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Post  bb1 Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:36 pm

Thanks for that, Pedro - very brave of you to sit through Flores mouthing off. He seems to have babbled pretty much exactly the ignorant garbage I thought he would.
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Post  bb1 Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:37 pm

Flores simply hasn't the foggiest idea what Crimewatch was about, does he? He just doesn't understand it at all.
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Post  Pedro Silva Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:41 pm

you welcome bb1, I agree with you.

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Post  bb1 Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:49 pm

Numty tries, and fails, to think:

Katy Starr If new patsy is "plausible", then it will help Amaral in the libel case, since he can say that G&K suppresed the evidence about the person seen by Smiths, and hindered the search for Madeleine thenselves. ie If it was this OC ex employee, by suppressing it they prevented him being caught while alive and prevented him telling them what he had done with her. After the libel case the police can rule him out again. Three police forces cannot be that stupid.

If there's any truth in this, then Gonc is for the high jump and may well end up in jail.

Hello? Him being in charge at the start ringing any bells? Co-ordinating? If anything comes of this, Gonc is going to be the most hated man in Europe - because this man should have been looked at right at the very start.

This has got naff-all to do with efits; the PJ don't use them, anyway.

It seems to have escaped the loonies' notice that this has come about because the new PJ team were checking who was in the area at the time via their phones.

And no, phones don't need to be used to send a signal.Rolling Eyes 
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Post  Sabot Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:18 am

Dead simple really. Any sacked or ex employees? Where were they on May the 3rd? Voila, here we have one in PdL. What was he doing there?
That must have taken all of half an hour.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:13 am

I'm going to wait for more definite news, Sabot, though sadly, this one does have a ring of reality about it.

It's no surprise to anyone to see the McCann-hating Amaral fans trying to outdo each other with sicko 'jokes' and unfunny, ghoulish photoshopping.

I do hope the media are watching them snigger and sneer at what could have happened to Madeleine McCann - you know, the child they pretend to care so much about? mad 
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:22 am

Re: PJ searches for Maddie's body again + 'Maddie snatcher died in tractor accident four years ago' - shock new claims from Portugal Daily Star
Post PeterMac Today at 8:02 am

But yet again it flags up the mobile phone records, which have been mentioned numerous time in the past few weeks.
I think TM thought they were home and dry on that aspect, having deleted records fro their own phones, and then the judge refusing to allow the records to be used as primary evidence during the investigation.
But now, after Kiko and others have supplied detailed analyses both to Sy and PJ, they may have got something.


Hard to believe he was ever really a policeman, though it explains a lot if he was.

Clearly a graduate of the Gonc School of doing stuff. There's nothing at all odd about people staying at the OC having cellphones, whether on or off, that locate them at the OC.

There is a great deal odd about a sacked employee who lives miles away being located at the OC.

Kiko's a complete nutjob.
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Post  Sabot Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:30 am

Especially odd since this man appears to have been an itinerant farm worker, and likely mixing with other such persons, like gypsy's.

Not that there is anything wrong with itinerant farm work. I have done a bit of that in my time, but I didn't half meet some dodgy people.

But full time farmers do not live in flats in Lagos, and nor do they need a job at The Ocean Club.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:46 am

Did you know, Sabot, that if you are dead, that automatically makes you a veritable saint amongst men, leaving behind a sobbing widow who spends the last cent of her meagre pension on masses for your soul?

Well, according to the McCann-haters, anyway.

CdM takes a more robust attitude:


http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/suspeito-do-rapto-de-maddie-indultado

Research: Judicial Police looking corpse child
Suspect in abduction of Maddie pardoned
Jorge Sampaio forgave expulsion immigrant who may then have abducted Maddie.

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Cape Verdean immigrant died in 2009 in a tractor accident. Now, the PJ was interrogating the family to the town of Portelas near Lagos


The Cape Verdean immigrant who is suspected of having kidnapped Maddie received a pardon from the President of the Republic, Jorge Sampaio, and was not expelled from the country in 1996, as determined justice.
The man, who was then 26, was indicted in a case of theft. The additional penalty would be expulsion from our country to your home country: Cape Verde. Around Christmas and then as was normal in the 90's, the then President of the Republic chose a number of citizens who have just benefited from judicial pardons.
According to the CM found the immigrant was then to Lagos, where he eventually build their lives with his wife, a Portuguese national. In 2007, around the time of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the man had been fired from the restaurant at Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz had motive for the abduction and means to do so. He knew that the girl's parents and friends dined late, even knew the routines "lookout" to rooms.

Police still believe that although the goal was never to kill Maddie, the truth is that something may have escaped the control of the suspect. Scared all the media attention the case, you may have been forced to 'silence' the child. The Judiciary is trying to figure out what will be done to the corpse.
The death of this man, in 2009 in a tractor accident, now comes shuffling research. It is only recently that the track was then after your phone has been located near the village at the time of the abduction. The antennas aware of its location next to the apartment. The PJ has heard the family to understand the behavior of the suspect in the days immediately following. Also try to understand the places that have been and where you have hidden the child, then three years.



Not the best googlespeak ever, I am afraid...

I wonder why it's not occurred to the McCann-haters that it is entirely possible that it is actually this man's widow who's sold the story to CdM?
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Post  Pedro Silva Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:51 am

about "Katy Starr If new patsy is "plausible", that could be bad for amaral, because since he was in charge as coordinator, he can be accused of suppresed the evidence about the person seen by Smiths, and hindered the search for Madeleine (which he truly did), because amaral only showed interest in the clues that allowed him to feed his unproven / insane theories.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:04 am

Florence Wetton if we could find out the mans family perhaps we could support her in some way,

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 

Hasn't it occurred to ANY of them that the woman may be hoping to support herself by claiming the reward money, if there is anything in this story?
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Post  Sabot Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:06 am

Jesus Christ, I think I am going to have another nervous breakdown.

So he was already a convicted thief, probably short of money if he lost his job, and sacked at the time that Madeleine went missing.
Okay, a small pinch of salt.

But he is far more likely to have sold Madeleine if he needed the money. So I am sticking with that.

Yep, I do feel sorry for his widow. But he was hardly a saint in the first place. And that bloody disgrace, Amaral, should have discovered all of this at a time when it mattered.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:17 pm

Things must be bad, Morais is apparently lying through her teeth on FB-

Joana Morais on Facebook this morning:

Everything that has come out in CdM, and was today echoed in the UK media, is part of the rogatory letter requests sent by the British police, being carried out by a six man team of the PJ in Faro, who are working exclusively within the scope of that rogatory letter and nothing else. If CdM was correct with the articles that they have published that means that even the search for Maddie's body, the questioning of witnesses, the gipsy lead, the dead OC worker lead, the triangulation of cell phones and phone masts and the reconstitution are part of those requests made by the English. A PJ team has not yet been constituted to work in the process since it was reopened by the Public Ministry, that is, the official PJ investigation to the Maddie case has not yet been resumed.


What a load of sh*te!

No doubt the Gonc fan club is dumb enough to believe it, though. They've fallen for all her other lies.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:22 pm

Morais seems to have 'forgotten' that it was the PJ themselves who got the case reopened because of their interest in this business of the sacked employee.

Which makes a complete nonsense of what she's just spouted.


I would suggest this 'leak' has come from a non-police source, possibly the dead man's family. For all anyone knows, they are far from being in mourning for him, and see no reason to go on covering up for him?


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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:54 pm

Via googlespeak, one of Textusa's loonies rants at CdM and Damaso:

Espero que o Sr. Eduardo Dâmaso e restantes editores do Correio da Manhã leiam este e outros blogs, leiam os comentários e corem de vergonha! Não enganam mais NINGUÉM, já todos topam o seu joguinho sujo do vale tudo para vender mais!

I hope Mr. Eduardo Damaso and other editors of the Morning Post read this and other blogs, read the reviews and COREM of shame! Do not cheat more NOBODY already topam all your dirty little game worth anything to sell more!


Excuse me, but it's only a few days since Damaso was a forkers' favourite, after he testified for Gonzo.

Only a few days ago, we were being assured that CdM was a 'proper' paper, with excellent sources in the investigation.

The haters can't have it both ways.
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Post  Sabot Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:10 pm

Don't you believe it. They can and they do. And then forget they ever said it.
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Post  Pedro Silva Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:17 pm

about "Joana Morais on Facebook this morning:

Everything that has come out in CdM, and was today echoed in the UK media", oh, just because you insane morais believes in the crap that feeds your madness, that doesn´t mean it is true, you believe in everything the newspapers says, but only in those news who feeds your insanity.



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Post  Pedro Silva Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:18 pm

hey morais, we know that this is all speculation, because this new PJ investigation is secretive but not secretive for Scotland Yard with her parents.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:32 pm

She's probably under orders from Gonc HQ to try to lie and spin her way out of this one, Pedro - the McCann-haters will believe any old rubbish.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:37 pm

Incidentally, as pointed out on Myths - how does Morais know what's in the Rogatory letters? Are we supposed to believe the AG of Portugal has been sharing them with a two-bit hate blogger?

I think not!

There's going to be all kinds of crap coming from the Gonc propagandists now; only a fool would believe a single word of it.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:40 pm

More about it here:

Last week it emerged that Kate and Gerry McCann are to apply under Portuguese law to become private ‘prosecutors’ and may now be able to influence the course of the investigation and any prosecution.
Their status as ‘assistentes’ will allow their legal team to work alongside state prosecutors, keeping the McCanns informed of all new developments in the case.
They could also bring a parallel private prosecution against any suspects charged over Maddie’s disappearance.
A secrecy order put on the case by Portugal’s Attorney General could also be lifted just for them, giving access to all case file.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2480996/Main-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-African-immigrant-deported.html#ixzz2jJoEGoWa
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Like I said, just watch the Amoral propaganda machine go into overdrive - and remember what liars they all are.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:58 pm

Myths explain why Morais has got it ar@e about face:

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post200296.html#p200296

She's blogged about it and made the same, rather basic, error:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/10/maddie-case-pj-has-already-carried-out.html

Her shrooms are all too dim to see why she's talking bollox yet again.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:02 pm

Matthew Wilson ‏@strawsonian 2h
@xklamation @RosalindaHu @ProfilerPatB Joana's my go-to girl for #McCann updates. Great work #citizenjournalism


See? They'll believe any old rubbish, as long as it gives them hope. And when reality fails to match the fantasy the hatebloggers have dreamed up, they invent ever-loopier conspiracies.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:47 pm

MarketingMaddie ‏@MarketingMaddie 2h
Tractor suspect widow has freaked out and is already suing the people who made the claim #McCann


Really? Then why is the story still in CdM?

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/suspeito-do-rapto-de-maddie-indultado

Desperate times for Team Gonc.
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Post  bb1 Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:46 pm

Quote from: Montclair on Today at 03:51:54 PM
According to the latest news from Portugal, this story about the vindictive ex-employee came about because it was one of the leads that, in their rogatory letteres, SY asked the 6 man team in Faro to look into.


So, Scotland Yard are telepathic now? They know Secret Things about deceased people who don't appear in the police files, and that no-one has ever heard of?

Can't the forkers see the rather large flaw in that bollox from Morais, sorry, 'latest news'? Have they all forgotten that the case was reopened because of LOCAL information from the PJ?

They really are pathetic.
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