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Post  bb1 Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:17 pm

Utter madness, pouring even more weapons into that situation, though I am sure the neo-nazis will appreciate it.
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Post  lily Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:21 pm

I thought we were supposed to learn from history?
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Post  bb1 Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:33 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1241968/putin-russia-not-interfering-in-ukraine

The European Union agrees to hit Russia with more sanctions over allegations it is behind the unrest in eastern Ukraine.

Absolutely stunning, from the people who set this off with their meddling. I haven't seen Putin handing out cakes to rioters - unlike the US Ambassador.

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Post  lily Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:38 pm

That should set Putin off trembling in his shoes.  Rolling Eyes 
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Post  bb1 Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:35 pm

Oh, Obama's phoned Putin.

Fox version:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/14/obama-speaks-with-putin-as-tensions-in-eastern-ukraine-rise/

Obama speaks with Putin as tensions in eastern Ukraine rise

RT version:

http://rt.com/news/putin-obama-ukraine-crisis-484/

Putin to Obama: Use your influence to prevent bloodshed in Ukraine

We don't have a Cameron version because he took his Mickey Mouse towel off to Lanzarote on holiday. On a Ryanair flight, which must have given the other passengers a bit of a shock.

In fairness, using a budget airline is a vast improvement on Certain People and their First Ladies who are incapable of moving an inch without an entourage that would embarrass a pharoah. Wink 
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Post  lily Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:32 am

Shocked Shocked Heavens no. She cannot. No, must not use that type of transportation when she can have a whole 747 to herself and her chosen few.

Who do you think she is? Mrs. Cameron?  rofl rofl 

This is what O said,

The document was intended to be a followup to Obama saying last month: "No amount of propaganda can make right something that the world knows is wrong."

We have been saying similar.  Pcorneater 
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:54 am

Must be the first time he's told the truth. Is he doing that 'projecting' thing?
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:45 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1242640/ukraine-russia-welcomes-talks-with-separatists

I seem to recall Gaddafi using tanks against civilians....
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:33 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1243094/shots-fired-at-ukraine-airport-as-troops-move-in

Shots have been fired at an airport in Ukraine as troops were deployed to mount an "anti-terrorist operation" against separatists.

Heavy gunfire was heard from inside Kramatorsk air base, in the east of the country, after a crowd of pro-Russian locals had approached.

More follows...


Four dead and rising according to RT. Well, the head of the CIA didn't go to Kiev for nothing, did he?

When someone has worked out why it's OK for US/UK/EU-backed thugs to do this, but it was bad for Gaddafi to do similar, please let me know.
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Post  lily Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:34 pm

Can't help you Bonny.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:49 pm

Best thing the Kiev government could do, IMO, is kick out Greystone, Blackwater, Kerry, Nuland, the CIA and the whole state-wrecking circus. Then sit down with Putin and Merkel and work out a peaceful solution. If the south-east wants to be Russian, let them. If the north-west wants to be European, let them - that is democracy.

That won't happen, though, and Ukraine will slide into civil war and become yet another failed state. It'll be in an even worse situation than most, though, because the IMF, etc., will pump money in and then want it paid back, which will reduce Ukrainians to subsistance level, while resentment grows daily in the south-east.

Kerry, Greystone and the neo-nazis will be happy, though. I don't greatly like Ms Merkel, but she has one advantage over Kerry and co - she's more or less sane.
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Post  lily Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:46 pm

As usual, you have got that in one, Bonny.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:56 pm

I swear Kerry is actually insane, he seems to be channelling Dr Strangelove. That he was still trying to start a war with Syria after it turned out that it was his own allies that were behind the gas attack is beyond frightening. And Hague isn't much better. Neither of them, IMO, should be allowed near anything more challenging than the parish council, their enthusiasm for shedding other people's blood is terrifying.
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Post  lily Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:17 pm

I know what you mean. It was scary and he doesn't exactly inspire confidence. In fact, quite the opposite.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:36 pm

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http://news.sky.com/story/1243094/shots-fired-as-troops-land-at-ukraine-airport

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Yes, pointing guns at kids is always a good way to win hearts and minds. That's four more Molotov cocktail throwers of the future.
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Post  lily Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:49 pm

Insanity really. I feel so sad for the children in the future.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:10 pm

I see McCain is jumping up and down because Europe is doing, well, nothing.

Sen. John McCain of Arizona has dismissed the European Union's sanctions on Russia following the crisis in Ukraine as "almost a joke" during a tour of the Baltic countries.

Speaking in Estonia on Tuesday, McCain said the EU's sanctions against a handful of Russian individuals and one financial institution were "minimal."


It might have helped if Ms Nuland hadn't gotten herself taped declaring F*ck the EU when she was deciding which corrupt unelected president was going to replace the elected corrupt president.

He's a fool if he thinks that will be forgotten by France or Germany.
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Post  lily Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:25 pm

There have been a few fools over in that direction lately, Bonny.

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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:22 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27042646

Ukraine crisis: Russian Lada 'chases tank in Sloviansk'

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It's not often you see a Lada scaring off a tank.
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Post  lily Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:28 pm

Wow. I would say not, Bonny. Interesting....
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Post  bb1 Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:07 am

http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/

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Six Ukrainian tanks in Kramatorsk have reportedly switched sides and are now flying Russian flags.


Must have got fed up with being chased by terrifying Ladas. No doubt Kerry will see tanks flying Russian flags and announce that Russia has invaded.

Bit embarrassing, though - fancy Ukrainians not wanting 'liberated' by neo-nazis and Greystone mercenaries.
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Post  bb1 Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:10 pm



Ukrainian troops sent east by Kiev government to squash pro-Russian uprising kindly donate six armoured personnel carriers and a tank to pro-Russian uprising, to applause from terrifying local ladies.

The CIA really isn't awfully good at this 'intelligence' stuff, is it?
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Post  bb1 Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:44 pm

Another one to give Kerry and co nightmares:



It starts with  a lot of shouting in Russian/Ukrainian, as the personnel carriers and tank are surrounded by terrifying blonde ladies, elderly men, teenagers taking pictures, stray dogs, etc.

After a bit of back-and-forth, there's much cheering, the army guys get down, people dance around in a big circle for a bit, the army guys sort-of line up, and there's more cheering.

Kerry, Hague and co will be SO disappointed no blood was shed.
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Post  lily Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:39 pm

Wow!! That's the way to do it!  rofl rofl rofl rofl 
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Post  bb1 Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:42 pm

Washington's having a very bad week, what with their embarrassing retreat from the Bundy ranch and now this. Wonder when the message is going to get through?
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