More Barrel-scraping as Gonc discusses psychics and soil probes, LOL

bb1 wrote:So, we've got Gonc and two of his three Stooges - Arguidos Sargento and Carvalho - all writing malicious and untrue books about the McCann case.

All three of them have a financial interest in pumping out anti-McCann propaganda - however ridiculous their spoutings, the forkers always believe it.

Team Gonc really are not very nice people, are they?

Don't forget the other creep Bonny, Paulo Pereira Cristóvão

Oh, apologies, did I confuse Stooge Cristovao with Stooge Sargento?

because they are crooks, starting with these two, which includes sargento e cristóvão.

Pedro Silva wrote:because they are crooks, starting with these two, which includes sargento e cristóvão.

True Pedro, and a few more could be added

Aha! Myths have sort-of found a reference to 'soil probes' in Gonc's book:

Mark Harrison organises a big meeting to direct the work of the search teams. He has conceived the idea of iron bars, whose production he has consigned to a local company. They will be used to sink holes into the ground which will facilitate the possible release of gas emanating from a decomposing body.

Martin, Eddie, the PJ inspectors and members of the GNR, go over with a fine-tooth comb, all the areas where the body of a child might be found. Eddie runs his nose over kilometres of waste ground, ruins, buildings abandoned or under construction, waterways, pipework, along the beach, under every bush, not forgetting the famous Rocha Negra. No evidence of the presence of a body, no cadaver odour anywhere.

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Que?

He has conceived the idea of iron bars, whose production he has consigned to a local company.

What, Mr Harrison got the local foundry or blacksmith to fire up the forges for 'iron bars'

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Yes, I agree with you Maggs.

Extract from that same show with Criminologist Francisco Moita Flores [FMF] comment: “It is surprising for someone to discover the golf course and a cliff, a cliff with a steep downslide

Yes, it's absolutely amazing that a pair of fake 'psychics' would discover the golf course and cliffs....

http://www.teetimes.info/tag/praia-da-luz/



Boavista Golf Course is located near the town of Lagos in the Algarve, Portugal. Inaugurated in 2002 this fantastic golf course was built to a design by English architect Howard Swan, its layout occupies an impressive clifftop location overlooking Luz Bay on one side and the wide sweep of Meia Praia beach beyond Lagos.



Spooky, innit, the way they psychically knew there was a golf course, and cliffs, there. Oh wait, I think I know how they pulled off this astounding feat...

THEY GOOGLED IT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

Oh, look what else is on the PDL golf course site - just what we have been looking for. A flyover of the terrain:

Myths have found a somewhat more coherent reference to soil probes, by Mark Harrison:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

The search process used personnel to physically, intrusively and invasively explore all areas of disturbance, voids and concealment within the areas searched. The search utilised dogs trained to locate human remains and human blood, ground penetrating radar to detect sub surface disturbance and concealment, clearance teams to remove concealing vegetation, endoscopes to search drains and voids and metal probes to search the ground. These teams were supported by experts in Forensic Anthropology for human bone identification and a professor in geophysics.

You wouldn't think Portugal would advertise golfing holidays would you? How stupid
Especially when they are so hard to find

Talk about dumb and dumber

This has to be their worst stunt ever, Maggs.

Easy money for the 'psychics', though - I would love to know how much they got paid for coming up with 'surprises' gleaned from two minutes watching a video about a golf course on top of the cliffs.

bb1 wrote:This has to be their worst stunt ever, Maggs.

Easy money for the 'psychics', though - I would love to know how much they got paid for coming up with 'surprises' gleaned from two minutes watching a video about a golf course on top of the cliffs.

Never mind Bonny, its all registered for good causes

Morais has translated more of this libellous crap. Following on from:

Then later, we know, because of the indicia, we get that information from the indicia that was found in the car rented 20 days later, that probably a body, a cadaver was placed there and it was likely Madeleine McCann. The FSS handled the information…

We now have:

HC: We will speak about the FSS later on.

GA: I am talking about the information, we only had the information. I’m not talking about what can be proved or not. The information that the police had and was working with. We were at six months from the beginning of the investigation, we should have followed that line, to understand where that body – if there was a body – was placed…

HC: But the question is, how is it possible to keep a body in that cliff without cadaver deterioration?



Crime Scene Photo showing Blue bag inside bedroom's closet,
in Maddie McCann Process, Volume X, page 2563


GA: In that place the body would always decay. The issue with the bag is the following, Gerald McCann said at one point in time that he did not have any sports bag. Mark Harrison, an English expert, who did the planning of the searches that were carried out with the CSI dogs, of the cadaver odour and blood, at the ends of July, early August, puts forward that serious hypothesis - that the body was taken inside a sports bag3, he speaks of a golf bag, of a sports bag – and indeed a sports bag existed. There are photographs taken inside the apartment [rented by the McCanns/5A] immediately after the disappearance, an hour later, and the sports bag is there, inside the closet and is of a darkish blue colour. Thus, those photographs exist, contrary to what anyone can say that they did not own a sports bag – the sports bag was there. A sports bag, even though there wasn't any brand like “Adidas” in the bag, but it was a bag of that kind. So, what happened to that bag, what took place next, other situations ensued relatively to another bag, something that it’s not worth mentioning now here, there are people who also talk about a bag... That cliff area is an important zone, several people talked about it, there were many important events that took place there, events that people saw and suspected, in the golf course area, in the path to the geodesic mark, all in that area. Therefore, it is an area where it is worthwhile to make a search again. But to be searched in the scope of an investigation that is reopened.


Stopped at 13:28 – to follow/work in progress [WIP]

What a load of fecking drivel.

What makes him so sure that that is a 'sports bag'? Or Gerry's bag?

And if it's been photographed in the wardrobe

THEN IT CAN'T HAVE BEEN USED AS A CONTAINER WHEN MADELEINE WAS SUPPOSEDLY LOBBED OFF A 'RAVINE', CAN IT?

Reading the garbage Gonc is spouting, it's easy to see exactly where all the crap that appeared on English-language sites in the early days was coming from - that idiot.

I don't think Gonc or his Stooges believe any of this drivel themselves, frankly - they are only spouting it to keep the money coming in by lounging on daytime TV couches and pretending to be 'case experts'.

They're an embarrassment to Portugal.

I suggest Team Gonc take time to look up the meaning of this:




Because it is EXACTLY what they have done with this garbage about psychics, 'ravines' and golf bags.

Yer. The Bag can't have been in the ravine and in the wardrobe. Or does Gonc think the bag and the body were thrown off off the cliff after the body had been frozen? In which case the body can't have leaked in the car as it would have been impossible to retrieve and would have thawed out by then anyway.

He isn't making much sense, is he. And I can hardly wait for The Libel Trial.

I am 74 and haven't lifted a finger to any sports for 20 years.

I've got a bag like that and it has the label ANTLER on it. It's a carry on bag for flights. Silly bu**er. Ooooer, excuse me. Never used to swear!

My hubby has one too and a sports bag and golf bag as well.



Let's be generous to Amaral

Let's assume that in PT, peeps haven't yet caught up with actual "Sports" bags, and that any bag that could carry things, is termed a sports bag


Where are you Pedro? Can you confirm whether PT does have designated and usually quite distinctive sports bags, or whether a flight carry on bag would normally be called a Sports bag .... purleaze

Sabot wrote:Yer. The Bag can't have been in the ravine and in the wardrobe. Or does Gonc think the bag and the body were thrown off off the cliff after the body had been frozen? In which case the body can't have leaked in the car as it would have been impossible to retrieve and would have thawed out by then anyway.

He isn't making much sense, is he. And I can hardly wait for The Libel Trial.

Well done sabot. Very astute

He's talking absolute sh*t, Sabot, and if he actually believes it himself, he is in an even worse state than I thought.

I cannot help thinking that the Gonc Gang got together for one last 'spectacular', with the 'psychics' as the warm-up. Remember, Morais posted the original psychic show with the words-

Though I'm very sceptic about psychics, I thought this blog readers might found this talk show, broadcast by SIC, last Saturday night at prime time, an interesting show

She forgot to mention that it got ripped to shreds by Portuguese reviewers, and the superstitious Anglo Saxons were pretty unimpressed, too.

Then, what a surprise, along comes Gonc and the Stooges to discuss the ridiculous fake psychics seriously...

If Gonc believes the rubbish he's spouting, then I can only assume he is going to plead insanity to duck out of the libel trial.

Where are you Pedro? Can you confirm whether PT does have designated and usually quite distinctive sports bags, or whether a flight carry on bag would normally be called a Sports bag .... purleaze

Sadie, please do not dignify this anti-McCann propaganda by taking it seriously.

I am sure Portuguese sports bags are just the same as UK and US sports bags.

Is Amaral making stupid naive 'mistakes'.

or,

Is he spewing lies?

or

Is that truly a sports bag? And why didn't he display it more prominently for a photograph, if he believed it to be vital evidence?







Am I missing something?

bb1 wrote:Where are you Pedro? Can you confirm whether PT does have designated and usually quite distinctive sports bags, or whether a flight carry on bag would normally be called a Sports bag .... purleaze

Sadie, please do not dignify this anti-McCann propaganda by taking it seriously.

I am sure Portuguese sports bags are just the same as UK and US sports bags.

I am aware Bonny.

Just having a laugh at someones expence and was hoping that Pedro might have assisted me.

Of course they have sports bags. Real ones.

That was a flight carry on bag. And because it was, that photo was deliberately obscure. IMO of course.

You can't even see how big the bag is. And Yes, probably a Carry On. They will be trying to fit their children in a Carry On Bag as we speak.

And where did it ever say that Gerry took a Golf Bag with him to Portugal? Or is that photo supposed to be proof that he did?

Sadie, HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IT.

NONE OF THEM ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS GARBAGE.

It is just propaganda. They know they are lying, and making it up as they go along.

It is anti-McCann propaganda aimed at Portuguese viewers, nothing more.

These people couldn't give a flying one about Madeleine McCann, or any other child, but she has been a nice little earner for them over the last few years, between TV and their dreadful books.

Haven't you noticed - Gonc, Flores, Carvalho, Sargento and Cristovao are all joined at the hip? They have all made careers for themselves as 'case experts', and that is about to go down the gurgler when Gonc loses the libel action against him.

Stop thinking that they actually believe any of the rubbish they spout; they don't.

bb1, the answer to your question is:

"I am sure Portuguese sports bags are just the same as UK and US sports bags"

They would have to be really seriously brain damaged if they did believe it, Bonny. But what is the point? There won't be a Jury, will there? So are they trying to influence The Judges?