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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane vanishes over Vietnam
lily wrote:Something to add to this, or not, as the case may be.
http://english.astroawani.com/news/show/mh370-diego-garcia-runway-found-in-captain-zaharies-flight-simulator-32034
Hmm. I am not going to speculate any further on that at the moment.
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It was beautiful 30 years ago, Sabot. I remember there were different districts according to ethnicity? I know I went into a mosque, went through the Chinese quarter and the Indian one too.
Maybe it happened slowly?
Sabot, nor me. I saw it and posted it and will wait to see what transpires.
Maybe it happened slowly?
Sabot, nor me. I saw it and posted it and will wait to see what transpires.
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If it has been shot down, I don't see anyone owning up to it, not nowadays.
The USSR shot down Korean airliners not once, but twice:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_902
That one landed, with survivors.
This one didn't:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
Thankfully, cooler heads ruled us then, and there were no violent reprisals.
Then the US Navy shot down an Iranian airliner:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
It's always been suspected that Lockerbie was a retaliation for that.
Now, if someone has shot down an airliner from a Moslem country, full of Chinese citizens and others? It doesn't bear thinking about.
The USSR shot down Korean airliners not once, but twice:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_902
That one landed, with survivors.
This one didn't:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
Thankfully, cooler heads ruled us then, and there were no violent reprisals.
Then the US Navy shot down an Iranian airliner:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
It's always been suspected that Lockerbie was a retaliation for that.
Now, if someone has shot down an airliner from a Moslem country, full of Chinese citizens and others? It doesn't bear thinking about.
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Indeed. I had forgotten about the importance of Straight Born Chinese. They generally keep a low prophile but there are vast numbers of them, and they do owe ancient allegiance to China. They all know from what Chinese province their families come, and they still speak the same dialect. Or they did when I was there.
They are the heart of a hard working economy. The Malays were generally pretty idle, being Sons of The Soil.
I had forgotten most of this.
They are the heart of a hard working economy. The Malays were generally pretty idle, being Sons of The Soil.
I had forgotten most of this.
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All I can say is that someone somewhere does the decent thing and lets at least the passengers go. if the plane is there.
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Colossal Amnesia, perhaps? Christ. I am going to have to stop watching Television.
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Phew! This might be what happened.. The Twilight Zone is best left for TV.
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
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Hmm. Don't think it quite works, as the two accidents mentioned both send out distress messages. I can't imagine what would be so catastrophic it stopped the pilot sending out an emergency call, but let the plane keep flying for hours.
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If they were overcome by smoke as they couldn't use the oxygen in a fire? They are taught aviate, navigate, communicate?
Apologies my mind is somewhere else today.
Apologies my mind is somewhere else today.
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No worries, Lily.
This is mind-boggling, anyway. As soon as one explanation is put forward, it's ruled out because it doesn't quite fit...
This is mind-boggling, anyway. As soon as one explanation is put forward, it's ruled out because it doesn't quite fit...
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It's such a strange situation with some many possibilities. I just don't know how the people waiting to hear about loved ones are coping.
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Absolutely shocking scenes at today's press conference. Nothing says 'cover-up' like manhandling the relatives of the missing:
http://news.sky.com/story/1228252/missing-malaysia-jet-chaos-at-news-conference
I now have no doubt that Malaysian officials are lying through their teeth.
http://news.sky.com/story/1228252/missing-malaysia-jet-chaos-at-news-conference
I now have no doubt that Malaysian officials are lying through their teeth.
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I saw this interesting - and sensible - link on Myths:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/opinion/out-of-control.html?hp&rref=opinion&_r=0&referrer=
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If the transponders had not gone silent on 9/11, air traffic controllers would have quickly realized that two jetliners en route to Los Angeles had made dramatic course changes and were bound straight for Manhattan. Instead, controllers lost precious time trying to figure out where the aircraft were.
At the time, I would have bet my life’s savings that the transponder, which broadcasts an aircraft’s location and identity, would be re-engineered to prevent hijackers from turning such units off. But nothing was done. Almost 13 years later, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 sparked a lengthy worldwide search when, it appears, another transponder was turned off.
The issue today is exactly as it was on 9/11. Pilots like their locations to be known — for ground assistance, and because the transponder warns other nearby planes of their course and altitude. Only a hijacker at the controls of an aircraft would want the transponder silent.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/opinion/out-of-control.html?hp&rref=opinion&_r=0&referrer=
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If the transponders had not gone silent on 9/11, air traffic controllers would have quickly realized that two jetliners en route to Los Angeles had made dramatic course changes and were bound straight for Manhattan. Instead, controllers lost precious time trying to figure out where the aircraft were.
At the time, I would have bet my life’s savings that the transponder, which broadcasts an aircraft’s location and identity, would be re-engineered to prevent hijackers from turning such units off. But nothing was done. Almost 13 years later, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 sparked a lengthy worldwide search when, it appears, another transponder was turned off.
The issue today is exactly as it was on 9/11. Pilots like their locations to be known — for ground assistance, and because the transponder warns other nearby planes of their course and altitude. Only a hijacker at the controls of an aircraft would want the transponder silent.
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The issue today is exactly as it was on 9/11. Pilots like their locations to be known — for ground assistance, and because the transponder warns other nearby planes of their course and altitude. Only a hijacker at the controls of an aircraft would want the transponder silent.
Precisely.
Precisely.
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I don't know if you've had a chance to see those appalling scenes at the supposed press conference, Lily? I really could not believe what I was seeing, the missing passengers' relatives being manhandled like that.
All it did was convince me, and millions of other viewers worldwide, that we're being lied to.
All it did was convince me, and millions of other viewers worldwide, that we're being lied to.
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No I haven't seen any yet Bonny. However last night I was thinking that. What on earth have they been covering up? Is this gross incompetence added to the picture or what?
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http://news.sky.com/story/1228252/missing-malaysia-jet-chaos-at-news-conference
Video there - Kay Birley from Sky seemed to be caught in the middle of it. I was watching it live; she was blazing angry.
Video there - Kay Birley from Sky seemed to be caught in the middle of it. I was watching it live; she was blazing angry.
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Thank you for the link and I've watched the videos. This is shocking truly shocking. It's like a rugby scrum gone bad.
It makes a person wonder what they are not saying, doesn't it?
It makes a person wonder what they are not saying, doesn't it?
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Malaysia confirms it has new radar data on missing plane flying over another country (but won't say where for security reasons)
Malaysia says it has 'some radar data' on missing flight MH370
Officials say they are 'not at liberty' to release data from other countries
Relatives of missing stormed press conference where news was revealed
Distressed family held up banners saying officials were 'traitors'
Pilot had programmed a remote island into his home flight simulator
FBI will help analyse any electronic files deleted from the simulator
Search deemed an 'international effort' as 26 countries look for plane
Officials are focusing search on area in southern Indian Ocean
They dismissed previous claims plane was spotted over the Maldives
Rubbished claims flight was using waypoints when last seen on radar
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2584399/Malaysia-confirms-new-radar-data-missing-plane-flying-country-wont-say-security-reasons.html#ixzz2wSCACmCT
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I can't even begin to guess which country it was, they are telling too many contradictory stories.
Malaysia says it has 'some radar data' on missing flight MH370
Officials say they are 'not at liberty' to release data from other countries
Relatives of missing stormed press conference where news was revealed
Distressed family held up banners saying officials were 'traitors'
Pilot had programmed a remote island into his home flight simulator
FBI will help analyse any electronic files deleted from the simulator
Search deemed an 'international effort' as 26 countries look for plane
Officials are focusing search on area in southern Indian Ocean
They dismissed previous claims plane was spotted over the Maldives
Rubbished claims flight was using waypoints when last seen on radar
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2584399/Malaysia-confirms-new-radar-data-missing-plane-flying-country-wont-say-security-reasons.html#ixzz2wSCACmCT
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I can't even begin to guess which country it was, they are telling too many contradictory stories.
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It will all become clear eventually.
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I can't recall anything like this happening before, Lily. At one point today, I found myself wondering, Did the plane hit a drone?
Then realised how stupid that was; not only virtually impossible, but the transponders wouldn't have been turned off....D'uh.
Then realised how stupid that was; not only virtually impossible, but the transponders wouldn't have been turned off....D'uh.
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Bonny, it does get a person thinking of all kinds of weird things...... who knows? Have stopped theorizing for the time being....
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My mind keeps playing with idea that it vanished through a time warp and will be found on some remote runway with the passengers still alive and unaged in 50 years time.
Yer, yer, I know. But remember you read it here first.
Yer, yer, I know. But remember you read it here first.
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