Scraping right through the bottom of the barrel

I think I might go on the just plain sad, Sabot. They may need a bit of excitement in their lives, hence the adulation of Gonc.

I mean how much more chaotic exciting could their lives be with him in there?

I suppose they really should be of some interest, as they succeed in being all three at the same time, Sabot.

Mad, because they believe such complete and utter rubbish that bears no resemblance to reality.

Bad, because they enjoy believing the rubbish, and try to force everyone else to believe it too, at the expense of a missing child.

Sad, because they must be truly pathetic individuals, if this is the high spot of their lives. How low do you have to be, to look up to the likes of Gonc and Bennett?

Just look at the forkers - now they are oo-ing and ah-ing over Spudgun 'snap your neck' Hardy.

Yes, the one who threatens to sexually assault men, and has sick fantasies about bestiality:

http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/if-i-watch-hardys-video.html

They actually admire foul-mouthed oafs like that. Go figure.

He's not exactly an Adonis, is he, Lily. So what is it do you think? Unless they get carried away with all that talk about Adultery. He can't support a wife, or investigate a paper bag, let alone pay his bills, so what is it they find so fascinating about him?

Dr David Payne ‏@DodgyDrPayne
@papashango1 well Mumsnet got their horrific advert stopped in the cinema. Seems #mccann can't gauge what's right and wrong taste wise.

What, unlike people who pretend to be transgender porn stars wearing dead roadkill on their heads?

Sabot wrote:He's not exactly an Adonis, is he, Lily. So what is it do you think? Unless they get carried away with all that talk about Adultery. He can't support a wife, or investigate a paper bag, let alone pay his bills, so what is it they find so fascinating about him?

Some less than intelligent persons, especially of the female persuasion, really go barmy over a 'bit of rough', and that is about as rough as you can get. LL

That....that thing sums the whole lot of them up. It's so bad, I keep thinking, It must be a joke.

The "Bit of Rough" angle had crossed my mind, LL. But would they really want to support him as well?

bb1 wrote:

That....that thing sums the whole lot of them up. It's so bad, I keep thinking, It must be a joke.

Actually, I thought it was Blasphemy, but I wouldn't be prepared to make a fuss about it.

Mind you, what else can you expect from people who think badly-behaved spaniels have superpowers?

Or make statements like this?

Seeking justice ‏@justice4maddie
@GemmaStone8 Cameron should have DEMANDED Kate #McCann take polygraph test before handing over 1p of taxpayers money




She's OD'd on Jeremy Kyle again.

Seriously though, I wonder how much Gonc's incompetent investigation has cost the Portuguese tax payers and now, the British ones?

lily wrote:

Seriously though, I wonder how much Gonc's incompetent investigation has cost the Portuguese tax payers and now, the British ones?

Frightening, Lily. I believe the dogs were brought in initially to search the surrounding area, and Robert Murat's garden, WHERE THEY DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING. It appears to have been Gonc's idea to search the appartment and car and Kate's clothes. And they didn't find anything of use there either. Gonc was looking at the wrong people from Day One. He was just waiting for someone like that pillock Paiva to come up with the imagined Dream. That alone should tell everyone all they need to know about Gonc's investigative skills.

bb1 wrote:Or make statements like this?

Seeking justice ‏@justice4maddie
@GemmaStone8 Cameron should have DEMANDED Kate #McCann take polygraph test before handing over 1p of taxpayers money




She's OD'd on Jeremy Kyle again.

This is so stupid as to be abysmal. Polygraphs are not admissible in a Court of Law, even in America, because they are not to be trusted. And anyone who agrees to take one is nuts.

The Green River killer is living proof of how useless, indeed, downright dangerous, polygraphs are. If he hadn't passed one with flying colours, he would not have been set free to carry on serially killing.

It's the kind of flashy, non-science that appeals to brain-dead forkers, though.

The problem is that movies and TV crime series have made it look like lie detector tests are the be all and end all of criminal tools. But they are no more infallible that dogs, though I will qualify that s the drug sniffer dogs do seem to be very successful - perhaps because their chances of finding a coconut shell amongst the cocaine bags is zero? LL

So why do they do them? They are worth nothing. Lisa Irwin's mother apparently failed one on some obscure point which was never actually explained in terms of this non science, but it let loose the ghouls and vile abuser on her.
Actually, sensible people are becoming more reluctant to accept this rubbish, certainly as Courts will not accept them. But I don't understand how Law Enforcement should be allowed to coerce a distressed parent into doing something that is worth nothing.

I don't think the wonderwoof devotees know the slightest thing about dogs, LL. They don't grasp that every puppy that comes into the world is born with the ability to find smelly or dead things. Or food.

They are not, however, born knowing how to detect drugs and explosives.

They do not seem to grasp that Eddie in particular was:

a. Too old to retrain to alert solely to dead human.

b. Too exciteable and badly behaved to be reliable.

Isn't it odd, they never mention Eddie getting excited about something half-way up a garaged wall?

Or Eddie bin-raking in the Ocean Club block?

Or Eddie treating 'evidence' as doggie toys?

Lamplighter wrote:The problem is that movies and TV crime series have made it look like lie detector tests are the be all and end all of criminal tools. But they are no more infallible that dogs, though I will qualify that s the drug sniffer dogs do seem to be very successful - perhaps because their chances of finding a coconut shell amongst the cocaine bags is zero? LL

Drug Sniffer Dogs are only of any use if they actually find Drugs, LL, which they don't always do. Law Enforcement strips the car and then apologises when nothing is found. But they don't talk about or log these failures, any more than they log the failures of Cadaver Dogs. One of my sons was once stopped, but he had never indulged. He just had long hair. Nothing found, "Desolet, Monsieur", but they did put the car back together.

bb1 wrote:I don't think the wonderwoof devotees know the slightest thing about dogs, LL. They don't grasp that every puppy that comes into the world is born with the ability to find smelly or dead things. Or food.

They are not, however, born knowing how to detect drugs and explosives.

They do not seem to grasp that Eddie in particular was:

a. Too old to retrain to alert solely to dead human.

b. Too exciteable and badly behaved to be reliable.

Isn't it odd, they never mention Eddie getting excited about something half-way up a garaged wall?

Or Eddie bin-raking in the Ocean Club block?

Or Eddie treating 'evidence' as doggie toys?

I am fairly certain that Eddie wasn't half bad at finding people in a Search and Rescue Situation, which is what he was trained to do. Trying to later turn him into a Cadaver Dog was an act of gross stupidity, motivated by money and fame. And not a thought for innocent lives. And much good Martin Grime was as a Dog Handler.
I have had four Afghans and a Pekinese who could find a pile of Rotting Compost at ten miles distance, which had probably been peed upon many times by Park Attendants behind the Potting Shed.
But Jersey was the real killer. Nothing. No Dead Children. He should be ashamed of himself.

Son No 2 says that most times drug finding is from anonymous tip-offs, usually from a disgruntled supplier, dealer, user, other times from LE officers who do a neat line in infiltrating, often paying the eventual price for their endeavours. LL

And much good Martin Grime was as a Dog Handler.

Yes, and this is the giveaway:



A trained dog should never, ever be behaving like that. Ironically, the McCann-haters think that that shows how 'good' Eddiewoof is, when it actually reveals the very opposite.

Lamplighter wrote:Son No 2 says that most times drug finding is from anonymous tip-offs, usually from a disgruntled supplier, dealer, user, other times from LE officers who do a neat line in infiltrating, often paying the eventual price for their endeavours. LL

Not always, LL. This happened at The Ferry Terminal in France. And it is a fact that Law Enforcement don't like men with long hair. They were just leading the dogs around all of the cars. And this particular son of mine looks as though he might be suspect. Long hair, beads, and weird clothes. Nothing to do with me. Never heard of him. Shit knows what they would have thought if they had found his Acupuncture Needles.
Awfully sorry. No Drugs. The rotten little shit doesn't even drink. Frightfully boring.

Son No 2 was talking in respect of his profession, ma petite. And believe me, years ago I'd have disowned him; he looked like a street punk and smelt like he had never heard of a bath. Then I found out what exactly he was up to - but that's not for publication. Banking, he told me he was in, oh, yeah? LL

Sabot wrote:

bb1 wrote:I don't think the wonderwoof devotees know the slightest thing about dogs, LL. They don't grasp that every puppy that comes into the world is born with the ability to find smelly or dead things. Or food.

They are not, however, born knowing how to detect drugs and explosives.

They do not seem to grasp that Eddie in particular was:

a. Too old to retrain to alert solely to dead human.

b. Too exciteable and badly behaved to be reliable.

Isn't it odd, they never mention Eddie getting excited about something half-way up a garaged wall?

Or Eddie bin-raking in the Ocean Club block?

Or Eddie treating 'evidence' as doggie toys?

I am fairly certain that Eddie wasn't half bad at finding people in a Search and Rescue Situation, which is what he was trained to do. Trying to later turn him into a Cadaver Dog was an act of gross stupidity, motivated by money and fame. And not a thought for innocent lives. And much good Martin Grime was as a Dog Handler.
I have had four Afghans and a Pekinese who could find a pile of Rotting Compost at ten miles distance, which had probably been peed upon many times by Park Attendants behind the Potting Shed.
But Jersey was the real killer. Nothing. No Dead Children. He should be ashamed of himself.

I have a golden retriever with an infallible nose for fox shit. Chanel for dogs.