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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:55 pm

More crap has appeared:

HC: Curiously, the whole area was thoroughly examined, that should be said.

GA: As well, yes.

HC: The whole area was examined, the whole area was acquired, the whole area was divided…

GA: There is an important detail…

HC: You do not have access to that area, because today you can see that certain parts are private, curiously, almost in the path that goes to the cliff’s escarpment.

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GA: There is an important aspect and that is the diary of Mrs Kate McCann. There are some who have the opinion the diary was written to be read. At a certain point in time, following the dates given there just a few days after the disappearance, Mrs. Kate McCann says that she is running, doing her jogging – the daughter is missing and she is doing her training – and in there, in that plateau that we are seeing right now, she said that she was climbing it when she saw a number of journalists, of people and that she begun suspecting that the body of her daughter had been found. That is in her diary. She points to that area. When they have hired…

HC: But pointing to that place, is using as basis that the child has lost her life?!

GA: Exactly, it was always like that, since the beginning the parents, at least Kate McCann, have always spoken about the death of the child. Those emails that they delivered [to the PJ] of a clairvoyant that explained where the body could be, beneath the church area, inside a sewer collector.

HC: I cannot agree with that… I believe it was Gerry. Gerry said, “If you think the girl is dead then show me her body”.

GA: Well, perhaps he knows that there is no body. That is another question; I do not know why he says that there must be a body. In order to prove that the child is dead it is not necessary to have a body. Actually, in this case, if we could abstract ourselves of the name of the child that disappeared, of the child’s parents and just look at the facts, in an objective manner and move forward with the investigation, facts would speak for themselves! There is no point in saying that the child is dead, or that the child is alive, what we need is to work the investigation and carry it out to the end, something that was not done. Let us forget for a few moments who is Madeleine McCann, who are Madeleine McCann’s parents, and let us look at the facts objectively. At facts that are in a process, that some have already tried to dismiss as being historical, as if the process had no importance. We will only know the truth – and that is what matters - and in that truth we will know if the child is alive or dead, and where she can be, what happened to her; if we proceed based on those facts.

Stopped at 15:56 – to follow/work in progress [WIP]




I have to ask - What the H*ll is wrong with Gonc? Why is he spouting this rubbish almost on the eve of the libel trial?

And it looks like he is about to start chuntering on about Government interference.
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:57 pm

Mrs. Kate McCann says that she is running, doing her jogging – the daughter is missing and she is doing her training – and in there, in that plateau that we are seeing right now, she said that she was climbing it when she saw a number of journalists, of people and that she begun suspecting that the body of her daughter had been found.

WTF??? Is he trying to say Kate McCann lobbed her child's body into the 'ravine'? Is he off his head totally?
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Post  Sabot Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:04 pm


Jesus, this is just getting worse. But I still think he is chucking out Theories so he can argue that his book was just a Theory. And not by any means the worst Theory.
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:07 pm

If this is a plan, it's not a very good one, unless he is trying to pretend he is insane.

Quite seriously, was he drunk when this was being recorded?
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Post  crazytony Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:07 pm

I take it Gonc has forgotten that Scotland Yard paid a lot of money to have the official files translated?

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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:11 pm

He seems to have lost the little grip he ever had on reality, Tony.

Of course the Yard have had the files PROPERLY translated; even the ones we use bear no resemblance to the garbage coming from Gonc's mouth, so Lord knows what proper, legally-acceptable translations are like.
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Post  Pedro Silva Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:16 pm

of course "Is he off his head totally", but this is what to expect with amaral and his sick followers:
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:17 pm

Similar puzzlement on Myths:

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post68552.html#p68552

I don't know whether Gonc is drunk, has had a breakdown, or what, but he's all over the place.

If he behaves like this in court, he's toast.
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Post  crazytony Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:19 pm

bb1 wrote:He seems to have lost the little grip he ever had on reality, Tony.

Of course the Yard have had the files PROPERLY translated; even the ones we use bear no resemblance to the garbage coming from Gonc's mouth, so Lord knows what proper, legally-acceptable translations are like.
The one annoying the hell out of me right now Bonny, is Morais. She has read the files and she knows they are lying, but still she posts.
Levy 2 come on down mad

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Post  Pedro Silva Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:20 pm

Yes, I agree with you bb1.
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:27 pm

Me too, Tony - she knows this is garbage, she must do. Interestingly, apart from the hopelessly stupid like yoyo, this is being ignored on the hate sites - a blind man could see there is something far wrong with Gonc.

Yet still Morais ploughs on - anything rather than tell or face the truth.
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Post  Sabot Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:33 pm


Well, let's face it, Morais is going to be done and dusted when Gonc goes down. Perhaps this is just a last ditch attempt to save their faces in Portugal.
It won't work. The Portuguese are not stupid, and they are probably just as delighted as we are. They must be rocking in the aisles at this garbage. If they actually needed proof.
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:35 pm

Gonc frantically back-pedalling, is he?

We will only know the truth – and that is what matters - and in that truth we will know if the child is alive or dead, and where she can be, what happened to her; if we proceed based on those facts.

So, Gonc, what happened to the defrosting corpse dripping onto the road.....


Due to the type of fluid, we policemen, experts, say that the cadaver was frozen or preserved in the cold and when placed into the car boot, with the heat at that time [of the year], part of the ice melted. On a curb, for example, something fell from the trunk's right side, above the wheel. It may be said that this is speculation, but it's the only way to explain what happened there.

Bit of a difference, isn't there?
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Post  crazytony Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:40 pm

bb1 wrote:Gonc frantically back-pedalling, is he?

We will only know the truth – and that is what matters - and in that truth we will know if the child is alive or dead, and where she can be, what happened to her; if we proceed based on those facts.

So, Gonc, what happened to the defrosting corpse dripping onto the road.....


Due to the type of fluid, we policemen, experts, say that the cadaver was frozen or preserved in the cold and when placed into the car boot, with the heat at that time [of the year], part of the ice melted. On a curb, for example, something fell from the trunk's right side, above the wheel. It may be said that this is speculation, but it's the only way to explain what happened there.

Bit of a difference, isn't there?
Too late, thanks to Morais and her desperate attempt to elevate her hero, we know he has lost the plot completely.

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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:47 pm

Indeed, Tony.

http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.com/2012/03/morais-get-off-tracks-theres-train.html

Morais would have been well advised to be 'too busy' to transcribe and translate that...what can you call it? Public meltdown?
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:42 pm

Bullsh*t update. Leading on from:

We will only know the truth – and that is what matters - and in that truth we will know if the child is alive or dead, and where she can be, what happened to her; if we proceed based on those facts.


Further gems of insanity have appeared:

HC: But it is the parent’s conviction, or at least is the conviction that is best known, that the child is missing and the parents have reiterated that they believe the child is alive.

GA: I don’t think so…

JP: That she is alive…

GA: I don’t think so, and I’ll tell you why. I will give you an example, Hernâni. There was a certain lawyer, who went to dams searching for a body. Método 3, an investigation agency that worked for the couple, hired that lawyer, to link two cases, the Joana Cipriano case and the Madeleine case. He was searching for a body. Today, defending him, in a libel suit that I have moved against him is the McCann’s lawyer [Isabel Duarte]. So if he says the child is dead 4, why are the McCanns’ defending him? Why are the McCanns in court [against me]? This is the kind of contradictions that no one understands…

JP: Indeed no one understands that. Let us watch now…

HC: Let us go to the apartment.

JP: Let us go to the apartment. Let us tackle the facts, the facts mentioned by Gonçalo Amaral.

HC: Facts.

JP: Fact: May, five years since Madeleine McCann disappeared. After we saw the considerations made by the mediums in the TV program “Até à Verdade”, we are going to ask someone who was involved in the process, Gonçalo Amaral and Hernâni Carvalho our man on the field. They have returned to Praia da Luz to the very place, to the bedroom door, from where the child disappeared.

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17: 17 Cut to Apartment 5A, Praia da Luz, Algarve



Stopped at 17:17 – to follow/work in progress [WIP]


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'Our man in the field'? He's only in PDL, not smuggling out a report from Syria Rolling Eyes

And why on earth is Gonc rabitting on about Marcos yet again? This is utter rubbish.

And is it me, or is Carvalho sounding less than impressed? I don't know, and I don't think I greatly care, either.

Ms Duarte must be so, so happy, viewing this. biggrin
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Post  Maggs Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:08 pm

GA: I don’t think so, and I’ll tell you why. I will give you an example, Hernâni. There was a certain lawyer, who went to dams searching for a body. Método 3, an investigation agency that worked for the couple, hired that lawyer, to link two cases, the Joana Cipriano case and the Madeleine case. He was searching for a body. Today, defending him, in a libel suit that I have moved against him is the McCann’s lawyer [Isabel Duarte]. So if he says the child is dead 4, why are the McCanns’ defending him? Why are the McCanns in court [against me]? This is the kind of contradictions that no one understands…

Nice one Gonc, you bloody idiot.
The McCanns are not defending him.
Did you forget it is your pretendy EX wife and your brother in court against you in this same case.
Oh and I shouldn't forget the head of the lawyers association

Marcos list of witness's

Ana Maria Calado, diretora aposentada do estabelecimento prisional de Odemira;

Ana Paula Teixeira, Guarda Prisional, com domicílio profissional no E.P. Odemira;

Alexandra Sofia de Sousa Manjua Leal, com domicílio na Câmara Municipal de Portimão e com domicílio pessoal na Av. Afonso Henriques, Bloco E-AQ, 8500-Portimão;

António de Sousa Amaral, com domicílio na Quinta da Mata, nº. 4, 3º., esq., Corroios

António Marinho Pinto, Bastonário da Ordem dos Advogados
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:18 pm

Oh Lord spare us, now he is on about that window again, and making statements which are outright libel:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/03/maddie-case-goncalo-amaral-returns-to.html#comment-form

17: 17 Cut to Apartment 5A, Praia da Luz, Algarve

HC: Madeleine McCann disappeared on the 3rd of May of 2007 from this apartment in Praia da Luz. From the apartment 5A of the Ocean Club. Moita Flores, for example, does not believe the child could have been taken through this window. In fact, the window is right next to the door [HC points to the door right next to him, turns to Gonçalo Amaral and asks him] Objectively, I would ask you if, in your perception, would it be possible for the little girl to have disappeared through this window?

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Crime Scene Photos, depicting forensics work done on Madeleine & the twins' bedroom window,
in Maddie McCann Process, Volume IX, page 2319

GA: It is our conviction, and from the indicia that were collected during those initial months, that it would be materially impossible for this window to be the means of entry or exit, particularly since there are no traces of a break-in. What we have instead are vestiges of a simulation inside - namely a simulation where the window is opened. There are fingerprints of Kate McCann opening the window towards her left hand-side, whereas she says the window has always been closed, with the shutters always down and therefore all these... There are no footprints or anything similar. Undeniably, this window, as I have said before, is a window ‘facing the world’ and it is where the solution of the case lies.


Stopped at 18:20 – to follow/work in progress [WIP]



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Post  Pedro Silva Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:19 pm

amaral, carvalho, you need therapy.
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Post  Sabot Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:22 pm


Who said Isabel Duarte is only allowed to Defend The McCanns?
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:25 pm

Sabot wrote:
Who said Isabel Duarte is only allowed to Defend The McCanns?

It's the same crazy, conspiraloon logic as Bennett, when he accused Mr Gunnill of being an agent of the McCanns and Carter Ruck right in front of a High Court judge, IMO.

Gonc should never, ever have gone on TV in this state.
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Post  sadie Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:07 pm

bb1 wrote:Oh Lord spare us, now he is on about that window again, and making statements which are outright libel:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/03/maddie-case-goncalo-amaral-returns-to.html#comment-form

17: 17 Cut to Apartment 5A, Praia da Luz, Algarve

HC: Madeleine McCann disappeared on the 3rd of May of 2007 from this apartment in Praia da Luz. From the apartment 5A of the Ocean Club. Moita Flores, for example, does not believe the child could have been taken through this window. In fact, the window is right next to the door [HC points to the door right next to him, turns to Gonçalo Amaral and asks him] Objectively, I would ask you if, in your perception, would it be possible for the little girl to have disappeared through this window?

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Crime Scene Photos, depicting forensics work done on Madeleine & the twins' bedroom window,
in Maddie McCann Process, Volume IX, page 2319

GA: It is our conviction, and from the indicia that were collected during those initial months, that it would be materially impossible for this window to be the means of entry or exit, particularly since there are no traces of a break-in. What we have instead are vestiges of a simulation inside - namely a simulation where the window is opened. There are fingerprints of Kate McCann opening the window towards her left hand-side, whereas she says the window has always been closed, with the shutters always down and therefore all these... There are no footprints or anything similar. Undeniably, this window, as I have said before, is a window ‘facing the world’ and it is where the solution of the case lies.


Stopped at 18:20 – to follow/work in progress [WIP]



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SADIE YAWNS ... here we go again!

Back to the window again 'facing the world'.


Front door gets a passing reference, "it is right next door to the window is the intimation, so in other words 'facing the world'.


What rubbish. Someone standing by that window would not be able to see the front door even, let alone have it within touching distance. The front door was deeply recessed in a black hole after dark Hidden, out of sight.

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On that car park, walking to and fro from the car park entrance to the pathway, or the stairs that lead to the apartments, the front door is completely hidden from view.


It is around the corner, deeply recessed and as the photographs show in a black spot.


Before the trees were butchered back, no-one would have seen that front door from anywhere, unless visiting 5A, or going on a small part of the car park that nobody used at the time.


Clearly Amaral and Carvelha are trying to prove that Madeleine died in 5A; that no-one could have abducted her because the window was 'facing the world'. They are manipulating their words to make it sound as tho the front door was immediately next door so it too was 'facing the world' and clearly visible after dark.

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Deceitful lies. IMO, of course



The front door was even hidden from peeps entering the property by its only front route, which was through the car park entrance

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And another for good luck, in full daylight, even with all the trees butchered and everything as exposed as possible.


Great view of the front door (and Window) init?

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See:
https://jatyk2.forumotion.co.uk/t1186-not-the-window-pat-the-front-door

For a full proof that the FRONT door was so completely hidden and dark that it was a doddle to get in there. The FRONT DOOR was the obvious entry and exit point. Why is Amaral doing his utmost to deny that?


Is it so that he can say Madeleine died in 5A? Is it just to protect his money making ventures?


or,
... Is he protecting someone with connections to OC? Possibly someone very senior? If a front door key was used then it implies that someone from OC was involved

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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:28 pm

More has appeared.

Sadie, watch your blood pressure! Everyone else, I am sure Ms Duarte already knows Gonc has appeared on TV talking libellous bollox.

Following the window:

HC: As the investigators put it, no one enters through a door and then exits through a window!

GA: It is a fact and if you watch closely, the door it is less exposed than the window. It would be much more spectacular to exit through the window rather than the door, which is rather more hidden, more receded than the window. Therefore, this door would be a more obvious away to exit.

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18: 46 The scene then changes with both HC and GA walking past the Ocean Club’s information board at the streets intersection. As they pass underneath another of the apartment’s windows, the living room window, GA draws HC’s attention to it and comments:

GA: That is the other window where inside is that sofa where blood vestiges were found, which the FSS said that it could belong to Madeleine McCann…

HC: Behind that window?

GA: Yes, on the inside.

HC: Where the blood vestiges were found by the floor?

GA Yes, by the floor and where there was also cadaver odour, besides the blood.

19:11 Camera pans briefly at the rear of Apartment’s 5A [garden corner where cadaver odour was also detected] before focusing in the rear access staircase to the same living room area GA was just referring to. Immediately afterwards GA and HC enter the small gate that opens directly to a public road and climb the stairs.

HC: So, this was usually the service entrance; the street access of apartment 5A, right?

GA: Exactly, the apartments, or rather the manner in which that group of tourists entered their apartments was from the rear; both the McCann couple as well as the others, which were on the ground-floor, on the other side. This raises questions such as… The path that is there [pointing towards the alleyway] was the one used by the other members. When Jane Tanner said that she goes up the street, and walks around in order to go home, that to us rings hollow because this was the usual pathway. Gerald McCann himself goes as far as to say that when he came to see his daughter at about 9pm, that he does not enter through here [sliding doors]; even though he was in a hurry to reach the bathroom. Yet he chooses to walk the longest path [round gesture with extended arm], to open the door [main entrance] with the key.


Stopped at 20:03 – to follow/work in progress [WIP] - 5 minutes to go!


Yes, Gonc - and whose blood was it? Besides A PORTUGUESE TILER'S BLOOD.

And what have we all been saying about the door? The one Gonc insisted there were no spare keys for?

I really cannot believe he is coming out with this on TV.

Five minutes to go? Oh, can't wait for what's coming next....
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:29 pm

this door would be a more obvious away to exit.

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Post  Sabot Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:36 pm


This is beginning to sound like an episode of Who Dunnit.
In the parlour by the window with the sofa.
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