Re: BORIS JOHNSON NOT STANDING FOR TORY LEADER

**Lamplighter** Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:44 am

I didn't realise he is Scots-born - "Gove was born in Edinburgh; at four months old, he was adopted by a Labour-supporting family in Aberdeen, where he was brought up. His adoptive father ran a fish processing business; his adoptive mother was a lab assistant at the University of Aberdeen before working at the Aberdeen School for the Deaf."

**bb1** Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:06 am

Ah, did you not know that, LL? He tries to disguise it, but his Scots accent comes through when he is speaking off the cuff, or under stress.

There's a new generation of Tories coming up, from working class backgrounds - not the City spiv types which have wreaked so much havoc. Ruth Davidson is another one - they're very different from the Old Guard, and bear NO resemblance to Labour's champagne socialists and Islington Lefties.

**Lamplighter** Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:19 am

I am almost deaf, remember? All voices have a monotone accent to me, I have been told Gordon Brown does have a slight Scots accent, if so good for him, it's no disgrace to shiow your ancestry. LL

**bb1** Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:24 am

Ah yes, apologies, LL! Brown's accent is more or less completely Scots now he's out of the limelight; Ms Davidson never tries to alter hers.

**Lamplighter** Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:32 am

bb1 wrote:Ah yes, apologies, LL! Brown's accent is more or less completely Scots now he's out of the limelight; Ms Davidson never tries to alter hers.

Nae problem, lassie!! Blair is Scots-born, does he have any trace of an accent? LL

**bb1** Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:43 am

Blair? None at all, LL, he speaks in rather theatrical Received Pronunciation - no English regional accent, not even a trace of a Scots accent, nothing.

**bb1** Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:47 am

His performance yesterday made for a remarkable but unredeeming spectacle, fascinating if only on a psychological level. Here was a once bellicose peacock stripped of its feathers. He still, even in this moment of political nakedness, managed to find notes of indignation, a persistent tenor tone of self-justification.
He pleaded to be believed, begged his countrymen to accept he had not lied. With a swipe at cynicism, he said 'neither history nor the fierce and raucous conduct of modern politics, with all its love of conspiracy theory and its addiction to believing the worst of everyone, should falsify my motive'. At this point the voice went warbly. But a few seconds later it flared as he declared that he had thought the war to be 'right'.

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That's quite a good piece on the subtleties of Blair's performance yesterday.

**Lamplighter** Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:57 am

Though I can hardly differentiate between male and female voices, especially on the telephone, what I can still pick up is nuances and differences in the texture of the voice. I could pick up on Blair's whiny "poor me" and appealing tone as he droned on and on. Lying and obfuscation are easily picked up on, you don't need an accent to be telling porkies or trying to shaft anyone but yourself. LL

**bb1** Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:30 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/may-and-leadsom-fight-for-pm-job-as-gove-out-10494810

Theresa May and Andrea Leadsom will battle it out for the Conservative leadership after Michael Gove was eliminated from the contest in the second round of voting.

More follows...

With 199 votes, looks like it's going to be PM May, then.

**bb1** Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:16 pm

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**Lamplighter** Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:42 am

Tony on the couch: After Mail columnist Stephen Glover questioned the ex-PM's sanity, an academic who's studied the darker corners of the mind analyses the 'deluded, messianic, needy, narcissistic' Blair psyche

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3680049/A-professor-criminology-analyses-deluded-messianic-Tony-Blair.html#ixzz4DnTIiY3H

Very interesting read. My son came out with a remark recently: "Did I think Tony Blair saw himself and Bush in the same kind of relationship as Ronald Reagan had with Margaret Thatcher?" If my son is right then he was indeed deluded and narcisstic and going by his reaction to Chilcott he is still in the same state. LL

This uis the article by Stephen Glover referred to above.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3678087/STEPHEN-GLOVER-Forgive-poor-taste-really-question-Tony-Blair-s-sanity.html

**bb1** Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:56 am

Hmm. Fall of the Soviet Union v. hundreds of thousands dead? Falklands War in response to military aggression v. illegal invasion and destruction of sovereign state?

No contest....Blair ain't no Thatcher or Reagan.

**Lamplighter** Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:58 am

bb1 wrote:Hmm. Fall of the Soviet Union v. hundreds of thousands dead? Falklands War in response to military aggression v. illegal invasion and destruction of sovereign state?

No contest....Blair ain't no Thatcher or Reagan.

No, he isn't in the real world. But how about the world he seems to inhabit? LL

**bb1** Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:26 am

Actually, he's more like one of those loopy televagelists that try to get into politics, utterly convinced that God is on his side.....

**Lamplighter** Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:44 am

bb1 wrote:Actually, he's more like one of those loopy televagelists that try to get into politics, utterly convinced that God is on his side.....

I was leery iof him the moment I saw him, whch was, as I recall, whn he became leader of the Labor Party. People go on about body language, but ignore eye language. I looked at him from a professional point of view and felt a cold shiver down my spine. Not shifty-eyed, but more the stare of someone with a problem, not immediately apparent but there in the 'candid' stare he affected whenever he was in fromt of the public or camera. JMO, of course, but it looks like my instincts were right. LL

**bb1** Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:51 am

He's also responsible for the emotional incontinence that has affected a section of the UK public since his 'People's Princess' stuff. As well as a good few other things that have damaged the fabric of society.

**Lamplighter** Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:02 am

bb1 wrote:He's also responsible for the emotional incontinence that has affected a section of the UK public since his 'People's Princess' stuff. As well as a good few other things that have damaged the fabric of society.

Just be thankful it didn't go any further. The UK or GB, whichever title you prefer, has in fact been very lucky over the time it has existed. One Conquror, William 1, one 'Dictator', Cromwell, a not-too-dire Royal Family and the rest of the time an assortment of the good, the bad and the ugly!! But no in-house slaughter of the peasants etc, except of course for Culloden, but that was two 'sovereign' countries at each other's throats and that was par for the course in past times (not including the assorted killings in the name of religion of course). I do hope Scotland becomes an independant sovereign state before I parks me clogs!! LL

**bb1** Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:09 am

I do hope Scotland becomes an independant sovereign state before I parks me clogs!!

So do I, LL. But that means genuinely independent, like Switzerland. Not 'independent' only in name, and in reality bankrupt and under the boot heel of Brussels and Berlin, like Greece.

**bb1** Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:54 am

http://news.sky.com/story/andrea-leadsom-refutes-motherhood-slur-claims-10496432

Andrea Leadsom Refutes Motherhood Slur Claims
A major row erupts as Andrea Leadsom denies attempting to capitalise on Theresa May's childlessness in the race to be the next PM.

Tory leadership candidate Andrea Leadsom has furiously denied telling The Times she has an edge over her rival Theresa May, because she has children.

The Energy Minister sparked a furious backlash after she said while Mrs May "possibly has nieces, nephews", she had children which gave her "a very real stake" in Britain's future prosperity.

Mrs May responded by urging her Tory leadership rival to back her "clean campaign pledge" after the newspaper report suggested Mrs Leadsom was using her status as a mother to give her an advantage....etc.

When I saw Ms Leadsom in one of the debates, she seemed reasonable enough - though that might have been because she was about the only female panellist who wasn't shrieking.

I now get the impressions she actually isn't terribly bright - as well as being totally out of touch and pro fox hunting.

**Lamplighter** Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:02 pm

She comes over as thick as at least one plank, she has very little experience in government, All in all she doesn't inspire confidence as far as I am concerned. LL

**bb1** Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:07 pm

She seems to be able to speak well enough, LL, but comes apart under closer scrutiny? Which is the last thing needed right now. I don't like May much either, indeed, I am hard pushed to think of any UK politicians I CAN stand right now.

**bb1** Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:46 pm

Married Tory leadership candidate Stephen Crabb sent sexually charged messages to a young woman – despite basing his campaign on his family values.
The committed Christian – who withdrew from the race to become Britain’s next prime minister this week – allegedly told the woman about a sex act he wanted to perform.
He also said he wanted to kiss her ‘everywhere’ – despite having remarked how easy it was for MPs to ‘trip up’ and cause a scandal.

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Shocked

**Lamplighter** Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:38 pm

Finally, we have two women in a leadership race – but one of them still wants to play the gender card

Mother-of-three Andrea Leadsom believes she is playing her trump card over Theresa May, and it's a depressing spectacle to watch

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/andrea-leadsom-theresa-may-conservative-leadership-constest-women-playing-gender-card-a7126781.html

**bb1** Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:43 pm

It's probably heresy to say it, LL, but I am starting to get heartily sick of female politicians - their competence in office never seems to match the noise they make about being Strong Wimmen. May has NOT been a good Home Secretary, she is just the least-awful option.

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