Re: Jimmy Savile accused in ITV documentary

**bb1** Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:58 pm

The reality of life in Broadmoor:

Nurse knocked out and left needing £8,000 dental treatment after Broadmoor patient goes on the rampage
Paranoid schizophrenic and convicted burglar James Smith was transferred to Broadmoor in Berkshire after starting a fire at a hospital in London
He attacked other staff members just weeks before punching a female nurse despite being in the highest security unit

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2217167/Nurse-knocked-left-needing-8-000-dental-treatment-Broadmoor-patient-goes-rampage.html#ixzz29CNqbin0
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Not the sort of place you would expect to find shy, nightie-clad young maidens (who later become blokes) is it?

Though I confess to being baffled as to why Savile seems to have been put in charge of sorting it out, unless it was thought that such a bizarre figure would give the inmates someone to identify with as he jogged down the corridors in multi-coloured Lycra, his tentacles whirling through the cigar smoke. Whatever, that really is a lunatics running the asylum job.

**bb1** Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:16 pm

I notice the Sun has used that revolting picture of Rantzen nibbling Savile's medallion:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4587116/Abuse-campaigner-I-told-Esther-Rantzen-about-paedo-Jimmy-Savile-18-years-ago.html

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**Sabot** Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:28 pm

I am going to take the unprecedented step of not believing a word of this. In fact I will go so far as to say this isn't going to cost Jimmy Savile a penny. They can wreck his reputation if they like, but he won't care, and nor will I.
However, several Institutions run the risk of being successfully sued for large sums of money because they have now admitted to knowing about the rumours, and doing nothing. And even if they were only rumours, which for all we know they were, then this is just not good enough. Especially from a woman who was responsible for a Child Abuse Phone Line.

Good God. They say they knew he was abusing ill and disabled children, but they still allowed him to wander at will?
Sorry, but if I had been on duty, I would have been right behind him every inch of the way. And so would my sister who actually was a Nurse.

And another thing. I simply do not believe that a bunch of recalcitrant Approved School girls would have been left unsupervised with him, even if only for his protection.

**bb1** Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:40 pm

That's a very good point, actually, Matrons and Sisters in that era really were dragons, and would not have been impressed by bizarrely-clad DJs. Quite the opposite, in fact.

As I said at the start, there may be a handful of incidents that bear proper investigation - but there is no chance of that happening now. This deranged witch-hunt is counter-productive.

Reading round the message boards, it's surprising how GropeHysteria seems to be abating since the word COMPENSATION at the tax-and-licencepayers' expense was uttered. And the medallion-nibbling photo is suddenly everywhere....

Suing the BBC and Stoke Mandeville = suing the taxpayer, Sabot, and the NHS has more than enough pressure on it without handing over compo money to gropees who also happen to have done time for fraud.

I think Rantzen should carry the can for the whole thing. She's a wealthy woman; they can sue her for not whistleblowing when all this groping was supposedly going on.

**Sabot** Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:19 pm

I am utterly stunned by the total lack of attention to The Law. But then you can't Libel the dead, so who cares about that. BUT, you can't put them on Trial either, or even Sue them.
And Oh Gosh, Edwina Curry is now in the frame. What a disgusting hoot this is going to turn into, because she isn't going to take it lying down.

I don't actually know about the attitude of Message Boards. So far I have been Red Arrowed, if actually had my comments posted at all. But I have just left a couple of others on Mail Articles, so we shall see.

They have just had the He/She on Radio Four, but I missed most of it, so I shall have to listen again.

What about the vast good that he did? I really don't know, but I do know that he put a huge amount of effort into it, and raised a huge amount of money. In exchange for a quick grope? That just doesn't make sense when he could have afforded to pay for any grope he liked.

**bb1** Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:32 pm

How could anyone possibly doubt the word of a transsexual Broadmoor inmate, and a convicted fraudster with a book to sell? Are they not the very epitome of honesty and reliability?

Which is exactly what I thought would happen. In all this hysteria, there very probably are incidents which bear looking into - not because anything much can be done about it, due to Savile being dead, but if anyone in authority knew about it, and did nothing, then they are as bad as he was, allegedly. And I have Rantzen at the top of that list.

But - because of the compo-seeking gropees, the baby is indeed going to be thrown out with the bathwater, IMO.

Funny how Middle Britain started changing its mind as soon as THEIR money came into it, isn't it? Give it a month, and the Wail and the Sun will be apologising profusely, and starting a Fund for a new headstone.

**Sabot** Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:17 pm

Xcuse me. There isn't anything "Allegedly" about what they are saying. Only about what he "Allegedly" did. They are saying that they knew. He has never been proved to have done.
And sorry, but I am not going for any of his "Alleged" actions until I see some proof. Which I am not going to see. Too bloody late.
There are times when I wish that I had a greater command of The English Language because I just don't have the means to actually say what is really going on.
Political Correctness deprives me of the right to say what I think of the persons who are doing this, both "The Victims" and "The Accusers", and I probably don't want to anyway. What would be the point? People will believe whatever it suits them to believe, or say.

**bb1** Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:52 pm

Can anyone make any sense whatsoever of this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2217352/Revealed-Fake-letter-cast-doubt-Savile-victims-claims--played-key-role-BBC-decision-ditch-Newsnight-investigation.html

So, who is behind the forgery? It cannot have been the then-living Savile, because:

A spokesman for Surrey Police said: ‘This letter is not genuine and was not sent by us at any time. The suggestion that we advised anyone this case would not be pursued due to the health of the individual concerned is wholly inaccurate.
‘An investigation file was passed to the Crown Prosecution Service who advised there was not enough evidence to charge. All those involved were updated accordingly.’

The very last thing he would do is forge a letter which suggested the police thought he had a case to answer, but was too 'senile' to do so, when in fact the whole thing had been dropped for lack of evidence.

Was it a gropee? Has the entire world gone insane?

**bb1** Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:00 pm

The Mail on Sunday has seen the letter – and the BBC’s fears appear to be justified because it is unquestionably a fake. The note says that Fiona was interviewed by police in 2006 despite the inquiry not beginning until May the following year.

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So, as it was 'Fiona' who had the forged letter, then she had to know it was a forgery? What on earth is going on? The BBC were clearly right to drop the documentary, as they were being fed false information by parties who wanted it aired.

Curioser and curioser.

**bb1** Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:25 pm

In a final email, a Newsnight reporter wrote: ‘We’ve come up against a brick wall in our story – the CPS tell us the reason they dropped the inquiry is they didn’t have enough evidence. That contradicts what you and others have told us. We can only get round this by seeing the letter. Any chance?’
Fiona said last night: ‘I now understand the significance of not sending them the letter and I am possibly responsible for them not being able to run the story.
‘When they asked for it again I decided this had turned into an argument between who was right, the girls or the CPS. It shouldn’t be about what the CPS were saying, it should have been about the girls.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2217352/Revealed-Fake-letter-cast-doubt-Savile-victims-claims--played-key-role-BBC-decision-ditch-Newsnight-investigation.html#ixzz29ERqbWZJ
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No, her not sending the forged email meant that she got away with appearing on that documentary without being asked any difficult questions.

Like explaining how she could have been interviewed by the police a year before the investigation started.

Anyone fancy a wager that she took the hump about the investigation being dropped due to lack of evidence, and decided to invent some evidence that maligned the police?

**Sabot** Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:17 am

It is obviously a fake, and designed to make it look as though there was a cover up of some kind, and that Jimmy Savile was not only guilty but being protected. And if they had to resort to these sort of tricks then it's no wonder The CPS said that there wasn't enough evidence.
It won't have been the only lie presented in evidence against him, so in fact, none of it can be trusted. That's that scuppered.

**Lamplighter** Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:19 am

Latest:

Jimmy Savile 'Abuse Spans Six Decades'
Sky News – 2 hours 42 minutes ago

The head of the Metropolitan Police Service investigation into Jimmy Savile has said abuse allegations span six decades and could involve 60 victims.
Commander Peter Spindler, who leads the MPS Specialist Crime Investigations branch, said: "We can now confirm that we have received information from the public that suggests allegations against Jimmy Savile span six decades with reports starting in 1959 up to and including 2006.
"Having now had the opportunity to review progress one week on I have revised my estimate of the number of likely victims to be about 60.
"Once again I want to thank those who have come forward and reassure them, and everyone else who contacts us, they will be listened to."
The scandal surrounding the former Top of the Pops presenter has mushroomed since ITV screened a documentary in which five women alleged they were abused by the late DJ and broadcaster.
Scotland Yard is pursuing 340 lines of inquiry into the Savile abuse case and so far 12 allegations of sexual offences have been officially recorded.
Metropolitan Police detectives are in contact with 14 other forces as the number of allegations continues to rise.
Police investigated allegations about Savile's behaviour as far back as 1958, The Sunday Telegraph claimed.
Savile paid officers to drop a case against him for "interfering with young girls" when he was a nightclub manager in Leeds, his former bodyguard told the newspaper.
It comes after the Department of Health announced it was to investigate how Savile was allowed to work as a volunteer following allegations that he abused and raped patients at Broadmoor hospital in the 1970s and 1980s.
A spokeswoman said there would be an investigation into how the TV presenter was appointed to lead a "taskforce" overseeing a restructuring of the hospital's management.
Lawyers acting for Savile's alleged victims are said to be considering taking legal action against several NHS trusts and the BBC.
Lawyer Liz Dux, of Slater and Gordon, and an expert in personal injury and child abuse cases, told The Guardian newspaper she was acting for a number of women who want to sue on the grounds of vicarious liability.
The BBC has come under fire after it emerged Newsnight abandoned an investigation into the alleged abuse and claims that staff were aware of Savile's behaviour and failed to take action.
Director-general George Entwistle offered an apology to the victims on Friday and announced two inquiries would be held - into the Newsnight decision and culture and practices at the BBC.

**Lamplighter** Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:03 am

Daily Record & Sunday Mail:Scottish News
By Lauren Crooks 14 Oct 2012 07:08
Jimmy Savile's Highland home may be key to police investigation

DETECTIVES were ready to search Jimmy Savile’s Highland home yesterday as 20 more victims told police they were abused by the shamed star.

They believe the house in Glencoe – untouched since the disgraced DJ’s death last year – could hold vital leads for their nationwide investigation.

A police source told the Sunday Mail: “We have a list and the house in the Highlands is on it. It is near the top of the list.”

Yesterday, it emerged that police now believe Savile’s campaign of abuse spanned six decades starting in 1959 and that he was still targeting victims in 2006.

As well as the BBC, the Savile scandal was yesterday threatening to drag in the NHS and Esther Rantzen’s ChildLine charity.

The BBC have launched inquiries into claims of a cover-up and into why a Newsnight investigation into the Jim’ll Fix It host was shelved.

The claims being probed by 14 police forces, led by the Met, come from all over the country and both the isolated cottage in Glencoe and Savile’s flat will be visited by forensic ?teams.

Police are particularly interested in the cottage – called Allt na Reigh – which has not been touched since Savile’s death a year ago.

A hairbrush, a folder, two pens, an ashtray, a Breakaway chocolate biscuit with a faded wrapper and two boxes of Swan Vesta matches can be seen on a coffee table through the window.

A shabby beige leather chair has pride of place in the sparsely furnished living room.

Two bunk beds remain in a guest bedroom and a sign warning off burglars is posted on a window.

A source close to the investigation said: “Both properties are important to this investigation.

“Glencoe will be one of the first places they search.

“There are more than 300 lines of inquiry – and the house is part of that.”

Commander Peter Spindler, head of the Met’s Specialist Crime Investigations, said: “We can now confirm that we have received information from the public that suggests allegations against Jimmy Savile span six decades, with reports starting in 1959 up to and including 2006.

“Having now had the opportunity to review progress one week on, I have revised my estimate of the number of likely victims to be about 60.

“Once again, I want to thank those who have come forward and reassure them, and anyone else who contacts us, they will be listened to.”

Savile scandal sweeps over NHS as disgraced DJ's Broadmoor hospital position questioned

Shamed Savile was found dead at his Leeds home last October, aged 84, and is now lying in an unmarked grave after his £4000 headstone was removed from Woodlands Cemetery in Scarborough, Yorkshire.

Police want to establish whether anyone still alive assisted him in his crimes.

Criminologist David Wilson said: “The Scottish property should be sealed as quickly as possible.

“If it is untouched, there will potentially be evidence.

“They should also be getting officers in to do some basic detective work around what documents might exist, what photographs might exist, if Savile himself has got any writing about some of the people he met, and is now alleged to have abused.

“There could be evidence about people who were also involved who may still be living. Obviously, there’s going to be no court case against him.

“But the greatest evidence is actually going to come in terms of providing corroboration in relation to the stories that they tell – that’s really important.”

Former detective Gerry Gallacher, who retired last year after 30 years’ service with Strathclyde Police, added: “They would still have to get a search warrant for the house in Glencoe even though Savile is now dead.

“Other evidence such as photographs and items of clothing, which would provide further proof of abuse.

“It is possible they may even find evidence of new victims or potential witnesses who have not yet come forward. The house could yet play a very important part in this ?investigation.”

And ex-detective chief inspector Nanette Pollock, who ran key investigations into child prostitution during her 30-year career with Strathclyde Police, said: “Of course this house will be an important part of the investigation because they will need to find out if there is any evidence in there for a start. They will be looking for anything at all that might incriminate him.”

Savile took regular breaks in the house, which he bought in 1998.

He hosted Prince Charles for dinner at the house, which is more than a mile away from the nearest property, a year later.

And he even took the prince into Glencoe village to parade him to locals.

Savile was described as an “adopted local” by community leaders after his death.

But as the horror stories keep coming out, locals are having to come to terms with the truth.

Penny Mundey, 43, got to know Savile well due to his visits to the post office she ran.

She said: “The community are pretty shocked. I used to be the post mistress and he would come in and chat to me. He used to come in and take birthday cards, write them and then walk out.

“He arranged for Prince Charles to come in to the post office. He was coming to collect his pension except it was out of date so I couldn’t do it – I had to pretend.

“He could be a little bit annoying. He was quite ‘look at me’, he wouldn’t buy things.

“He would come in with his cigar and I had to say ‘Jimmy, go and put your cigar out’. Sometimes famous people can think they are better than you and he was a bit like that.

“But there was never anything like these claims. I would have called the police.

“I wonder why these allegations have been made now.

“If it happened then, why did nobody report it?

“But there are too many people saying it has happened for it not to have happened.

“It’s very sad. If he was like that then he should never have been around kids in the first place.”

Meanwhile, Savile’s flat in the Roundhay suburb of Leeds is still up for sale for £325,000. It is in need of substantial redevelopment and has a private elevator which takes visitors straight up to his penthouse.

A neighbour, who asked not to be named, said: “I haven’t seen any police knocking around but it’s only a matter of time before they’re in there.

“I haven’t even seen anybody coming to have a viewing of it.

“I mean, would you want to live in that man’s flat?

“I didn’t know him personally but with everything that’s come out I can’t imagine anybody wanting to buy it.”

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/jimmy-saviles-highland-home-may-be-key-1378588

**Sabot** Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:22 am

Right, that's it. The Scots are in it now. Can't you just see him cavorting around Glencoe in his gold underpants with a bunch of teenagers in tow. No one would know a thing about that sort of carry on.

**muratfan** Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:40 am

Going to say something here some my not agree with here but here goes..

No doubt Savile has been guilty of some serious things...but also you have to wonder how many people are just making stories up to earn some cash

**Sabot** Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:55 am

muratfan wrote:Going to say something here some my not agree with here but here goes..

No doubt Savile has been guilty of some serious things...but also you have to wonder how many people are just making stories up to earn some cash

Of course some of them are making it up. And the rest are no doubt exaggerating. It's all too easy to imagine that a pat is a grope, if that is what you want to think.

I don't know if he did anything serious, as there is no proof that I have seen, so for the moment I am assuming that he didn't.

**Lamplighter** Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:05 am

muratfan wrote:Going to say something here some my not agree with here but here goes..

No doubt Savile has been guilty of some serious things...but also you have to wonder how many people are just making stories up to earn some cash

MF if you read up you will see I have always said many of these 'victims'were actually just out for the money. Yes, he may have done bad things but the scale, time frame and apparent distances covered make me very leery of a lot of it. It seems to be the 'in' thing today to make up stories about some celeb, often conveniently dead so cannot defend themselves, and then start demanding compensation. And for anyone reading this, I am NOT in favour of what may have happened, I am just skeptical of the majority of the stories. Let's have some proper facts and evidence and then make up our minds. Lamplighter

**bb1** Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:01 pm

You won't get too many arguments here, muratfan. There has been a singular lack of anything resembling evidence, never mind proof, in all this hysteria.

Now, no-one is defending Savile and his problem with wandering tentacles, but it really is not in the same league as REAL, contemporary child abuse, is it?

Can you imagine how any of those poor children who were prostituted in Rochdale and elsewhere feel when they read about some OAP thinking she deserves compo from the taxpayer because he touched her backside in 19-teacake?

It's an insult. Worse, when this collapses, as it is starting to do, the gropees will have made things WORSE for every single genuinely abused child.

They have already - Childline is as good as destroyed thanks to Rantzen, isn't it?

That supposed 'documentary' should never, ever have been aired without some checking.

So far, one of the 'victims' has turned out to be a transsexual who was detained in Broadmoor when he was female; another one has been jailed for fraud - and now we have a third who seems to have been forging 'evidence'.

And that silly moo Rantzen was impressed because they were all singing from the same songsheet!

**Lamplighter** Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:24 pm

Savile Allegations: Ex-Boss Questioned Him
Sky News – 39 minutes ago

Jimmy Savile's ex-boss said he questioned the DJ over rumours about his private life more than 20 years ago.

Derek Chinnery, who was BBC Radio 1 controller from 1978 to 1985, admitted he asked Savile directly about the speculation of suspected abuse.
Savile worked at the station from 1969 to 1989, presenting a show of chart songs from previous decades.
Mr Chinnery said: "I asked (Savile), 'what's all this, these rumours we hear about you Jimmy?' And he said, 'that's all nonsense'. There was no reason to disbelieve (Savile)."
Speaking about his acceptance of Savile's denial, Mr Chinnery told BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House: "It's easy now to say how could you just believe him just like that."
He added: "He was the sort of man that attracted rumours, after all, because he was single, he was always on the move, he was always going around the country."

**bb1** Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:29 pm

Oh dearie me....

Esther Rantzen has denied rumours she is facing the sack as patron of a child abuse charity after she failed to act on allegations that Jimmy Savile molested youngsters.
Ms Rantzen, a patron of the National Association for People Abused in Childhood (NAPAC), had said earlier that some in broadcasting 'blocked their ears' to the claims against the Jill'll Fix It star 18 years ago.
Founder of NAPAC, Peter Saunders told The Sun today: 'In the light of her admission that she heard rumours about Savile but did nothing, I am going to ask the trustees if they feel she is an appropriate patron.'
But speaking to MailOnline, Ms Rantzen said she had received a long email from Mr Saunders on Friday assuring her that she would remain the charity's patron.

Ms Rantzen, the founder of ChildLine, said: I had a long email correspondence with the chief executive of NAPAC - friend and colleague - Peter Saunders and he assured me that I have not been removed as a patron.
'Peter Saunders has told me that the rumour that I have been removed as a patron is untrue.
'Certainly last night (Friday) he said he was exhausted and emotional in his email but was absolutely supportive of both me and ChildLine.
'At the end of the day it is their (the trustees) decision if they remove me as patron, that's for them to decide.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2217149/I-told-Esther-Rantzen-Jimmy-Savile-molesting-young-girls-Sex-abuse-victim-claims-told-Childline-founder-vile-accusations.html#ixzz29H9pKSZp
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That's her on the way out the door. It might have helped if she hadn't been photographed nibbling his medallion.

**bb1** Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:08 pm

Anyone who thinks that the compo-seekers couldn't possibly be lying about something so serious really should read the story of Tania Head, the 9/11 faker:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alicia_Esteve_Head

**Lamplighter** Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:30 am

Jimmy Savile 'Assaulted Cub Scout'
Sky News – 37 minutes ago

Another alleged victim of Jimmy Savile has claimed he was abused as a nine-year-old Cub Scout, making him the youngest known person targeted by the presenter.
Kevin Cook, 45, told The Sun that Savile touched him inappropriately during filming for a Jim'll Fix It TV show in 1976.
Mr Cook claimed that after he was assaulted by Savile, he was warned to keep quiet.
He told the newspaper: “He (Savile) became really scary and said ‘Don’t you dare tell anyone. Don’t even tell your mates. We know where you live’... Nobody would believe you anyway - I’m King Jimmy'."
Mr Cook, who lives in Essex with his wife and children, added: “For ages I felt like it was my fault. I felt guilty.
"The stuff in the papers brought all the old feelings back. My wife knew something was wrong so in the end I told her."
Mr Cook is one of several male victims of Savile to have come forward. One of the others is a man who said he was abused at the age of 10 at the Haut de la Garenne children’s home in Jersey.
The latest allegation comes after Savile's ex-boss said he questioned the DJ over rumours about his private life more than 20 years ago.
Metropolitan Police officers say the claims against the late TV presenter span six decades - between 1959 and 2006 - and they are pursuing 340 lines of enquiry.
So far, 12 allegations of sexual offences have been officially recorded, but the police said there could be 60 victims.
Derek Chinnery, who was BBC Radio 1 controller from 1978 to 1985, admitted he asked Savile directly about his suspected abuse.
Savile worked at the station from 1969 to 1989, presenting a show of chart songs from previous decades.
Mr Chinnery said: "I asked (Savile) 'what's all this, these rumours we hear about you Jimmy?' And he said 'that's all nonsense'. There was no reason to disbelieve (Savile)."
Speaking about his acceptance of Savile's denial, Mr Chinnery told BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House: "It's easy now to say 'how could you just believe him just like that'.
"He was the sort of man that attracted rumours, after all, because he was single, he was always on the move, he was always going around the country."
The scandal surrounding the former Top Of The Pops presenter has mushroomed since ITV screened a documentary in which five women alleged they were abused by the celebrity.
Met Police detectives are in contact with 14 other forces as the number of allegations against the former DJ continues to rise.

**bb1** Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:13 am

I am delighted to see that Rantzen is now in the firing line, LL. Shy Keenan is a woman to be admired, and if she said she spoke to Rantzen, then as far as I am concerned, she did.

If you wondered why we had dozens of people hanging around last night - it was because the twittertw@ts couldn't believe that anyone had dared say, Excuse me, but could we have some evidence?

All I can say is, if the carpet-chewers want to be even more offended, then they should try taking a look at the Yahoo! boards, etc., if they aren't too busy inventing Zionist-Masonic conspiracies.

The only people who are going to profit from this are the compo lawyers, who are so eagerly touting for business now. And the more hysterical the claims get, the less chance there is of ever getting to the truth.

Note for thicko forkers - words like claimed, alleged and sources do NOT mean something is true. The police now have the thankless task of sorting this out. The police, not the media.

**bb1** Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:47 am

Yoyo demonstrates how little grasp it has of the law:

The State should move to confiscate his estate from his trustees and use it to compensate his victims.

1. It is no longer 'his' estate, it has been passed on to people who have nothing to do with any of this, and charities.

2. Who knew Hitler or Stalin was in charge of the UK, 'confiscating' estates and ruling people guilty by association?

3. EVIDENCE EVIDENCE EVIDENCE. If any of the 'victims' have come forward in response to those ads on ambulance-chasing websites, thinking they only have to ask and they will get fifty grand from....someone, they are in for a nasty shock.

Mind you, I won't complain if they sue Rantzen, as she is the one person who was in a position to do something about these stories when Savile was alive.

I suspect she may be regretting getting involved with this witchhunt, as there are now rather a lot of demands for HER to be looked at closely by the police, as she started Childline, and was involved with similar organisations, yet did nothing about these allegations when she was in a position to do so.

**Lamplighter** Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:19 pm

I have just watched the TV programme that set all this in motion. I will say no more. LL

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