Paulo Pereira Cristóvão in trouble

Maggs wrote:

bb1 wrote:There's big money in match-fixing, not so much for the prestige of any team - but because so much money is bet on winners and losers.

If - repeat, IF - this is what Cristovao is involved in, he is in very big legal trouble indeed.

Also, he is liable to be lynched by infuriated Portuguese football fans.

About time this corrupt lot were bought to book!

Wasn't it Cristovao, who had something to do with a top Portuguese football club, some time ago?

I wonder why they would travel all the way from Lisbon to Madeira to put money in the refs bank account. I can't see them doing this over the internet or by phone.
This is going to be BIG, when the

So the bank's in Portugal security tapes wouldn't pick up the depositor on film?

crazytony wrote:

Sabot wrote:

crazytony wrote:In this sense, there must be convinced by authorities that the deposit of two thousand euros made in Madeira, the account of Joseph Cardinal assistant referee, has been a 'trap' prepared by Paulo Pereira Christopher.
Hang on a minute, I am getting confused.
Reading the above quote, I get from it, Cristóvão has tried to frame the referee?

That's what I get, Tony. It sounds like an attempt to blackmail The Referee.

Thank goodness Sabot, I thought I was losing it more than usual.

Read my second post on Page One, Tony. I think I have fallen down the proverbial Rabbit Hole. I automatically see perverse corruption when any of that bunch are mentioned in dodgy dealings. Blackmail and fear is what they do.
I am also getting quite good at deciphering Google Speak.

crazytony wrote:

Maggs wrote:

bb1 wrote:There's big money in match-fixing, not so much for the prestige of any team - but because so much money is bet on winners and losers.

If - repeat, IF - this is what Cristovao is involved in, he is in very big legal trouble indeed.

Also, he is liable to be lynched by infuriated Portuguese football fans.

About time this corrupt lot were bought to book!

Wasn't it Cristovao, who had something to do with a top Portuguese football club, some time ago?

I wonder why they would travel all the way from Lisbon to Madeira to put money in the refs bank account. I can't see them doing this over the internet or by phone.
This is going to be BIG, when the

So the bank's in Portugal security tapes wouldn't pick up the depositor on film?

A direct cash deposit is much more difficult to pin down, Tony. But The Referee seems to have been in Africa when this deposit was made.

Whoops.

Oh Heavens - it's Sporting Lisbon! I should have looked at wiki sooner instead of getting lost in googlespeak:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporting_Clube_de_Portugal

Quote:

Sporting Clube de Portugal OM ComM MH IH[3][4] (Portuguese pronunciation: [ˈspɔɾtĩɡ ˈklub(ɨ) dɨ puɾtuˈɡaɫ]) (Euronext: SCP), also known as Sporting CP, Sporting or Sporting Lisbon (Outside Portugal), is a Portuguese multi-sports club based in Portugal's capital city of Lisbon. Although they successfully compete in a number of different sports, Sporting is mostly known for its association football team. Founded in Lisbon in July 1, 1906, it is one of the "Três Grandes" (The Big Three, in English) football clubs in Portugal, with Sport Lisboa e Benfica and Futebol Clube do Porto being the other two clubs, Sporting's two biggest rivals. With more than 100,000 registered club members,[5] its teams, athletes and supporters are often nicknamed Leões (English: The Lions) by its fans.

and:

Clubs Officials

As of May 22, 2011.
[edit]Directive Board
President: Luís Godinho Lopes

Vice-Presidents: Aureliano Oliveira Neves, Francisco Lopes, José Filipe Nobre Guedes, Paulo Pereira Cristóvão

Vowel: Ana Margarida Ulrich, Duarte Nuno Galhardas, João Pedro Varandas, Pedro Cunha Ferreira, Ricardo Henrique Tomás, Rui Paulo Figueiredo

This is about as bad as it gets.....

Sabot wrote:
It sounds to me as though they tried to blackmail The Referee, Joseph Cardinal by depositing money in his bank account.

Ah yes. Thanks Sabot, I'm terrible for just skimming over things and missed it.

Comment made ​​by: Manuel Ramos18h11
Moralist without moral ...

He is getting roasted in the comments of various newspapers - that was CdM.

bb1 wrote:Comment made ​​by: Manuel Ramos18h11
Moralist without moral ...

He is getting roasted in the comments of various newspapers - that was CdM.

And, silence appears to be the operative word in Ms. Morais's world, yes?

crazytony wrote:

Sabot wrote:
It sounds to me as though they tried to blackmail The Referee, Joseph Cardinal by depositing money in his bank account.

Ah yes. Thanks Sabot, I'm terrible for just skimming over things and missed it.

I think we all do that on occasions, Tony. I am just fine tuned to this bunch of corrupt creeps.
They think they own the Effing Universe, and can do whatever they like. This is the story of their lives. And what they actually do is always worse than we think it is going to be.

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But which country the mafia ... justice begins and ends with the police ...?! Then ...! Help ...! Who in acode ...?!
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Comment made ​​by: H.Santos14h13
For something he was gone from where it was PJ inspector (impostor). NOW THE CLUB OF DIFFERENT viscounts bankrupt, that napkin and clean up this mess in the guitar bag.

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And this goes sr. on TV to comment / give alleged moral lessons! ...

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They seem rather angry with Cristovao, don't they? And there are a good few rude remarks about his time in the PJ....why does Morais never mention things like this?

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But which country the mafia ... justice begins and ends with the police ...?! Then ...! Help ...! Who in acode ...?!
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For something he was gone from where it was PJ inspector (impostor). NOW THE CLUB OF DIFFERENT viscounts bankrupt, that napkin and clean up this mess in the guitar bag.

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They seem rather angry with Cristovao, don't they? And there are a good few rude remarks about his time in the PJ....why does Morais never mention things like this?

That's what he gets for being Amaral's buddy!

crazytony wrote:

bb1 wrote:Comment made ​​by: Anonymous 14h43
But which country the mafia ... justice begins and ends with the police ...?! Then ...! Help ...! Who in acode ...?!
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For something he was gone from where it was PJ inspector (impostor). NOW THE CLUB OF DIFFERENT viscounts bankrupt, that napkin and clean up this mess in the guitar bag.

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They seem rather angry with Cristovao, don't they? And there are a good few rude remarks about his time in the PJ....why does Morais never mention things like this?

That's what he gets for being Amaral's buddy!

I think he is perfectly capable of being an arsehole all by himself.

And interestingly enough, The PJ Disciplinary Committee appear to think he was complicit in the beating of Leonor Cipriano. Why else would they want his Pension?

This shaping into being a real mess for the Portuguese people.

crazytony wrote:This shaping into being a real mess for the Portuguese people.

IMO, Tony, Cristovao and anyone else involved in this will be thrown to the wolves, if there is any evidence to support the allegation. It is a bitter irony that there is more national pride involved in football than finding abducted children, but such is the way of the world.

No-one has to take 'sides' in this; if he has been playing dirty tricks in Portuguese football, he is likely to see the inside of a jail cell before too long - he will be made an example of.

And I don't think it would be a good idea for Gonc, Sargento, Flores or Carvalho to stick their heads above the parapet for a while; that lot have decorated too many daytime TV sofas for people NOT to associate them with Cristovao.

crazytony wrote:This shaping into being a real mess for the Portuguese people.

Bloody pathetic if you ask me. Small children abducted and abandoned. Innocent people tortured and convicted. Families lives trashed and ruined. But oh my goodness me, let's do something about a Football scandal. Hang the barstards.

Actually, it doesn't really matter if that's what it takes.

I'm going to ask something that may sound very odd.
Would Cristovao, really be so damned stupid?

bb1 wrote:

crazytony wrote:This shaping into being a real mess for the Portuguese people.

IMO, Tony, Cristovao and anyone else involved in this will be thrown to the wolves, if there is any evidence to support the allegation. It is a bitter irony that there is more national pride involved in football than abducted children, but such is the way of the world.

No-one has to take 'sides' in this; if he has been playing dirty tricks in Portuguese football, he is likely to see the inside of a jail cell before too long - he will be made an example of.

And I don't think it would be a good idea for Gonc, Sargento, Flores or Carvalho to stick their heads above the parapet for a while; that lot have decorated too many daytime TV sofas for people NOT to associate them with Cristovao.

How do we know that the rest of them aren't in on it. Making money from illegal betting?
I know what I think.

crazytony wrote:I'm going to ask something that may sound very odd.
Would Cristovao, really be so damned stupid?

He's ex PJ. It's what they do. So what do you think?

crazytony wrote:I'm going to ask something that may sound very odd.
Would Cristovao, really be so damned stupid?

Yes.

Look at their arrogance, the way they act as if they are the rulers of Portugal, Tony. And look at their very chequered past 'careers'.

The whole lot of them have been arguido-ed more times than I can remember, I think this is Cristovao's fourth or fifth brush with the law?

It is entirely possible that Cristovao didn't expect the PJ to check the path of the money involved; that he resigned so quickly tells its own story, IMO.

Something was bound to bring that clique down sooner or later; I just didn't think it would be football....

The Referee being in Africa at the time of the deposit, didn't help. I bet they never made allowances for that.

Yes I know, Sabot. However, being an ex cop, wouldn't he have known to hide his actions better?
I suppose I can answer that myself. Ex cop, buddies still in the force, he thought he could get away with it. Unfortunately, he obviously didn't count on the referee's honesty, the bank's abilities, and the fact; that there is some honest cops in the PJ.

crazytony wrote:Yes I know, Sabot. However, being an ex cop, wouldn't he have known to hide his actions better?
I suppose I can answer that myself. Ex cop, buddies still in the force, he thought he could get away with it. Unfortunately, he obviously didn't count on the referee's honesty, the bank's abilities, and the fact; that there is some honest cops in the PJ.

Arrogance, Tony, Arrogance. And they are probably all Narcissistic Sociopaths.

I should think the honest and dedicated officers in the PJ are sick to death of this clique getting them all tarred with the same brush, Tony.

As Sabot says, that clique are arrogant - look at the comments about Cristovao moralising about other people.

bb1 wrote:I should think the honest and dedicated officers in the PJ are sick to death of this clique getting them all tarred with the same brush, Tony.

As Sabot says, that clique are arrogant - look at the comments about Cristovao moralising about other people.

He also wrote a book about Madeleine, didn't he?

Sabot wrote:
The Referee being in Africa at the time of the deposit, didn't help. I bet they never made allowances for that.

Sabot, but that was the ideal time, or so crooked Cristavao thought. Just like Gonc used to leak things when he thought the McCann's were out of the way.

He did indeed, Tony, and a right load of bullsh*t and lies it was, too. The 'six bodies' lie was traced to Cristovao's grubby creation, along with a few other forum myths.

He wrote a similar effort about Joana Cipriano; he missed the bits about the torture, and his involvement, out, for some reason.

Not a very nice man at all.