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Post  crazytony Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:42 pm

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bb1 wrote:I can report that her last public communication consisted of blowing kisses at JCL over some bit of non-news:


Joana Morais ‏ @xklamation Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 21h
@JillyCL Indeed, we have very similar tastes smile have a great weekend, muitos beijinhos and a big hug, saudades


She's probably busy scrubbing her hard-drive too. Pcorneater

I thought Levy did that. They would all be better occupied cleaning up their computers.
Except you can't. Do they know that?
Well they can, If they take the drive out of their computer and hack at it with a saw biggrin
As for the ex-cop's, the investigating officers only have to take the hard drives out and plug them into a USB port connection and read away until their hearts content.


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Post  lily Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:43 pm

bb1 wrote:Oh. I wonder if this is one of the reasons it is the Oporto police who are working with the Yard, and the Algarve lot are being kept well away?

Now there's a thought, Bonny. Why would they want the Algarve lot around indeed? Pcorneater
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Post  Sabot Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:45 pm

bb1 wrote:Oh. I wonder if this is one of the reasons it is the Oporto police who are working with the Yard, and the Algarve lot are being kept well away?

Well, let's face it, nothing about The Algarve PJ has been looking particularly healthy for quite some considerable time. Especially since most of them went piling into Court to prop up Amaral's weird theories and libellous statements.
And then there is all that falling down stairs and leaking to The Press. Would you trust any of them?
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Post  bb1 Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:48 pm

The Yard are bound to know about all this - much more than has reached the public domain - considering that the Portuguese anti-corruption police are currently trying to find the whereabouts of some £3,000,000 involved in a rather bizarre transfer with Manchester United....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2129517/Bebe-transfer-probed-Portuguese-police.html
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Post  crazytony Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:00 pm

bb1 wrote:The Yard are bound to know about all this - much more than has reached the public domain - considering that the Portuguese anti-corruption police are currently trying to find the whereabouts of some £3,000,000 involved in a rather bizarre transfer with Manchester United....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2129517/Bebe-transfer-probed-Portuguese-police.html
£3,000,000
That, is a lot of money to go astray Eek

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Post  Maggs Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:07 pm

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bb1 wrote:The Yard are bound to know about all this - much more than has reached the public domain - considering that the Portuguese anti-corruption police are currently trying to find the whereabouts of some £3,000,000 involved in a rather bizarre transfer with Manchester United....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2129517/Bebe-transfer-probed-Portuguese-police.html
£3,000,000
That, is a lot of money to go astray Eek

Not really Tony, if you are pay rolling crooks or giving handouts to crooked friends, that have no job.
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Post  Sabot Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:45 pm


Yes. And not just Referees.
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Post  bb1 Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:06 pm

The personal lives of men of the whistle was searched and the 'sins' of the family used as blackmail.

And I am sure he didn't start with referees, either. Allegedly.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if we didn't get to the root of those bizarre, hole-in-corner legal decisions that Ms Duarte was unaware of until the likes of smiffy or Montclair/Carolina posted them on the internet before too much longer.
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Post  Sabot Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:16 pm

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Yes. And not just Referees.

I'm sure he was ever so gentle with Leonor Cipriano ....

And with The Judges, I expect, HB.
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Post  crazytony Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:24 pm

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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This is all really quite stomach churning. Obviously the charge of Defamation is just the beginning. There are bound to be more charges to follow.
I wouldn't say much for his chances in prison unless they keep him in isolation.
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Post  bb1 Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:35 pm

I wouldn't say much for his chances in prison unless they keep him in isolation.

Can you imagine the treatment he would get from other prisoners? A dirty ex-cop who's allegedly fond of using his fists on women, who tops that off by single-handedly tries to corrupt Portuguese football, players, referees, the lot?

I don't think he'd be swaggering about for long, somehow.

I also don't think that he will be the only one in court before this is over; I shudder to think what is on those hard-drives he doesn't want the PJ to see.
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I don't think he will be in The Dock alone either, Bonny. He didn't run his terror tactics all by himself. That takes organisation and assistance. But I shan't speculate about his henchmen at this stage. It will all come out shortly.
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Post  Max Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:19 am

bb1 wrote:I will try to find out more about this allegation; if it's what it looks like, then - yuk, what a sleaze.

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/exclusivo-cm/cristovao-vigiava-pecados-de-rui-patricio

Private security
Christopher watched sins of Rui Patricio
Learn about new developments in the case 'Christopher Pereira, "the vice president that suspended Sporting functions.


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Rui Patricio has seen in recent months involved in a 'scandal' of love. Newly married to Joan Pereira was given as boyfriend Liliana Aguiar. The player is now separated.

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I get the impression the Portuguese media has been sitting on a pile of dirt and scandal about Cristovao and co, and has just been waiting for an excuse to publish it?


Here's the rest of the article - his history in the PJ is interesting -


Cristovao watched sins of Rui Patricio

Learn about new developments in the case ' Pereira Cristovao, "the vice president that suspended Sporting functions.
April 14 2012N Number of votes (19) Reviews (16)
By: Eduardo Damaso / Tania Laranjo / Henrique Machado




Paulo Cristovao watched the Sporting players. He wore the cheerleading for gathering information and had an 'army' of private security guards. Rui Patricio, goalkeeper the coveted green and white, was a target. Their 'sins' marriage, the relationship with the host Liliana Aguiar when he kept his marriage to Joan Pereira, were known to the ex-'vice' of Sporting. Informants Cristovao followed in real time episodes of the emotional life of Patrick, but also the players' hangouts. Some of the known cases have occurred with professionals and Carrillo Rubio, but also one of the soccer players on the eve of an important game. In these situations, the players found to be followed, even one of them entering a Police station in the Expo area, ask for the identification of the persecutors. In all cases, were the players 'reassured' with the fact that these people connected to the club. It was never explained exactly need to know the contours of their private lives.
The safety and information were the action fields of the vice president of Lions, with responsibility for facilities and assets. Were cleared in the investigation of Cristovao connections to a group of police officers in active, helping him to gather information. In statements made to the PJ, moreover, made it clear that your business information and was working with many people, including with the company Rui Martins, who made the deposit of two thousand euros to the account of Joseph Cardinal referee.
Cristovao denies being involved in the payment of the sum to the man's whistle. Ensures unaware that Rui Martins had gone to Madeira and remember it was he himself who provided the documents to the PJ.
In fact, how the complaint came to the researchers it is still curious. The deposit was made on December 21 in Madeira, about 15:00. Rui Martins returned to the mainland during the night and at 09:00 the next day, Godinho Lopes had the letter supposedly from a woman to terminate Joseph Cardinal. In the envelope were also copies of the deposit made on behalf of the umpire, that these documents Godinho Lopes immediately gave account of Fernando Gomes. All that was left to the leaders of the Portuguese Football Federation a known solution. Cardinal has been removed and new arbitrator was chosen for the meeting.
SECURITY INSPECTOR PJ
Paulo Pereira Cristovao, 43, entered the PJ to 22 as security. Five years later, he ran to the framework of criminal investigations and joined the Central Directorate for Combating Gangsterism (DCCB).
Collaborated on research such as the fight against 'Mafia East', the 'Gang of ATM, "and called" Joana case "in 2003, following the murder of eight year old girl in Figueira, Portimão. In this process, eventually charged, tried and acquitted by torture of the child's mother, Leonor Cipriano. Was the subject of disciplinary procedures for misuse of 800 euros in the DCCB and attempted rape of a complainant. In the first case, was convicted in 2004, ended the second complaint filed by forfeit. Moved in 2005 to fight economic crime of PJ.After a period of unpaid leave, left the PJ in 2007. He set up the security company Primus-Lex ran for the presidency of Sporting in elections who lost to Jose Eduardo Bettencourt, and in 2011, competed in the lists of Lopes Mendes to vice president of the club.

LOPES GODINHO REQUIRED THAT THE FEDERATION acted
After receiving the letter to report corruption to the referee Joseph Cardinal Godinho Lopes, president of Sporting, urged the president of the federation to take a position. Fernando Gomes assured that alienate the Arb

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Post  bb1 Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:06 pm

SECURITY INSPECTOR PJ
Paulo Pereira Cristovao, 43, entered the PJ to 22 as security. Five years later, he ran to the framework of criminal investigations and joined the Central Directorate for Combating Gangsterism (DCCB).


Nothing like setting a fox to guard a hen-house, is there? Many, many thanks, Max.


Was the subject of disciplinary procedures for misuse of 800 euros in the DCCB and
attempted rape of a complainant. In the first case, was convicted in 2004, ended the second complaint filed by forfeit.



Why am I not surprised? mad mad mad
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Post  bb1 Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:34 pm

What on earth?

http://m.jn.pt/m/newsArticle?contentId=2420829&page=1



Cristóvão made a fortune spying for Lehman Brothers
Posted yesterday at 00:30
CARLOS VARELA And Nuno Miguel Maia

Paulo Pereira Cristóvão received over 1.2 million of a subsidiary of U.S. bank Lehman Brothers. The vice president made the Sporting espionage charges and difficult.
The company in question is the White Servicing Company, in Lisbon, with activity related to the recovery of bank credit and risk analysis. According to information collected by JN, 2009 was a major customer of Lex Primus, a company created by former Inspector of Judicial Police accused the assembly consisting of a trap to falsely indicate the referee Joseph Cardinal corruption.


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I have absolutely no idea what that is about, but I am sure the investigators from the PJ anti-corruption squad will.

FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!

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Post  bb1 Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:51 pm

After a period of unpaid leave, left the PJ in 2007.

I wonder if that is why so many comments mention him being kicked out of the PJ?

It sounds as if he was suspended without pay after he was disciplined over the misuse of €800, and the alleged attempted rape, and then 'retired' whether he liked it or not.

I wonder, is it starting to dawn on the forkers that they have been hero-worshipping a bunch of gangsters?

We all knew they were bad, but even here and on J4:

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t3968-more-corruption-paulo-pereira-christopher

jaws are dropping at the alleged extent of it, at the way this clique seems to have their tentacles in every part of Portuguese society.
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Post  bb1 Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:23 pm

I am finding it hilarious that the forkers are trying to tell themselves that Arguido Cristovao has nothing to do with their adored Gonc, oh dear me no, perish the thought!

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Oh look, here's Gonc asking who Cristovao is and why he is standing next to him:

 Cristóvão refuses to co-operate with PJ - Page 4 Gapc

And that wasn't the same Paulo Pereira Cristóvão as the Paulo Pereira Cristóvão who was at Gonc's birthday bash and joined Gonc and the other heavies in threatening Marcos Correia and others.

I suppose the forkers do know it was Gonc and Cristovao who were the aggressors, and that CdM had to publically apologise to Correia for what they printed in error?

No? Well, they do now. biggrin


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Post  bb1 Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:25 pm

I wonder if Cristovao's 'security firm' had anything to do with Gonc's 'security firm'?

Surely not!

http://www.linkb2b.pt/empresas/goncalo-amaral-508737729.php

ENTITYGonçalo Amaral, Lda
TRADE NAMEGonçalo Amaral, Lda
ADDRESSAfonso Henriques Avenue, Building 'The Factory' Block and Aq
LOCALITYPortimão
POSTAL CODE8500-502 Portimão


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Post  Sabot Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:31 pm


Is that the same Paulo Cristovao who wrote a libellous book about The McCanns, and the same Paulo Cristovao who was charged with Torturing Leonor Cipriano along with Goncalo Amaral when they worked together at Portimao?
I can't help wondering if they all had bags over their heads while the Torture was going on.
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Post  bb1 Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:37 pm

I do believe it is the very same Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, Sabot.

I wonder if that is why the forkers are in complete denial?

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I hate to break it to them, but Gonc is inevitably going to be dragged into this scandal. Alleged scandal, of course!
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Post  Maggs Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:39 pm

Sabot wrote:
Is that the same Paulo Cristovao who wrote a libellous book about The McCanns, and the same Paulo Cristovao who was charged with Torturing Leonor Cipriano along with Goncalo Amaral when they worked together at Portimao?
I can't help wondering if they all had bags over their heads while the Torture was going on.

Yes thats the one Sabot.

So he was suspected of attempted rape, was he?

How come he was allowed to set this up then?

Head of Portugal's new foundation for missing children, in 2007 vomit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-501093/McCanns-arrested-abandoning-Madeleine-missing-childrens-boss-says.html

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Post  Maggs Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:41 pm

bb1 wrote:I wonder if Cristovao's 'security firm' had anything to do with Gonc's 'security firm'?

Surely not!

http://www.linkb2b.pt/empresas/goncalo-amaral-508737729.php

ENTITYGonçalo Amaral, Lda
TRADE NAMEGonçalo Amaral, Lda
ADDRESSAfonso Henriques Avenue, Building 'The Factory' Block and Aq
LOCALITYPortimão
POSTAL CODE8500-502 Portimão



Its probably what gave Gonc the idea of making a few millions, like Cristovao did, Bonny.
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Post  bb1 Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:50 pm

How come he was allowed to set this up then?

Head of making sure they stay missing, more like.

I wonder what the reaction in the UK press would have been if they had known then what is known now about Cristovao?

Misuse of PJ funds? Rape allegations? Torture allegations? Wiretapping and blackmail?

Spying on footballers and officials to terrorise them - allegedly Wink .

Framing the parents of missing little girls would be a breeze for someone as allegedly depraved as that.

IMO, he showed his fear when he refused to let his former colleagues see his files. He is running scared - and I doubt if he is the only one.
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