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Post  Pedro Silva Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:38 pm

until the abduction in Praia da Luz happened, carvalho was anonymous, from the moment that abduction was known worldwide, carvalho started with his crap, the same crap told through amaral.
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Post  Pedro Silva Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:41 pm

You´re right, I agree:

"There is NO ravine there. Have been personally in 2010 and looked. Have searched GEarth for almost 2 hours. Very small depression with no vegetation so no cover, but nothing that could remotely be described as a ravine. IMO of course !!

Is it all make believe? Nobody normally goes up there; it is too big a climb especially in the hot tourist type weather. Who is going to check? The place is almost isolated. Too scratchy except on the paths and apart from the Obel;isque and the view, nothing to commend it ... nothing."

You´re right, I agree:

"The whole thing is absolute carp, Sadie, and deserves nothing but mockery.

I am beginning to think that Team Gonc set this up with the fake 'psychics' in a final, desperate bit to - what? Smear the McCanns? Pump out just a bit more propaganda ahead of Gonc going on trial for libel?

It's absolutely awful; it has been greeted by near-silence from the people who usually hang on Gonc's every word. Only the terminally stupid like yoyo are paying much attention to it.

It doesn't make any sense at all; they all seem to have forgotten everything they have previously said, what is in the official PJ report - the lot.

If Gonc carries on like this in the dock, Isabel Duarte is going to have him for breakfast."

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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:41 pm

On the golf bag/ravine Theory:

GA: It is possible; indeed that is the thesis, the conclusions that are reached by the police until September of 2007. the child’s body was kept somewhere. In the first night, the body was taken from the apartment and placed somewhere, and it was not detected

Fortunately, after that, the investigation was in the hands of SANE, SOBER people.

Neither the review by senior PJ officers, nor the archiving dispatch, agreed with the nonsense Gonc and co churned out; he is sounding increasingly pathetic with this harping on about the discarded early report.
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:46 pm

I take it Gonc has read the Archiving Dispatch?

To this can be added that, in reality, none of the indications that led to their constitution as arguidos was later confirmed or consolidated. If not, let us see: the information concerning a previous alert of the media before the polices was not confirmed, the traces that were marked by the dogs were not ratified in laboratory, and the initial indications from the above transcribed email, better clarified at a later date, ended up being revealed as innocuous.

Even if, hypothetically, one could admit that Gerald and Kate McCann might be responsible over the child’s death, it would still have to be explained how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and where to they freed themselves of her body within the restricted time frame that would have been available to them to do so. Their daily routine, until the 3rd of May, had been circumscribed to the narrow borders of the ‘Ocean Club’ resort and to the beach that lies next to it, unknowing the surrounding terrain and, apart from the English friends that were with them on holiday there, they had no known friends or contacts in Portugal.


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none of the indications that led to their constitution as arguidos was later confirmed or consolidated
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Post  sadie Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:53 pm

Only my thoughts

Is he/ they deliberately throwing out as many red herrings ar possible? Keep the pros tied up with rubbish whilst propaganda is being shovelled out on the quiet, or in some cases in public. Like the lighting at OC being superb; the view of the window being superb etc. I notice that they are reading what we are saying. This latest offering has something about the front door in it ... but ONLY SINCE we pointed out that it was being bypassed all the time - so was suspicious.

Must make the time to see again what they now have to say about the front door, which of course was in complete darkness with a broken porch light and no light from anywhere else. And hidden from view except from immediately in front due to its recess and being the last bit before the enclosing wall. NOBODY passed by; nobody could see it.


THE FRONT DOOR AMARAL! I have told Pat, BUT Just for you Gonc


******THE FRONT DOOR ******!!

Someone at OC involved, do you think? Gonc

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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:54 pm

This is the kind of numbskull who hangs on Gonc's every word:

Re: Maddie Case: Gonçalo Amaral returns to Praia da Luz
aiyoyo Today at 12:05

Just read on the mccannfile blog that the photo was taken by an unknown man?
Well could police working anonymously be termed "unknown" ...just thinking aloud.

If not, how did the police get hold of those photos? Did the unknown person report this incident to the Police? All very strange.

What the Police are not saying us should make interesting case for Court I would imagine


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What???? How did the police get hold of the photos???? Report this incident - what incident?

There WAS no 'incident' - it's a perfectly ordinary photo, taken for Getty.

Here's the Big Clue - it says so underneath:

Gerry McCann & his wife's cousin Michael Wright, May 9, 2007,
credits Vasco Célio/AFP/Getty Images


You would think they would have heard of Getty Images....

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/Search/Search.aspx?query=z.i.H4sIAAAAAAAEAOy9B2AcSZYlJi9tynt_SvVK1-B0oQiAYBMk2JBAEOzBiM3mkuwdaUcjKasqgcplVmVdZhZAzO2dvPfee--999577733ujudTif33_8_XGZkAWz2zkrayZ4hgKrIHz9-fB8_In7dfLn91es_58_-7X-PX-PXPVtkF_mv-Wv8Gr_GY_r_b_R5XtfX6RfTk2y5_DVH-Pjmx7T6NZO6qtqXWZ0tml9bP_u18P_dHfz6m5n2vzv--Y3p_7_eu9fXzek7A-PX9P7md7Nz8-uvqb8D3K-dnU8tYuYP_B99_po73OOidW-6338dalzaL-xfeO_XpT_qhR1J-Oevj4928devx59PLIzO3_zaeQjF_slQdiyU8w4U9ze_VodQ7J8MZc9CqTtQ3N9EmdzCwB9mSphMu_jtNzRtMRlMW6JJvjKf_prBX792PmnsN-YPJnbucPB-_7Vy19z7_dduViv7Of4wOP5W9sXLqXvR_f7rVLXHKvYv_mqS-1-Zv_D82rOrpfn91zR__Dr4f7P2xhP89WvnmcPA_4N-X_lf2D9-3SaAFv75a7979txNBP1hv8hqDzfvj9-omVar_Ml6OSs9IgafGoA_DjgPdu7j91-HeGhtmwd__TrzWv4QCuEvA-FjQNg92MHvxCZOcPw_fr0X-VXetP9PAAAA__-zwm9kOAQAAA..&rid=4279244&rcat=Location&rt=Praia+da+Luz#5

PS - Just for yoyo, the 'unknown man' he has decided is taking secret photos for the police is called:

VASCO CELIO


You know, the 'unknown man' whose name is on the credits?
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Post  Pedro Silva Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:00 pm

truly a demented brain, gonçalo amaral, could told or wrote such crap, that aiyoyo is also demented.
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Post  Sabot Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:33 pm


Effing Bloody Hell. God give me strength.

You know what he is doing, don't you. Goncalo Amaral has always argued that his book isn't Libellous because it is just a Hypothesis. So he is chucking out a few more Hypotheses to add to the mix. And then he can go into Court and say, "See, I am not rigid. This COULD have happened in lots of ways, but they wouldn't let me finish my investigation. And my book was only one way to go, and I am not the only person who thinks this."
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Post  Maggs Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:35 pm

JP: Let me just show the picture. [Behind HC and GA there is a flat TV screen, Gerald McCann carrying a Golf bag is shown] Here it is, Gerry McCann with the golf bag, I have to stress that this picture was taken by a British photojournalist, Brian Bould.

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
Whats the betting thats not what was said?
Looks like Morais is reading JATYK and nicking my posts. Do your own research Moron.

Perhaps Pedro will check that for us?
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Post  Maggs Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:37 pm

Sabot wrote:
Effing Bloody Hell. God give me strength.

You know what he is doing, don't you. Goncalo Amaral has always argued that his book isn't Libellous because it is just a Hypothesis. So he is chucking out a few more Hypotheses to add to the mix. And then he can go into Court and say, "See, I am not rigid. This COULD have happened in lots of ways, but they wouldn't let me finish my investigation. And my book was only one way to go, and I am not the only person who thinks this."

The good thing is Sabot, he's digging a nice big grave for himself. He knows what happenned to Madeleine and he can sue me if he can afford to wker
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:39 pm

I'm not sure, Sabot, this may be some kind of last, desperate attempt to keep the wheels on his wagon? If so, it's failing...

Then later, we know, because of the indicia, we get that information from the indicia that was found in the car rented 20 days later, that probably a body, a cadaver was placed there and it was likely Madeleine McCann

All together now..

OH NO IT WASN'T

All this time, and he STILL hasn't bothered to understand the forensic reports, and grasp that there were no 'body fluids', or that Madeleine McCann was never anywhere near the car.

Just wait, he's going to be raving about dark plots by the UK government next.
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Dear Julia's lights may be on, but there is definitely no-one at home; any interviewer with a functioning brain cell would have been ROFL-ing at the rubbish coming from Team Gonc.
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Post  Sabot Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:50 pm

It's the only chance he's got in The Libel Case, Bonny. To prove that he didn't actually mean it literally, and was only guessing like everybody else.
Not much of a chance I do agree, but my confidence in Portuguese Judges is seriously dented.
However, his latest Hypothesis is so far removed from reality and possibility that any Judge would have to be a moron.

Oh Dear, I forgot. They found two of those in The Cipriano Case, and more of them in The Michael Cook Case.

No. I don't think that Amaral will win, but I do think he thinks he might.
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bb1 wrote:More Barrel-scraping as Gonc discusses psychics and soil probes, LOL - Page 6 Vlcsnap-2012-03-02-07h23m09s138

Dear Julia's lights may be on, but there is definitely no-one at home; any interviewer with a functioning brain cell would have been ROFL-ing at the rubbish coming from Team Gonc.

Hmm. She doesn't look as though she is all there. But she could have been trying to keep a straight face.
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Post  Maggs Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:59 pm

Just watched the crap, and JD does mention Brian Bould.

Watching Carvalho slobber all over JD is vomit

Stopped at 14:59 – to follow/work in progress [WIP] rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


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Post  crazytony Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:00 pm

that probably a body
Probably a body?
So he is now saying it might not have been a body?

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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:05 pm

Tony, I have no idea what the Voices are saying to Gonc from one moment to the next.
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Post  Sabot Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:07 pm

crazytony wrote:that probably a body
Probably a body?
So he is now saying it might not have been a body?

Interesting. I missed that. It will be, "Could have been" in a minute.
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:11 pm

I always wince when I see this quote from Gonc:

"Let's remember: it is totally logical to find Madeleine's DNA in the home, but absolutely not in a car rented more than twenty days after her disappearance."

No, Gonc, it isn't.

I expect that that is why IT WASN'T THERE.

15/37 ringing any bells?
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Post  sadie Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:27 pm

Dont let me stop your interesting discussion but a bit of nonsense for you:

VASCO CELIO. Did he take the photo of Gerry and his B in L? I have forgotten, but his name was mentioned by Bonny and seemed highlighted a little

http://thealgarvenews.com/apro.php?show_id=316

Published: 2012.02.05

Photo exhibition by Vasco Celio featuring the Formosa estuary in the municipal auditorium

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The foyer of Olhão's municipal auditorium is open until the 23rd February with an exhibition featuring the algarvian photojournalist Vasco Celio, showing us the beauty and magnetism of the Formosa estuary.They are images that do not leave the audience indifferent. Well worth a visit!
The title that Vasco Celio created for this series of photographs in the exhibition ”Visionary Algarve, excentric and Utopian”,which can now be see, not only helps us to appreciate the meaning of images in words, but also adds to the polysemy as a whole with it's many possibilities and multiple meanings. [SNIP]
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Just a bit of nonsense info:
Amarals Villa in Quelfes is only 2 1/2 miles from Olhao, where the exhibition by Vasco Celio was held
... and 7 miles from Faro

Also 7 miles from Sao Bras de Alportel. Is that the place where that poor woman axed herself in the head 4 times and then walked through the house before finally dying outside?
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Wasn't she on to some drug thugs? ... or something like that ...?

Wonder if she met Amaral? NOT saying he is a thug but he WAS the drug cop. ... and WAS attached to Faro PJ, the local cop shop.

Just to make that clear, I AM NOT SAYING that Amaral is a thug, BUT I AM SAYING that he WAS the drug cop.

So did they meet?

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As I said, Just a bit of nonsense

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Post  Sabot Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:33 pm


Thanks, Sadie. I thought it was interesting.

And I would say that Amaral is a Thug.
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Post  crazytony Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:43 pm

bb1 wrote:I always wince when I see this quote from Gonc:

"Let's remember: it is totally logical to find Madeleine's DNA in the home, but absolutely not in a car rented more than twenty days after her disappearance."

No, Gonc, it isn't.

I expect that that is why IT WASN'T THERE.

15/37 ringing any bells?
It would have been logical to find Madeleine's DNA in the vehicle.
Her footwear for a start would have her DNA in them.

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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:57 pm

Ah, but what Gonc means, is not the mixture of McCann-DNA that was found, Tony.

He is yet again trying to tell an outright lie about the non-existent 'body fluids' which he has consistently said came from Madeleine's defrosting, weeks-old corpse.

It's disgusting, actually. And a complete falsehood.

That is indeed the area in which Jacinta Rees was murdered, Sadie. Her murder fell under the remit of Faro police, who ruled she had 'committed suicide'.

Her death occurred when Gonc was working his ticket before his 'retirement' in Faro.
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:03 pm

Oh! D'uh! I didn't make the connection...

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/topic2407-25.html

Gonc and the soil probe!

She arrived in Lisbon from Washington, D.C wheeling a travel-worn suitcase and carrying a metal detector. Inside her suitcase, she’d packed a soil probe and a spade.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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ETA, CSI: Patsy posted the pic of her and Gonc on February 10th; SIC broadcast that disaster of a show on February 17th. biggrin





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Post  lily Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:04 pm

That is indeed the area in which Jacinta Rees was murdered, Sadie. Her murder fell under the remit of Faro police, who ruled she had 'committed suicide'.

Her death occurred when Gonc was working his ticket before his 'retirement' in Faro.


Also, didn't a member of her family say that they believed that she was onto something regarding Madeleine? It was something like that......
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