versions of the documents, either for or against the McCanns, would be easily identified and challenged. From then on they were gradually circulated throughout the net.

Scotland Yard will have been using exactly the same facsimiles in the review since there are no other transcripts.

Our intellectuals won’t correct their stories though: they never correct anything. That’s why they’re stuck in May 2007.

* But we have to make a correction: we called him Reis instead of Levy when this blog was originally posted, a remarkably stupid error. Apologies to Paulo Reis

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**bb1** Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:37 am

Smiffy's entire output of waffle is a remarkably stupid error - remember when PFA caught him altering a witness statement?

**bb1** Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:50 am

Oh dear, someone on MM called frencheuropean has posted a different version - and much more accurate - of events:

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"Levy* who set up an English language members-only forum and fed edited extracts from the interviews to its readers."

This forum was not set up by D.Levy but by a young lady called Sina ( Was the name of the forum"Find Madeleine"?)who only met him after the publication of the interviews in Bruxelles. I met her later in London with other members of the forum, not nutters but well educated and clever people and it was a very interesting and friendly evening. I thing the forum closed after being attacked and put down by hackers.
Why did Levy publish the rogatory interviews on this forum and not the 3A? IMO, it was because he had been attacked on the 3A and not defended by the mods and it was a bit like a revenge. I remember very well the fuss when the publication of the rogatory interviews on the Sina's forum was known on the 3A. It was like a war, upsetting and a bit ridiculous."Paranoïa ahead".
Now why did he publish openly the interviews? According to Blacksmith, it was for his own glory and he betrayed a tacit agreement. May be or probably. But I don't understand very well why access to the interviews was given to selected ( apparently anti?) people if it was not intended to have them published on the net. And why didn't Blacksmith publish them first? It's not very clear for me.
About the DVD, apparently the selected few ones has access to it and it is still in their possession. They didn't release it, I suppose it's because they would have been sued by the British police.,if it had been published in England. But abroad ,wasn't it posssible without the owner of the DVD being arrested? I remember when D.Levy on SOS Madeleine was asking people who wanted the recording to send him their email. They were queuing to ask for it. I doubt they received it. Probably because , even abroad, it was too risky to divulge the recording. And still is.

Nevertheless, if in october 2008, the recordings had been posted in one or several British/Portuguese tabloïds, it could have changed the public opinion about the case. It's not a reproach, Blacksmith, but a regret.

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Almost right.

The forum was called findingthetruth; Sina was co-admin with Janz. Janz and ISAR met Levy in Brussels. No, it wasn't 'attacked by hackers' - melodramatic nonsense.

It was a small, closed forum, and to the best of my knowledge, real life matters took precedence over internet nonsense for the people running it about a year ago.

About the DVD, apparently the selected few ones has access to it and it is still in their possession.

'Selected few'? He must be joking - there were more copies of it flying about than copies of Lady GaGa downloads.

Most of them ended up being used as coffee mats, due to the owners BEING UNABLE TO SPEAK PORTUGUESE.

I turned down a copy, due to the language issue, and also, the thing caused more trouble than it was worth.

What, did these idiots think no-one would copy the DVD and spread it everywhere?

As usual, the truth is boring; why do these idiots always have to embellish it?

**bb1** Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:48 pm

God, smiffy is an idiot...

We all stayed quiet except Levy* who set up an English language members-only forum and fed edited extracts from the interviews to its readers.

That's findingthetruth he's talking about, isn't it? rofl

It was nothing to do with Levy - that is the one Janz and the others caught up in Ex-Mods #1 set up rofl

After Levy met Janz and ISAR in Brussels, Levy then made great play of posting selected extracts of the Rogatory Interviews that had been leaked to him on the site, also making great play of having people swear oaths in blood not to pass them on.

Levy was, of course, using them, as he knew full well that if you put something on the internet and tell people not to pass it on, then pound to a penny someone is going to swipe it.

Poor old smiffy, another

Express: Yard To Call In Tapas 7 - Page 3 Funny-pictures-bird-cat-cage

Express: Yard To Call In Tapas 7 - Page 3 Funny-pictures-bird-cat-cage

**bb1** Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:52 pm

Oh, the drama of it! Having made a complete t*t of himself yesterday, smiffy has tried to extricate his feet from his mouth, but appears to have, instead, made matters even worse:

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post60607.html#p60607

The Blacksmith Bureau

Tuesday, 7 February 2012
Duarte Levy

We don’t take comments or defend this blog. That is either because we’re all liars incapable of taking criticism or because we think it only leads to trolling and strife –take your choice.

But a word about yesterday’s item on the rogatory interviews. We criticised Duarte Levy years ago over what we thought were important matters but that was then, not now, and we haven’t the slightest desire to prolong disagreements.

We made no overt criticism of Levy in the latest piece. Levy broke no agreements, tacit or otherwise, in publicising the interviews and owes the Bureau no explanations at all. Some of us felt that it was unfair or unwise to ration them and so we acted in a different way.

The interviews, one way and another, are now available in reliable copies for anyone interested in the case to study, which is all that matters. The reason for the post, as we said, was to correct the blockheads who still maintain that the interviews are “suspect” because they “were translated from the Portuguese” – not to re-open old conflicts or claim the moral high ground.
Posted by john blacksmith at 17:44

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1. He insulted the wrong Portuguese blogger.

2. He stated that Levy set up findingthetruth with the express purpose of leaking the Rogatory interviews, when in fact, it was set up by Janz and others following Ex-Mods #1 on the old 3A site.

3. ----oh, I cannot be bothered, smiffy's whole post is as interesting as watching paint dry, and less productive.

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