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Post  Sabot Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:17 am

I am temporarily speechless. But not surprised. Good God Almighty.
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Post  crazytony Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:19 am

He is a devious man and will have something on everyone of the board members.

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Post  greenink211 Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:19 am

And others tweeting

Paulo Vaz Henriques ‏ @paulohenriques
“@rcatalao: Paulo Pereira Cristóvão reassume plenas funções na direcção do #Sporting, diz a #TVI24. #SCP”

Paulo Pereira Christopher resumes full duties towards the Sporting say, # TVI24 # SCP

And another story

http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/superliga-geral/paulo-pereira-cristovao-sporting-caso-cardinal-suspensao-mandato-paulo-pereira-cristovao/1341343-1676.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+iol%252Fmaisfutebol+%2528maisfutebol%2529

Sporting: Paulo Pereira Christopher reinstated
Vice-Chairman had requested the suspension of the mandate
For Editors, LPF2012-04-17 00:07 h
PUB

Paulo Pereira Christopher will be reinstated in the office of vice president of Sporting informs TVI.

The leader had requested a stay of the mandate, having been made ​​defendant in the case of money deposited in the account of Joseph Cardinal umpire.

On Monday, the Council was convened and Leonine, according to the TVI found, Paulo Pereira Christopher will return to full duties in the club of Alvalade.

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Post  greenink211 Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:21 am

His re-instatement was not what many were predicting or from polls and other comments saying should happen, but it has happened and football (in my opinion) is worse for this. There are serious allegations against the man and in those circumstances it would seem normal for him to be suspended.

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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:26 am

It makes little difference to anyone here if he is re-instated, but the club may as well close now, IMO.

The police investigation has barely started - he is accused of very serious offences. How does this look to fans - to the rest of Portugal?

It makes Sporting Lisbon look as if the entire club is corrupt. I suspect they are going to come to bitterly regret this decision.
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Post  Sabot Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:32 am

greenink211 wrote:His re-instatement was not what many were predicting or from polls and other comments saying should happen, but it has happened and football (in my opinion) is worse for this. There are serious allegations against the man and in those circumstances it would seem normal for him to be suspended.


Any normal man would request it. Which he appeared to do, initially, or so we thought.

Well he has just effectively proved that he is above The Law, and they are all afraid of him. It is utterly bizzaire.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:34 am

http://expresso.sapo.pt/paulo-cristovao-retoma-funcoes-no-sporting=f719538

Paul Christopher recovery functions in the Sporting
The Board of Directors of Sporting met today to consider the wishes of the vice president to return to perform their duties after having been away at will.



What a farce! Tomorrow's CdM should be good....
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Post  greenink211 Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:34 am

Christopher Pereira generates controversy in Sporting

Paulo Jorge Pereira
17/04/12 00:05

Board met yesterday to take a decision on the vice president who was made ​​defendant in the case of Cardinal Joseph Auxiliary.

The meeting of the Board of Sporting in which they discussed the situation of Paul Christopher Pereira was a long discussion and generated controversy for hours, and was ongoing at close of this edition. There is no provision in the statutes and Sporting Civil Code that governs public companies the figure of the suspension of the mandate - nor its rules that would define, for example, how long the suspension would last, who would yield or when the officer could return - the resignation seemed a more viable hypothesis.

Christopher Paul Pereira was made Cardinal accused in the case, after the Judicial Police have carried out searches in Alvalade, at his residence and also in the company. The authorities suspected that the officer sought to create a trap that had been appointed assistant referee for the game of quarter-final of the Cup of Portugal with the Ocean, after you have done to reach Sporting Fernando Gomes, head of the Federation, the complaint on a cash deposit in the amount of two thousand euros, made on behalf of Cardinal, days before the meeting. The matter went to the Judiciary and the Attorney General, and started a process.

This past Thursday, the day of searches, Christopher Pereira said in a statement it was suspending the mandate "to defend the honor and protect the interests of Sporting." However, the suspension is not provided at Sporting, the leader changed his mind and showed willingness to resume his duties.

http://economico.sapo.pt/noticias/pereira-cristovao-gera-polemica-no-sporting_142671.html

Pundits were not thinking that reinstatement would be a wise decision. Economico is the FT equivalent.

I don't think it is just a bad day for his club but for Portuguese Football in general.



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Post  crazytony Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:34 am

bb1 wrote:It makes little difference to anyone here if he is re-instated, but the club may as well close now, IMO.

The police investigation has barely started - he is accused of very serious offences. How does this look to fans - to the rest of Portugal?

It makes Sporting Lisbon look as if the entire club is corrupt. I suspect they are going to come to bitterly regret this decision.
If, and it is a big if, the police find anything on his computers, then it will be highly embarrassing for the club.
However, I have no doubt in my mind, that he; was tipped off by an insider, that a raid was coming.


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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:37 am

I am shocked, Greenink - not just that he is back, despite all these ongoing allegations and the police investigations - but that the club could do something so self-destructive.

I am not a great follower of football, but I can imagine the fans aren't going to be happy about this. Or the money men.
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Post  greenink211 Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:42 am


João Veiga ‏ @jcveiga

PPC e trafulhices na mesma frase leva a pensar se estamos a falar de Pedro Passos Coelho ou Paulo Pereira Cristóvão.

PPC and treacheries in the same sentence makes you think if we're talking about Pedro Passos Coelho and Paulo Pereira Cristóvão.

Coelho is the PT PM.

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Estiveram 9 horas para reintegrar o Pereira Cristóvão. Acho que ele vai entalar mais alguém

There were nine hours to reinstate Christopher Pereira. I think he'll trap someone else


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Post  Sabot Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:42 am

What is the point in a game of football if it is being fixed? And who will want to play them?
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Post  Rose Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:54 am

Maybe it is not about a game. but rather a lot of money...??
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Post  crazytony Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:57 am

Rose wrote:Maybe it is not about a game. but rather a lot of money...??
Perhaps that is the issue Rose; but it may very well come back and bite them. I believe the club's bank isn't very happy with Paulo Pereira Cristóvão.

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Post  Max Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:58 am

Decision after a meeting of directors Leos
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/ultima-hora/sporting-pereira-cristovao-reintegrado#comentarios

Sporting: Christopher Pereira reinstated

The Board of Sporting reinstated yesterday a full role in the vice president Leo Paul Christopher Pereira who had requested a stay of the mandate following the Cardinal case.

By: Philip A. Ferreira

The meeting of the directors Leos began in Alvalade at 15:00 and lasted until midnight. Despite the existence of some divisions, Christopher Paul Pereira was eventually reinstated, continuing with the portfolios that you were assigned, ie, Heritage and Infrastructure.
Christopher Pereira's decision to suspend the mandate was related to the fact that it was made ​​a defendant in the libel suit qualified umpire Joseph Cardinal, by a deposit of two thousand euros made ​​in Madeira before the game between Sporting and Maritime Cup of Portugal (3-0). So far, the club has not Alvalade issued no statement explaining the decision to reinstate the vice president.

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Post  Sabot Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:29 am


It sounds as though he stood down and then asked for reinstatement because he needed their vote of confidence, which he must have thought he would get. Honour restored, as it were. One can only wonder how he managed that. But it is a very strange place wherein you can be charged with a crime and then carry on as though nothing happened.
So what are we back with? A charge of Defamation. It doesn't actually matter all that much if he tried to set up The Referee or if he tried to bribe him. They are both Offenses.
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Post  sadie Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:43 am

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It sounds as though he stood down and then asked for reinstatement because he needed their vote of confidence, which he must have thought he would get. Honour restored, as it were. One can only wonder how he managed that. But it is a very strange place wherein you can be charged with a crime and then carry on as though nothing happened.
So what are we back with? A charge of Defamation. It doesn't actually matter all that much if he tried to set up The Referee or if he tried to bribe him. They are both Offenses.

Ah, but he is going to get out of it, isn't he?

The bloke who took the money over to Madeira will take the rap

And even if they manage to make any charges stick, I wonder if there will be something on the Judge or something on his family?

Sometimes there are threats against the family. Marcos suffered that ... and spent cartridges on his balcony.


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Post  Sabot Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:55 am


It all smells very bad, Sadie. But I suppose we will have to wait and see what the reaction is in Portugal. It isn't actually our problem if they want to destroy the whole country. Just rather sad. But there is bound to be some kick back.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:48 am

No, Portuguese football isn't our problem, Sabot, but it's awesomely self-destructive. If you think how UK football fans have reacted to far lesser scandals, then I would think they will be sickened this morning.

What's the point in any team playing against Sporting Lisbon? No-one will ever know if the final score is genuine, or whether Cristovao has been threatening/bribing people again.

Allegedly.

IMO, an innocent, honorable man who cared about his club would have been happy to stay away while the investigation was going on.

That Cristovao seems to have over-ridden opposition to get back in speaks volumes, I think.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:59 am

Oh dear....

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/exclusivo-cm/escutas-revelam-traicao-a-godinho-lopes

Wiretaps reveal betrayal Godinho Lopes
CM unveils new elements of the case 'Paul Christopher Pereira ". To read your daily newspaper


So, Portuguese football fans are waking up to the news that Cristovao has been eavesdropping on the very person who wanted him back in the the club.

Allegedly.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:08 am

According to this, he was even at the meeting Shocked

http://expresso.sapo.pt/paulo-cristovao-retoma-funcoes-no-sporting=f719538


The first to abandon the meeting was Vice President Aureliano Neves, around 19:30. The remaining cast - composed of the Chairman Godinho Lopes, vice president and the other members Nobre Guedes Pedro Cunha Ferreira, Joao Pedro and Ricardo Thomas balconies - has left close to 0h25 and Paul Christopher, who was no doubt who was present, left the stadium Alvalade with this group.


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Franco5612 ( hereinafter user ), 2 points , today at 10:46

as the fall that Eleanor (mother of joaana) gave on the steps of PJ after the interrogation of Vice ... to confuse reality with fiction anything can happen ... moral and ethical need it!



I don't think it is quite grasped in certain section in Portugal that trying to sweep scandals under the carpet never works.
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Post  Sabot Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:09 am

I absolutely agree, Bonny. There won't be any point in playing against Sporting Lisbon anymore. Any game will be a farce. I mean, what can they say?
"It didn't happen?" "It won't happen again?" "It wasn't me, it was him?"
And perhaps, more to the point, who is going to want to be Referee?

Cristovao's reinstatement stinks of the very corruption that they will most want to deny. And no one is going to believe in an acquittal, simply because he didn't do the honourable thing.

All roads lead to Hell if you ask me.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 am

http://www.dn.pt/desporto/sporting/interior.aspx?content_id=2423751

Paulo Pereira Christopher reinstated

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The Governing Council meeting lasted about nine hours and culminated with the vice president, who had suspended functions, receiving 'order' to return to hold office.

Paulo Pereira Christopher will be reinstated in the office of vice president of Sporting on Tuesday. The leader had requested a stay of the mandate, having been made a defendant in the case 'Cardinal', denounced by the DN.
Former PJ inspector was accused of slander complaint for allegedly orchestrated a way to get the umpire's Sporting-Maritime (3-0), Cup of Portugal in a corruption scheme and have sent two thousand euros in deposit Cardinal account.
Paulo Pereira Christopher will return to function well in the club, vice president for the heritage of the club, after a meeting of nearly nine hours in a tense atmosphere.



I am not surprised the atmosphere was 'tense' with that thug - allegedly - in attendance.

It must be very, very difficult for honest people to stand up to these gangsters and their 'dossiers' and intimidation - allegedly.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:28 am

From DN comments:

This former secret agent should be in the program to make pine julie summary trials as the other two idiots. I am ashamed of my club.

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This former PC who is filthy rich (it seems) because they engage in multiple activities of espionage, I do not deserve any confidence. An official of the PJ honest not rich so easily!
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've been watching football will be many years but never thought to walk pide is tucked in football as he did this type comes second in the newspapers people watched, but more towards the sporting to accept the pide get back to me this is a sign that they are traveled with the cable in case Cardinal

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Membership, to suspend payment of the shares until they put this man to walk. Let's do it? We clean and we do not own the mob clubs crooks and corrupt. We are Sporting caramel and this can not continue to spy on the private life of each. Think about it and deal with it. I'll be the first to suspend payment.

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I am sorry that the institution that both Sporting (sells ethics and honesty) has scum of this caliber in their ranks can only reap disappointment and losing prestige.

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This gentleman was the PJ. God help us! is the mirror of the rot that goes in there. Remember the case of Mrs. inspector who asked about the opposition thugs to write a letter "blind" to denounce each alleged delivery of money in the case of Freeport? here is all the same school.

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Someone explain why this individual was expelled from the PJ. If the news that this explanation is much noticed.



And on and on it goes.....
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Post  Sabot Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:33 am

So Aureliano Neves departed the meeting at 19.30, some five hours before the rest of them.
This is certainly going to separate the men from the boys, but perhaps the rest of them are so rich that they don't care of what anyone thinks.
There are some prominent men involved here, so if you couple their attitude with the attitude of some members of The PJ and The Judiciary, then you could be forgiven for thinking that Corruption permeates the upper echelons of Portuguese Society. In which case there is no hope.
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