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Workfare, Forced Labour and the new ‘Business and Community Wardens’.


If Cameron gets away with shredding the Human Rights Act, then there will be no comeback against this semi-slavery.

He'll make out its all about stopping Mad Mullahs from preaching hate, to loud Huzzahs! from Mail readers, when the devil is, as ever, in the detail, which no-one ever bothers to read until it's too late.

What??????!!!!

That is psychopathic if you ask me......

There are all sorts of things in the human rights act, besides just the headline-grabbing stuff the media latch onto, Lily.

Zerohedge has a good piece on it:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-15/uk-pm-david-cameron-proclaims-it%E2%80%99s-not-enough-follow-law-you-must-love-big-brother


It’s not just those domestic extremists and crazy “conspiracy theory” kooks who took serious issue with UK Prime Minister David Cameron’s recent overtly fascist language when it comes to freedom of expression in Great Britain. For example, in a post published today, the UK Independent describes the quote below as “the creepiest thing David Cameron has ever said.”



This statement, and others like it, are a huge deal. This isn’t how the leader of a major civilized Western so-called “democracy” speaks to the citizenry. It is how a master talks to his slaves. How a ruler addresses his subjects. I think the following tweet by Glenn Greenwald earlier today sums up David Cameron’s attitude perfectly well:

More at link.

I shudder to think just what the Tories are going to do, frankly. Mad Mullahs and hate preachers are going to be used as an excuse for a massive clamp-down, IMO.

Which is going to lead to real trouble in parts of England.

I think it is a good idea for people on handouts to be doing some good in their communities in return.  


So long as it is fair.


So what is making him like that?

Because these schemes are actually doing very little for any community, but are doing a lot for the profits of big businesses. Every person being stuck on one of these schemes is one less opening for a person to have a proper job, on proper wages.

'Fair' is the word that's missing from it all.

Oh, and proper jobs means proper taxes, and people spending money in their community, etc - this is what I mean about 'austerity' being trickle-up misery.

That is really sickening, Bonny.  

I remember my father saying that capitalism was the way to go so long as it was honest.   He spoke of business deals being done by handshake in the past.  

Corruption rears it's ugly head at every turn now.  In politics particularly.  

There will be uprisings.  Only a question of time.......I feel so sad for young people.

Your dad was spot on, Lily. It's when croneyism comes into the picture that it all goes wrong. Remember, by true capitalism, the banks should NOT have been bailed out with public money.

Protect ordinary depositors by all means, as they are now by law, but the incompetent crooks that caused it should have carried the can for what they did, not the public.

And the Tories are no better with OUR money than Labour. Remember, it was a Tory government that lost billions on Black Wednesday, when they got into a p*ssing contest with Soros - and he won.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

In politics and economics, Black Wednesday refers to 16 September 1992 when the British Conservative government was forced to withdraw the pound sterling from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM) after it was unable to keep the pound above its agreed lower limit in the ERM. George Soros, the most high profile of the currency market investors, made over 1 billion GBP[1] profit by short selling sterling.

In 1997 the UK Treasury estimated the cost of Black Wednesday at £3.4 billion,[citation needed] with other sources giving estimates as high as £27 billion. In 2005 documents released under the Freedom of Information Act revealed that the actual cost may have been £3.3 billion.[2]

The trading losses in August and September were estimated at £800 million, but the main loss to taxpayers arose because the devaluation could have made them a profit. The papers show that if the government had maintained $24 billion foreign currency reserves and the pound had fallen by the same amount, the UK would have made a £2.4 billion profit on sterling's devaluation.[3][need quotation to verify] Newspapers also revealed that the Treasury spent £27 billion of reserves in propping up the pound.

All that money - money taxpayers had earned - went down the toilet.

Protect ordinary depositors by all means, as they are now by law, but the incompetent crooks that caused it should have carried the can for what they did, not the public.

Completely agree with you , Bonny.  In the US after the bailouts, the bankers got huge bonuses etc. 

Very strange that......... 

It was similar in the UK?

Actually, this reminds me of the trouble in Greece.  If they were left to go broke, it would end up being a good thing for them in time.

ETA:  As for Soros well....

Yes, I agree, Lily. It would be bad for a while, but it would soon pick up. I believe that, if it wasn't for this debt - largely manufactured by Deutsche Bank, let us not forget - Greece would actually be in surplus?

And if they were away from Europe, they could trade with whoever they wanted - the carry-on with Russia cost them billions, as that had been a large market for produce.

https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/the-secretary-of-state-for-mundellirium/

On the subject of why on earth Cameron has made some leftover from Thatcher days a Lord, to keep those nasty Scotch types in line.

There is still one Tory MP in Scotland (we have one of each, rather like a political Noah's Ark) but I gather he is a bit ineffectual. His nickname is 'Fluffy', so he is probably a more or less normal human being, who just happens to be a Tory....

Opinions are divided on whether Cameron is trying to goad the Rebellious Scotch into doing something foolish, like declaring UDI, or whether he's so arrogant, he just doesn't care.

The Dug has a truly wonderful way with words....

Enjoyed reading that, thanks!  

It totally disgusts me that fox hunting is going to be un-banned.

There is no reason for that repugnant er....'sport'.

It's just awful, Lily. There are an awful lot of upset people in England already, and it's only a week since the election. I see no good omens in any of this.

No.  I can't help but think about here and how similar it seems......

http://rt.com/uk/259061-human-rights-northern-ireland/

The Conservative Party’s plans to scrap the Human Rights Act could undermine peace in Northern Ireland, Amnesty International has warned.

Amnesty International chiefs have written to Britain and Ireland’s prime ministers, expressing “deep concern” over the Conservative Party’s plans to repeal Britain’s Human Rights Act of 1998 and replace it with a self-styled British Bill of Rights.

The signatories said the move “could have serious implications for Northern Ireland's peace settlement” and might undercut “public confidence in the new political and policing arrangements” that stemmed from the 1998 Good Friday Agreement.

The Northern Irish peace agreement compelled Britain to integrate the European Convention of Human Rights into Northern Irish law, a process that was cemented by the Human Rights Act.

Since 1998, all legislation created by the Northern Ireland Assembly must be compatible with the Human Rights Act.

Policing policies in Northern Ireland, introduced in the wake of the Good Friday Agreement, also rely heavily on the Act as well as the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR). Amnesty International says trust in these “policing structures” in Northern Ireland since the troubles came to a close is a “key success of the peace process.”

Amnesty International UK Director Kate Allen said the peace agreement is “the cornerstone” of “a more peaceful Northern Ireland.”

“The Human Rights Act not only fulfills one of the UK’s key obligations in the Agreement, but is crucial to ensuring public confidence in the new political and policing arrangements,” she said.

“Given the history of political discrimination and mistrust in policing in Northern Ireland, binding human rights obligations have been crucial in building and bolstering public confidence in these key structures post-Troubles.”

Allen warned public confidence in the peace process is fragile and could be eroded quite easily.

“Any scrapping of human rights commitments could have serious implications for Northern Ireland’s peace settlement,” she said.

Amnesty International Ireland Executive Director Colm O'Gorman said the agreement was backed on “both sides of the Irish border.”

He insisted the Irish government must defend “the integrity of the Agreement” and rail against the erosion of “human rights protections” that are central to the settlement.

“We welcome the Irish government’s expressions of concern at the UK’s proposed repeal of the Human Rights Act, and the minister for foreign affairs and trade’s stating he will raise this with Northern Ireland Secretary Theresa Villiers,” he said.

O'Gorman called upon Ireland’s PM to put pressure on his British counterpart to ensure that “hard-won progress” in Northern Ireland is not jeopardized.


I think Wales, unfortunately, comes under the same rules as England, but I don't think Cameron can just steamroller over Northern Ireland and Scotland.

I don't know whether he is Hell-bent on causing a constitutional confrontation, or whether he's so arrogant, he just doesn't care.

The Smurf's finally gone:

http://news.sky.com/story/1485277/murphy-resigns-as-scottish-labour-leader

Murphy Resigns As Scottish Labour Leader
Scottish Labour leader Jim Murphy says the party cannot be run on the "grudges and grievances" of union boss Len McCluskey.

Scottish Labour leader Jim Murphy has resigned after the party was virtually wiped out by the SNP saying the party was being damaged by union interference.

Mr Murphy won a vote of no confidence in his leadership but said he could no longer remain at the top when a small minority, who had opposed his appointment in the first place continued to divide the party.

In a massive swipe at the unions he said the party could not continue to run on the "grudges and grievances" of one man, who he named as Len McCluskey, the General Secretary of Unite.

Mr Murphy said the Scottish Labour party could not continue to run on the whims of people from a desk in London "having a got at what Scotland does".

And he said he wanted to ensure the next Scottish Labour leader should be elected using the one member, one vote system, which does not give undue prominence to the views of the unions, which are by far the party's biggest donors.


Pity, he was a gift to Evil Splittist Satirists. As for:


Mr Murphy said the Scottish Labour party could not continue to run on the whims of people from a desk in London "having a got at what Scotland does".

Obviously he didn't either, or his party wouldn't have been wiped out in Scotland.

I have actually lost count of how many 'leaders' the Scottish branch of Labour has had since devolution....

Oh wait, he hasn't actually resign-ed, he's resign-ing, in about a month, if someone else can be found to win over the Scottish public. Hope he stays, SLab are going to struggle to find anyone worse than he is.

OMG!

The Times of London thought this:

http://bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/936-shades-of-black-mhairis-first-days-at-westminster.html

was real......and had appeared on the real BBC....



http://bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/938-journalistic-standards-fall-still-further-at-the-times.html

However in a piece in Saturday's edition of the Times of London, while correctly atributing authorship of the diaries to the MP, the once-respected newspaper claimed that the diaries had been published by old-media channel BBC Scotland(sic) rather than BBC Scotlandshire (see image above

How on earth could anyone be so STUPID?

Oh dear.....

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of troughers, Lily. And I have NO idea who is going to be the next Labour leader, north or south of the border. Every single one of the contenders to both is a complete nonentity - I've never even heard of most of them.

I've never heard of any of them. The poor old Labour Party must be in a really bad state.

From the front pages, yes, Sabot:



Murphy is the EIGHTH SLab leader in just over 15 years.....

When will someone get the message?