Scraping right through the bottom of the barrel

No, it actually doesn't matter, they're all the same.

How's this for sheer insanity, from a Hounder:

The film.

At 46 seconds into the film Kate passes a kitchen cupboard of sorts.

Isn't there a microscope on one of the upper drawers?

What for?

Surgical gloves + microscope equals what? Research on childrens' hairs? On drugs in childrens' hairs? Or residue of blood?
Or something to do with IVF?

FFS!

How about, Souvenir of student days? It doesn't have to be 'for' anything, besides decoration.

And what on earth is with them, with their obsession with rubber gloves being sinister? They're sold by the hundreds in supermarkets.

Normal people - which clearly lets them out - use disposable gloves for all sorts of jobs, from cleaning silver to potting out plants.

What a bunch of wierdos they are.

bb1 wrote:No, it actually doesn't matter, they're all the same.

How's this for sheer insanity, from a Hounder:

The film.

At 46 seconds into the film Kate passes a kitchen cupboard of sorts.

Isn't there a microscope on one of the upper drawers?

What for?

Surgical gloves + microscope equals what? Research on childrens' hairs? On drugs in childrens' hairs? Or residue of blood?
Or something to do with IVF?

FFS!

How about, Souvenir of student days? It doesn't have to be 'for' anything, besides decoration.

And what on earth is with them, with their obsession with rubber gloves being sinister? They're sold by the hundreds in supermarkets.

Normal people - which clearly lets them out - use disposable gloves for all sorts of jobs, from cleaning silver to potting out plants.

What a bunch of wierdos they are.

If they are talking about the Hideho film that Candyfloss posted on Haverns and AnnaEsse posted on MM then they are just about as wrong as they possibly could be. No surprises there then.

It isn't at 46 seconds (by then the waves are washing on the shore). It is between 32 and 35 seconds.

There are no drawers shown. Those flat things that you put objects on are usually referred to as SHELVES.

And thirdly there is NO MICROSCOPE at all. But there is a bulky old style IRON. Typical of the kind of thing you find in rented villas.





As for the rubber glove on ONE of Gerry McCann's hands, perhaps he believes that hygiene when handling what looks like rubbish is a good idea. Doctors do tend to think along those lines, shocking as though that may sound. Maybe picking things out of a bin where the bag has burst for example would be a logical explanation? I've no idea what he was doing other than clearly getting rid of rubbish or why he would be wearing a glove but my reason is a perfectly reasonable one.

Very quiet at the moment, isn't it. I wonder what they are plotting.

But I see that Panda still doesn't know that Dr. Oldfield checked the appartment twice. Once when he didn't go in, and once later when he did. How can one combat such abysmal ignorance?
They mix up everything, ignore The Files, and then accuse The McCanns and their friends of lying.

Well they sure have mixed up that video scene. Wrong time, wrong name for the part of the furniture and completely bizarre idea of what the object on the shelf was. Is absolutely clear that the object they had in mind fitted the hate and they didn't for one second step back and think it might actually be something perfectly normal.

Its a clear case of HATE BLINDING THEM so that they cannot even see the REALITY in front of their own eyes..

And thirdly there is NO MICROSCOPE at all. But there is a bulky old style IRON.

Oh good God. I couldn't actually face watching it, I must confess.

I really don't understand why they are obsessed with disposable gloves - they must have horrible, wrinkled hands, covered with rashes.

I have an old microscope I inherited at some point. I also have a box of disposable gloves.

And no, I am not conducting drug tests or IVF experiments.

What peculiar people they all are, that they can concoct such bizarre fantasies around household objects. And then, as Sabot says, accuse normal people of being liars.

Oh and for good measure when you analyse the "broken green wristband on the floor, possibly ripped open/apart with some force", its clear that it probably is no such thing.

First off, its not on the floor but on some kind of work surface. Second, it looks awfully like the leaves off some kind of toy flower to me. But then I am not coming to the film with some kind of hateful idea stamped all over my mind that I am searching for anything that would fit my notion that Kate and/or Gerry are violent types. That HATE really does BLIND you to REALITY.





Literally the first image I found when I googled "toy flowers" has an uncanny resemblance to the object in the film even the colours are very similar.

To me the red and pink thing looks like a plastic flower which would attach to the front of the green thing, which looks like the stem and leaves, they are the green bits on the bottom of the whatsit. LL

Come on now. Why wouldn't one nip to the nearest Medical Suppliers and buy a Microscope when one is sojourning in a foreign country, after ones daughter had been abducted? No one would notice. Would they?

No, and no-one would notice you buying the other essentials for drug-testing, IVF, either, Sabot.

Ten out of ten to Greenink and LL for having better eyesight than me, it's a child's toy, sort of like this one:

Yes, that's the sort of thing - I don't think they even have a name, not that it matters.

So, they managed to conjure yet more insane, hate-riddled fantasies out of a discarded toy?

I have not spent a great deal of time analysing the claims of the Haters before. I have tended to stick to the facts which are apparent in the case files.

But in a matter of seconds I have debunked three crackpot ideas which they have come up with and shown them to be unable to see beyond the end of their hateful noses.

Just imagine what specialist police officers with access to the original film can do. The experts must be in stitches every time these crackpots come up with these stupid ideas.

And as for those yellow wristbands which one of their number has introduced into the film, I would love that person to provide some stills or a precise timing as to when they are actually visible. I suspect he is over-EGGing the pudding. LOL

That Thread is running to eight pages at the moment. But I thought they had already done The Glove Thingy.
Sheesh, I must be bored if I am reduced to reading that load of old rubbish. So God knows what they are if they are reduced to repeating it all.

Hey, don't knock it, Sabot, they have a seven-page one about some Secret Stuff one of them claimed a Secret Person told them in a pub.

Yes, of course they did.....

I sometimes look at this rubbish, and think, They cannot possibly believe this dross, can they?

Sadly, all the evidence suggests they do.


Just imagine what specialist police officers with access to the original film can do. The experts must be in stitches every time these crackpots come up with these stupid ideas.

You saw them, Greenink. They turned:

An iron.

Disposable household gloves.

Into home drug-testing and IVF.

And

A cheap, broken, plastic toy


Into:

there is a broken green wristband on the floor, possibly ripped open/apart with some force.

Someone in a hurry perhaps?


Then they wonder why the real world can't be bothered with them, and regards them as a source of amusement at best, and as VILE SICKO TROLLS the rest of the time.

Here's another one at it now, over that flip chart Gerry McCann was photographed using after Madeleine was abducted:


I'm continually baffled by HOW a FLIP CHART is available at a Family holiday centre in the Algarve in Portugal.

I know, fancy a backward country like Portugal having easels with giant writing pads on them!

Seriously - that is mind-boggling.

Staff training? Rotas? Anything ringing bells? No? In hounderworld, flip-charts are rare and exotic things, clearly.

It's like that business of the photographs of Madeleine that were run off soon after she was abducted.

The McCann-haters all decided that, because the nearest print shop didn't sell that paper, it must be a big, fat lie.

The concept of anyone having their own photo paper - which you can order online! Yes, you can! - was totally beyond their comprehension.

I do wonder at times what kind of strange, backward lives they all lead, that flip charts and photo paper baffle them so much.

Did they try all the shops in the area for paper?

I have done a quick google (less than two mins) and found Staples in Portimao, Aqua, a small stationers, Continente and eight small computer specialists all of which probably sell computer paper all within 30 mins of Apt 5a.

Oh and while you are getting it you might need an ice lolly as its so warm today. So pop into Iceland, they have a special offer on.

Portugal is not a backward country and wasn't in 2007 either.

And I think any hotel, resort or holiday location without at least one flip chart for meetings or even the conference trade would be a very poor place. But maybe they borrowed the flip chart from the PJ. You never know.

Oh, in the name....five years on and they STILL haven't grasped the WoC business.


Ward of Court was applied for just 12 days after Maddie was reported missing, the same day as the fund was launched. And at the time when their daughter needed her parents the most in her life, that they decided to apply to give up legal custody of her......What delightful and loving parents.....Not!!

I have asked many parents over the last year would they ever 'think' of applying for WOC status if their child disappeared...the look of horror I get is exactly what I would expect. Only the mccanns saw fit to give her up

They must do this on purpose - refuse to grasp reality.

By Madeleine having WoC status, it means she has the protection of the British State and Crown, wherever in the world she is found, and whoever she is with.

This means she will be brought back to the UK without any arguments, and reunited with her family.

You're right, Greenink, it must be sheer hatred of the McCanns - and Madeleine - that is their reason for endlessly repeating absolute drivel. And nasty drivel, at that.

They are doing this on purpose just to wind each other up, and then they can have a ten page Hate Fest about it. The last thing they need to do is to understand the legalities of what The McCanns did, and their need to protect their daughter when she is found.

Quite; it is becoming increasingly clear that they actively enjoy inventing garbage and lies. If they were genuinely as interested as they like to pretend, then they would have taken the trouble, long before now, to actually check up on one or two things before they launched yet another hatefest about yet another fabricated lie.

Still, what else can you expect of fans of HeidiHo's homages to a convicted criminal?

I don't think they care who they hate, Bonny, as long as there is someone, preferably a woman and a mother. And Kate McCann is perfect material. She is everything they aren't. After that they feel free to make up whatever they like. But basically it is an overpowering need to hate someone. God knows how awful their lives must be.

They must live strange lives, that don't include things like disposable gloves or photographic printing paper, Sabot.

I do wonder if some of them even know what 'airplanes' are. Remember, at the time of the Leh sighting, they all wrote it off due to India being a long way away, because they couldn't grasp that it is possible to get from Europe to provincial towns in India in less than a day?

And they couldn't grasp that it was perfectly simple to send a photo of the child mistaken for Madeleine to the UK in seconds?

They all acted as if Leh was some outpost of Empire, and communication was only possible by tea clipper.

Strange, blinkered people.

Oh, I think they understand most of these things, Bonny, but it suits them to pretend that they don't, and then they can put the worst interpretations on anything. I mean, even they must be able to see how ridiculous some of their statements are. They've all got Email accounts so they must know how to send a photograph. But it's much more fun to put the boot in.

Dr Redsquare has surfaced, with some forkerfrenzy about the McCanns leaving Portugal in 2007.

Quote from the learned 'doctor'-


Once again, "Saturday 8 September...Gerry gave them a call" and "On the advice of the lawyers, we decided to get out as soon as possible. We would go the next day rather than leaving it until Monday."

The following information comes courtesy of 'Yahoo! Answers:'

Q: Do solicitors open on Saturday?

'Yahoo! Answers' ?



How absolutely, totally pathetic and risible. This is what it's come to, is it? Case-Cracking courtesy of Yahoo! Answers?

I assume pretendy-doctor relies upon Legal Aid for these things - he might have a bit of trouble getting a Legal Aid lawyer in his office at the weekend.

Not once has it occurred to pretendy in the course of this latest diatribe that it is not entirely unknown for people to give other people contact phone numbers, in case they should be needed.

What a strange, narrow world the forkers and haters live in!

Here's another gem:

dewi lennard ‏@kikoratton
Why did the #McCann s tell relatives "the shutters had been jemmied"? It turned out to be false. In any case, it's impossible to force .....

Now, why is Kiki telling fibs? She knows perfectly well it's child's play to raise those shutters from the outside.

Look, even CSI: Petey can do it!

Mari Welzel ‏@umweltbuerger
MT @5haronl VIDEO Kate #McCann interviewed by Jon Corner- HiDeHo http://bit.ly/M390AV Clouseau:Gerry wearing a rubber glove stop vid at 4.54

Oh well, that's it then.

Jeezuz, what are these people on?[u] It must be good whatever it is.