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Post  Sabot Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:17 pm


Things are looking better for The British Justice System. Each Claimant is going to have to prove their claim. That should be interesting to watch. And we won't see The Police for dust.
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:25 pm

No, there are plenty of get-out phrases for the police in that pile of poo. This is a very long way from over, and I feel heart sorry for the genuine victims - and I have no doubt there are a good few.

Uncorroberated statements, 'victims' not spoken to by the police - how on earth could they present that as a 'report' on anything?
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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:03 pm

It is good that the victims of such abuse come forward.
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:20 pm

The problem is, Pedro, that some of them are not genuine.

I have no doubt that Savile was a dirty old man, and a sexual predator, but it doesn't help one bit when false claims are made.

It makes me very angry that the police have made no effort to sort out the genuine cases from the others.
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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:26 pm

Yes bb1, you´re right, I agree with you.
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:36 pm

It makes me angry, Pedro, because child abuse of any kind is such a vile crime. People have struggled for years to get it taken seriously.

Now, it's all very well the police saying they have given victims a voice, but they really should have found out if these people were actually victims or not - a lot of them weren't even interviewed by police.

Savile is alleged to have assaulted girls at Duncroft school - years before he even went there for the first time. Sooner or later, that is going to be all over the papers, and how is that going to make genuine victims feel?

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Post  lily Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:49 pm

Another thing that might happen is that old tale of crying wolf. When something really horrible happens it will not be treated with the appropriate severity it deserves?
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:54 pm

That's it exactly, Lily. It's bad enough that it is so long ago, and many allegations cannot be proven or disproven. But that doesn't apply to the early Duncroft allegations, they are demonstrably untrue - but have been allowed to stand.

I hope it isn't because it was those false allegations that MWT based his whole witch-hunt on.
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:57 pm

Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas
RT @AlexanderGardin: Interesting that the #BBC have put their #Savile programme forward for a #BAFTA Feels a bit cheeky to me.


Someone's nose out of joint?
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Post  lily Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:01 pm

Yes, Bonny. His huge ego. mad
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:07 pm

What's his problem? His name got mentioned in the report:

3.1 Operation Yewtree was launched in response to the broadcast of ITV’s Exposure
programme on the 4 October 2012. Former police officer and investigative journalist
Mark Williams-Thomas detailed five women’s accounts of being sexually abused by
the late Jimmy Savile at Duncroft School in Staines and in relation to the filming of
BBC programmes. All said they had been abused during the 1970s, two in relation to
Duncroft School and three on BBC premises.


Oh, my bad, those are the allegations which are known to be false, aren't they?
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:10 pm

At Duncroft School, where he was a regular visitor, there are allegations of offences
between 1970 and 1978


Bit of a pity he didn't 'visit' Duncroft till 1974, isn't it?
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Post  lily Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:13 pm

How can anyone take MWT with any gravitas?
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:04 pm

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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:07 pm

http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/assets/uploads/files/savile_report.pdf

That is considerably more logical and businesslike than the Yewtree report itself. Though I will never be able to look at a beef biryani again.....
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:21 pm

The Levitt Report is everything the Yewtree report should have been, and isn't. I suppose it is too much to hope that those currently dreaming up lurid tabloid headlines will bother to read it?

Indeed, will MWT even bother to read it, or will he carry on peddling myths?
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:23 pm

Clearly, that's too difficult for any of them:

Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas
RT @DailyMirror: 'There may be hundreds more': Jimmy Savile victims total "a mere drop in the ocean" and "could double" http://mirr.im/VQSvYw


That's it, keep ramping up the hysteria, don't bother with any of those boring facts.
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:44 pm

Thank God some journos still retain the ability to think clearly and not act like sheep:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9795920/Treating-every-allegation-against-Jimmy-Savile-as-a-fact-undermines-justice.html

Treating every allegation against Jimmy Savile as a 'fact’ undermines justice
The self-righteous Operation Yewtree report does not get us much nearer the truth
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Post  bb1 Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:57 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1037054/savile-sex-abuse-victims-to-seek-compensation

The lawyer for more than 50 of Jimmy Savile's abuse victims has said they will seek compensation from the BBC, NHS, the TV presenter's estate and other organisations.

So much for MWT's claims that no-one wanted money.

Pity the police were too busy watching Law & Order: SVU thinking it was a documentary, to actually bother INVESTIGATING anything.

I share the sentiments of those who are ashamed of the UK today.
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Post  bb1 Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:20 pm

The standard of the 'investigation'.

Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas
The indecent assault at the last BBC Top of The Pops in 2006 was on female child between 13 & 16 yrs. #Savile was 79 yrs old at the time


Which was it? 13 or 16? The complainant surely knew how old she was in 2006? Given that Savile looked somewhat bemused on that show, are we sure he didn't mistake her for a Zimmer frame?

Previously, in MWT-land:

Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas
Those people saying #Savile victims are just after money this is just not the case & looks to undermine the whole issue.
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8 Jan Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas
Always difficult when claims solicitors get involved. I can tell u 4 ever victim I have spoken with not one wants any money #Savile
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Post  lily Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:00 pm

Always difficult when claims solicitors get involved. I can tell u 4 ever victim I have spoken with not one wants any money #Savile

Not one maybe, but maybe dozens do? Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:27 pm

I'd like to know why MWT isn't getting outraged at this exploitation of young women, when they are drunk out of their skulls:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/article4736912.ece

Maybe nineteen year old Jemima should sue the holiday company for not protecting her from herself?

She may well have a case against the Sun for posting a pic of her, naked, on a boat, giving a naked and equally drunk bloke a blow job.

Why no outrage about this sexual exploitation? Anyone who is as drunk as that, in a situation like that, is clearly putting themselves in danger.

Why didn't the Sun do anything about her? She's only a teenager - yet she is letting herself be treated like a lump of meat, with less respect than the merchandise in a slave market.

The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
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Post  Sabot Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:18 pm


In a minute someone is going to work out how many women he assaulted by the day, when he wasn't running Marathons and appearing on Television and generally raising money for Charities.
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Post  bb1 Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:26 pm

I reckon he must have been a clone, Sabot - there must have been at least four of him.

One was appearing on telly, yodelling and shouting Howzabout that, then?

One was pounding up and down the country, raising money for charity.

Another one was groping anything with a pulse, and one or two without pulses, according to the more ghoulish imaginings.

The fourth was plotting with Mossad and the Queen to take over the entire world for the Masonic Lizards.

'Tis, witchcraft, I tell 'ee!
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Post  Sabot Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:27 pm

"A Star Daughter", says her Mum? Oh my goodness me.
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