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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:08 pm

Jayelles wrote:Lovely Daisy from La-La-Land thinks:-

think it's pretty clear from everything I've seen or read since the McCann's perfomance yesterday, that the mainstream media (inc Vine - he's just another talking head) have recieved the memo: 'protect the Mccann's at all costs; ignore all the glaring inconsistencies and unanswered questions; elevate this couples status, they are part of the establishment now.'

I've always thought the McCann's were given this (unprecedented) high level of protection in return for something. I'm not quite sure what this 'something' is yet but I definitely believe they've been chosen for a role within the same establishment that's protecting them. I don't think we've seen the last of Kate & Gerry, not by a long chalk. We'll see, time will tell..

Yep. some things are pretty clear to me too Daisy yernuts


In what alternate universe is the ordeal the McCann family have been put through 'protection'?

Agree, I vote yernuts yernuts yernuts
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:24 pm

This one cannot even work out that TWO DIFFERENT YEARS are being discussed.


Hello again Aiyoyo. If the copy of the diary that the PJ held was destroyed in late June how the devil did the Portuguese press and the NOW get up to 31st July. The PJ only had at the most up to end June when their copy was destroyed, so where did this extra month come from? End June to end July?


Unbelievable.
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:37 pm

Lilemor1 Vitzliputzli
#Twitter has suspended more than 200 accounts in last 24 hours for those who dare 2 mention the TRUTH from #McCann police files! #Censorship


Oh, I do hope so - they can all go back to their remedial basket-weaving classes.

I bet a good few of them got banned for the mess they made of #leveson, not to mention harrassing so many people.
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Post  Maggs Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:00 pm

- OBJECTS FOR EXAMINATION
1. One (01) pink cloth toy, with yellow paws and ears and blue label, make "cuddle cat", with a third in wood and a green band, alluding to Fatima, that was found in the lounge on top of a large chair [armchair].
2. Clothes, shoes, bags [hand-bags; suitcases] and travel bags [knapsacks] that were packed as follows:
- Lounge, two boxes.
- Master bedroom, two boxes.
- Twins' bedroom, one suitcase.
- Visitors' bedroom, one suitcase.
3. Various papers.
- One bible, bedside table of the master bedroom.
- Two diaries and a notepad that was found in the cupboard of the master bedroom.- On pair of latex gloves, that was found in a drawer of a bedside table of the visitors' bedroom.
Every one of these items should have been packed individually in forensic bags. They where not only packed and rammed in boxes or suitcases but had also been wiped round two different floors, as the first one was filthy. Gonc thought he could do just as he pleased, till his arse was kicked by his boss.

IMO these diary's of Kates were copied and sold to the press by Gonc himself, the same as the phone numbers, address's and god knows what else of witness's details he sold to the junky journo who just happened to be in his office. Gonc would sell his own granny if he could make a Euro or two.

The leveson enquiry is the best thing Kate and Gerry could do at this time. If the Portuguese government don't take this onboard this time, well all it shows is the real amount of corruption in Portugal and who is behind it.
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:07 pm

Some good news:

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Reports of fresh funds pouring in to the Madeleine Fund after the #mccann s' hounding by press and trolls disclosed at #Leveson. #anillwind


Personally, Maggs, I think Portugal will cheerfully thrown Gonc under the bus before February - the country has enough to worry about without him causing them even more international embarrassment.

His woeful book seems to have sunk without trace - even Morais seems to have lost interest.
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:35 pm


If you think about it you can see why they have all these weird ideas. They actually haven't got a clue about what is going on so they have to make it up. Otherwise they wouldn't have anything to talk about. And then what would they do with themselves?
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Post  Pedro Silva Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:39 pm

My friends, this was taken from PFA2, thank you PFA2 member, you know who you are:

http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/hearing/2011-11-23pm/

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Post  lily Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:51 pm


With thanks to Cath of Stopthemyths forum for finding these gems which require a wide audience.


el confidencial

(Translated by Ines)

The Shadows Over Madeleine’s Parents

What Kate McCann’s Secret Diary Does Not Tell



By Aníbal Malvar 24/10/2011 (06:00h)

Kate McCann has been in Madrid this week to present the book “Madeleine”, based upon her diaries and in which she exhaustively describes the police and personal efforts to recover her daughter. On 3rd May 2007, Maddie McCann aged four, disappeared whilst sleeping with her twin siblings in a chalet in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve. Since then, nothing has been heard about the girl.

The police had asked Kate McCann to try to reconstruct in detail and in writing all her activities, meetings, conversations, phone calls and visits, during the days previous to Madeleine’s disappearance. Including the tiniest or most trivial detail. They assured her that this memory exercise would help the investigators follow the leads that might have appeared to her as having gone unnoticed. Kate McCann was used, since her teenage years, to take up her exercise book every day and write some impressions and details of her life. In other words, she kept a diary. However, this was not told to the Portuguese police. She waited for the arrival of the British intelligence service to deliver this more intimate diary. When the existence of this book came to light, the Portuguese police requested a copy from the British. It was denied. A gesture that muddied even further the already tense relations between the Portuguese and British investigators who were collaborating in the search for the girl.

Gonçalo Amaral had spent six years heading the Portimão Criminal Investigation Department when he was put in charge of the investigation. A few days before being taken off the case “due to political pressure” according to his own words, Amaral phoned me early in the morning in my Portimão hotel. It was the 12th September 2007 and until then, the Portuguese officer had avoided any contact with the press: “Justice is done in silence”, he quoted Saint José to kindly evade any requests for interviews. The meeting took place in a Brazilian owned cafeteria in Olhão. A dull and over lit place that would remain open until dawn.

Amaral, who had charged the McCanns five days previously, arrived late, unshaven, his suit wrinkled and with deep shadows under his eyes. He said he had not slept for days. His shabby appearance was one of the most recurrent arms used by the British press to discredit him. In the UK defending the innocence of the McCann couple had become a question of patriotism, the tabloids had gone to the lengths of qualifying the Portuguese officer as a dipsomaniac, a bumpkin and even as suspected of being involved in a paedophile network. They did not pay any attention to Amaral who continued to insist on the theory that Madeleine had suffered a domestic accident and that the parents had disposed of her body to avoid scandal: according to Amaral’s suspicions, the autopsy would have revealed that the McCanns had been sedating their hyperactive daughter and that they had exceeded the dosage. Gerry McCann, a doctor by profession, was at the point of being named for an important position in the British health service when the girl disappeared. A well-connected man with influence at the highest levels.

Although the Portuguese police had not had access to Kate McCann’s diaries, Amaral knew of part of their content due to press leaks. According to these leaks, Kate admitted in her writings that Maddie’s hyperactivity would on occasions, rile her. In any case, Amaral also doubted the veracity of what Kate had written, suggesting that the version of the diary delivered to the British several weeks after the disappearance would have been later manipulated to hide evidence: “If you take this book and write now that it is the 12th September and your impressions..., is that a diary or fiction?”.

The line of investigation opened by Amaral and so dismissed by the British, is just a question of method: “Almost 90% of all missing children cases are the parents’ responsibility”, he says, referring to police statistics. But, in this case, there were more elements of suspicion.

Firstly, the McCanns did not call the police immediately after the disappearance. They first organised, together with the friends they were dining with that night, search patrols around the resort. When they finally called the Portuguese police, the McCann apartment had been infested by amateur investigators contaminating the scene of the events and making it difficult to obtain “clean” evidence. An unreasonable attitude from educated and affluent persons. Any parent having the financial resources the McCanns had would have immediately considered the possibility of a kidnapping with economic motives.

Furthermore, the media circus organised by the McCanns, implied to Amaral the immediate “condemning to death” of the girl in the case that this was an abduction by a paedophile network. The McCanns had clearly disregarded the recommendations for discretion made to them by the Portuguese police.

After having been removed from the case, a few days after our interview, Gonçalo Amaral requested early retirement and left behind 28 years of his profession in order to write the book “Maddie. The Truth of the Lie”. In a few days more than 120.000 copies were sold. In the book, Amaral claims that Gerry McCann hid his daughter on the beach and, later, with the help of accomplices, froze her body and disposed of it. Traces of blood appeared in the apartment and car boot of the McCanns, but the police did not consider that there was conclusive proof to accuse the parents. Before the book “Truth of the Lie” was printed, PJ inspector Paulo Pereira Cristóvao had already written “The Star of Madeleine”, a book in which he relates the investigation and maintains theories very similar to those defended by Amaral. This book also had successful sales.

Now Kate McCann has just presented her book “Madeleine” in Madrid with the aim of raising funds to continue searching for her daughter. Both the Portuguese and British police have abandoned the investigation. The McCanns however, have insisted during these four years, contracting detectives who have followed false leads even to India and offering a two million pound reward to anyone who provides true information leading to Madeleine’s whereabouts.

Kate McCann’s book has also been distributed in the UK and Portugal. Although “Madeleine” is partly based on them, it does not include the diaries that were so zealously denied by the British police to Gonçalo Amaral, whom, no longer a member of the police, continues to request publicly the re-opening of the case whenever he has the opportunity.


http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic16838.html


Last updated at 20:48 13 September 2007
Portuguese newspapers are claiming to have seen Kate McCann's diary and have published what they say are extracts.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1eezaVu6t


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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:05 pm

When the existence of this book came to light, the Portuguese police requested a copy from the British. It was denied.

Words fail me. When that appeared, the PJ had already illegally taken and copies Kate's diary - yet they still out with those bare-faced lies.

As for:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-481645/McCanns-facing-fresh-slurs-Portuguese-press-Kates-diaries.html

McCanns facing fresh slurs from Portuguese press over Kate's diaries



That is a complete, utter disgrace. It is sickening to see that bad elements in the PJ made up that utter sh*t as part of their smear campaign.

Police are said to have made photocopies public prosecutors have already handed over to an investigating judge.

Yet Gonc and co had the gall to claim they hadn't seen the diaries - and to invent those smears in the Mail.

I really, really hope Lord Justice Leveson gets to the bottom of this, and that whoever in the PJ was responsible for this, faces criminal charges.
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Post  lily Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:24 pm

It really stinks, doesn't it? Who could possibly trust those disgusting liars?

Words are not enough........ mad



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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:49 pm

It's just awful; how anyone can read all this and NOT see that bad elements in the PJ were trying to frame the McCanns, I do not know.

Truthseekers? That's a laugh. The truth is right in front of them but they have too much invested in their anti-McCann hate campaign to see it.
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Post  lily Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:56 pm

I would really like to know what role the anti McCann Portuguese posters have in all of this. Some of them must surely have been roped in to help with their spin campaign?

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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:00 am

Indeed; I wonder if we will ever know who all the 'wonderful translators' were? Or the 'locals' who claimed to have secret info?

Fakes, liars and frauds, the lot of them. And what were they all hiding, that it was so important to them that the McCanns were stitched up?

Which of the scumbags translated Kate's purloined diary into Portuguese? Because it must have been someone close to Gonc, and trusted, to do that.
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Post  lily Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:07 am

And what were they all hiding, that it was so important to them that the McCanns were stitched up?

That really is the question, Bonny. What were the Gonc camp involved in? It must be something really awful to have to point the finger away from themselves?
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:11 am

And why the need for a smear campaign in the first place?
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Post  lily Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:16 am

Another good question, Bonny.

Was the Gonc Team intimidated by the McCanns and their friends?
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:24 am

Maybe....it's strange, though.
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Post  lily Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:28 am

It is strange. For instance, the Cipriano woman was not like Kate, was she?
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Post  Sabot Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:04 am


And to think I actually believed some of that shite. But there can't be any doubt now about what happened, although The Nasties are having a jolly good try.

Incidentally, Kate said that The Diary copies printed in The NOTW were almost verbatim, suggesting that the translations were done by a qualified translator employed by The PJ. None of your Morais twisted stuff, although even so, the meaning was altered somewhat.

I can hardly believe what I have been reading this last two days. No wonder Donations have been pouring in.
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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:14 am

Yes, I agree with bb1:

"I really, really hope Lord Justice Leveson gets to the bottom of this, and that whoever in the PJ was responsible for this, faces criminal charges".
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:09 am

Too funny! Guess what the hater wingnuts are doing this morning to prove they aren't hate-filled, obsessive wingnuts?

You guessed it - they are swamping Jeremy Vine with hate mail rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Keep up the good work! thumbsup
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Post  Sabot Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:24 am


That should make another good programme, hopefully with Real Names appended, although I can't see them going that far. So their foul remarks with User Names attached should add a laugh or two. Or Anonymous, whatever.
It's not often that the accused voluntarily offer proof of their own vile attacks, but they do seem to be falling into this trap more and more often these days.
Indeed, keep up the good work.
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:32 am

It's hilarious, isn't it? I also like their ridiculous statements about how comments in the Mail, etc., show that 'everyone' agrees with them.

Do they seriously think that the media doesn't know it's only them hatespamming, every single time? That the hate posts are not Vox Pop, just them at their usual stupid tricks?

I do hope they keep this stupidity up - a few exposes on them would round things off nicely. biggrin
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Post  Sabot Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:52 am


Please God, Bonny. I don't bother to comment on these articles anymore because their comments speak for themselves. And you just get Red Arrowed anyway. Not at all a true reflection.
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:51 pm

You have to wonder just what goes on in hater heads, don't you?

They were all bouncing at the start of the inquiry into Hackgate, convinced that all the material they tell themselves the media have been hiding about the Evil McCanns was going to come out, tick tock, the floodgates are opening.

Then they convinced themselves that the Evil McCanns would never dare give evidence.

Then they convinced themselves that the Evil McCanns would stutter and stammer their way through their evidence, tick tock.

So, in the real world, what actually happened? For two hours, Kate and Gerry McCann gave evidence, on solemn oath, to Lord Justice Leveson, with the eyes of the world on them. And every single normal, decent person watching was horrified by the ordeal they had been put through, and upset.

Not the haters and ghouls, though, they just sneered at the McCanns' clear distress.

Now the haters and ghouls are trying to convince themselves that that evidence didn't really count.

Just how blind, sick and stupid are these people? The self-styled 'Truthseekers' heard the truth on Wednesday - but they are all so corrupted by their blind hatred, they cannot see the truth when it is stuck right in front of their noses.

Tick tock, the floodgates did open - and dumped all over the 'We hate the McCanns' campaign.

It's way past time they all took a reality check and stepped away from their keyboards, if they are not too far gone in their hatred. A lot are, I suspect - they are clearly in need of help from mental health specialists.
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