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Re: Jimmy Savile accused in ITV documentary
More or less what we've all be saying, LL. But whatever happens we will be seeing a lot less groping. In fact, it could do some serious damage to the marriage market.
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@LouiseMensch YOU madam, are a fekcing disgrace! THATCHER needs severe questioning over Jimmy Savile & other PAEDOPHILES
Bit late, isn't it? The only answer anyone's likely to get from Mrs T. these days is Flubadub. Where's my cabbage gone?
Frankly, any sane person (which lets Zoe Pillock out) reading that correspondence is LESS likely to think Sir Jimmie did anything much more than inappropriate touching of groupies. He sounds almost child-like himself.
@LouiseMensch YOU madam, are a fekcing disgrace! THATCHER needs severe questioning over Jimmy Savile & other PAEDOPHILES
Bit late, isn't it? The only answer anyone's likely to get from Mrs T. these days is Flubadub. Where's my cabbage gone?
Frankly, any sane person (which lets Zoe Pillock out) reading that correspondence is LESS likely to think Sir Jimmie did anything much more than inappropriate touching of groupies. He sounds almost child-like himself.
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The letter in which Sir J. declares his undying love of the PM-ess:
Correspondence: A handwritten letter from Jimmy Savile in which he declared his 'love' for Margaret Thatcher after being invited to lunch with her was released by the National Archives under the 30-year rule
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2253929/Jimmy-Saviles-private-letters-Margaret-Thatcher-Files-edited-2-months-ago.html#ixzz2GMunhzS0
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Incidentally, how does expressing one's adoration of the less-than-youthful PM-ess square with all the alleged groupy-groping?
Correspondence: A handwritten letter from Jimmy Savile in which he declared his 'love' for Margaret Thatcher after being invited to lunch with her was released by the National Archives under the 30-year rule
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Incidentally, how does expressing one's adoration of the less-than-youthful PM-ess square with all the alleged groupy-groping?
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This is well worth a read, too:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-565179/Jim-fixer-Is-Jimmy-Savile-just-fantasist---truth-stranger-fiction.html#ixzz2GKb6cnar
Yes, I can very easily see him as a bit of a bullsh*tter who liked to put J. Savile at the centre of every drama. Whether he actually was or not.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-565179/Jim-fixer-Is-Jimmy-Savile-just-fantasist---truth-stranger-fiction.html#ixzz2GKb6cnar
Yes, I can very easily see him as a bit of a bullsh*tter who liked to put J. Savile at the centre of every drama. Whether he actually was or not.
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http://news.sky.com/story/1032569/two-men-held-in-jimmy-savile-abuse-probe
Two Men Held In Jimmy Savile Abuse Probe
Police investigating the Jimmy Savile abuse scandal arrest two men, aged 53 and 59, on suspicion of sexual offences.
Two men have been arrested by detectives investigating the Jimmy Savile abuse scandal.
A 53-year-old was held in Hampshire at around 8am and a 59-year-old in west London at around midday, both on suspicion of sexual offences.
The allegations are not directly linked to Savile, the Metropolitan Police said.
Scotland Yard is leading a national investigation into allegations against disgraced television presenter Savile and a number of other high-profile figures.
They have separated the inquiry into three strands: claims against Savile, those involving Savile and others, and those involving others. The latest arrests fall under the "others" strand.
So far, officers have questioned 10 people including former pop star Gary Glitter, comedian Freddie Starr and PR guru Max Clifford.
Last month police said a total of 31 allegations of rape had been made against former Top Of The Pops presenter Savile, who died in October 2011.
Some 589 people have come forward with information relating to the scandal, with a total of 450 complaints against the BBC presenter and DJ, mainly alleging sexual abuse.
Detectives have recorded 199 crimes in 17 force areas in which Savile is a suspect.
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Call me picky, but don't you have to be alive to be a suspect?
Two Men Held In Jimmy Savile Abuse Probe
Police investigating the Jimmy Savile abuse scandal arrest two men, aged 53 and 59, on suspicion of sexual offences.
Two men have been arrested by detectives investigating the Jimmy Savile abuse scandal.
A 53-year-old was held in Hampshire at around 8am and a 59-year-old in west London at around midday, both on suspicion of sexual offences.
The allegations are not directly linked to Savile, the Metropolitan Police said.
Scotland Yard is leading a national investigation into allegations against disgraced television presenter Savile and a number of other high-profile figures.
They have separated the inquiry into three strands: claims against Savile, those involving Savile and others, and those involving others. The latest arrests fall under the "others" strand.
So far, officers have questioned 10 people including former pop star Gary Glitter, comedian Freddie Starr and PR guru Max Clifford.
Last month police said a total of 31 allegations of rape had been made against former Top Of The Pops presenter Savile, who died in October 2011.
Some 589 people have come forward with information relating to the scandal, with a total of 450 complaints against the BBC presenter and DJ, mainly alleging sexual abuse.
Detectives have recorded 199 crimes in 17 force areas in which Savile is a suspect.
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Call me picky, but don't you have to be alive to be a suspect?
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bb1, you´re right.
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Re: Jimmy Savile accused in ITV documentary
When was Jimmy Savile disgraced? Have I missed something?
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It's bad writing, Pedro, and all too common these days.
These two men are, IMO, too young to have had anything to do with Savile. The only good thing is that the police - and Mark William Thomas - have stopped giving out names of people they are speaking to.
It was feeding the hysterical mob, who couldn't grasp that being arrested and interviewed did NOT mean someone was guilty.
Guilt is for a court to decide.
These two men are, IMO, too young to have had anything to do with Savile. The only good thing is that the police - and Mark William Thomas - have stopped giving out names of people they are speaking to.
It was feeding the hysterical mob, who couldn't grasp that being arrested and interviewed did NOT mean someone was guilty.
Guilt is for a court to decide.
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When was Jimmy Savile disgraced? Have I missed something?
Well, MWT said he was, so it must be true.
It's interesting that the steam seems to have gone out of MWT's campaign against - I am none too sure what. Are the police going to reveal what actual evidence they found against Savile, or is it just going to sink into a grey area, with no-one knowing the actual truth?
I noticed, on Anna Raccoon's blog a few weeks ago, that information debunking the Duncroft allegations had been passed to the police. That is interesting.
Go back to the beginning of all this. Rantzen claimed that one of the reasons she believed the Duncroft lot was that they all said the same thing....
Now, anyone with a working brain cell knows that witnesses SHOULDN'T all be singing from the same songsheet.
And it turned out that they had been working on their script on assorted social sites, screenshots of were passed to the police.
Heaven knows how this is all going to end.
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I don't suppose that anyone is going to admit that a Duncroft Old Girl of some note blew the whistle on false allegations.
The Police and The Media are still churning out the politically correct version with not a hint of malfeasance.
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At least the police have calmed down, and have stopped giving those loopy press conferences about how they were going to be arresting half the male population of the UK.
Three months on and what has happened? Not a lot, really. They may have netted one or two contemporary sex pests, which no-one will object to, but as for all those threats about household names - it just hasn't happened.
I will be surprised if any of this reaches court. Apart from Glitter, who should be arrested for breathing, disgusting creature.
What does annoy me is that attempts to get to the bottom of persistent stories about abuse in children's homes, especially in North Wales, appear to have hit a brick wall after Lord McAlpine was so horribly targeted.
It's all being swept back under the carpet, as is Rochdale.
Three months on and what has happened? Not a lot, really. They may have netted one or two contemporary sex pests, which no-one will object to, but as for all those threats about household names - it just hasn't happened.
I will be surprised if any of this reaches court. Apart from Glitter, who should be arrested for breathing, disgusting creature.
What does annoy me is that attempts to get to the bottom of persistent stories about abuse in children's homes, especially in North Wales, appear to have hit a brick wall after Lord McAlpine was so horribly targeted.
It's all being swept back under the carpet, as is Rochdale.
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And I see the latest arrestee has been named by a blogger who clearly has total contempt for legal process.
Have they learned nothing?
ETA, and the hounders are playing stupid games, too. Still, what else can you expect from people who support a secret NI shill?
Have they learned nothing?
ETA, and the hounders are playing stupid games, too. Still, what else can you expect from people who support a secret NI shill?
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NOW it has been released:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2256223/BREAKING-NEWS-Comedian-Jim-Davidson-arrested-suspicion-sexual-offences-Jimmy-Savile-detectives.html
Crimes against comedy would be more to the point.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2256223/BREAKING-NEWS-Comedian-Jim-Davidson-arrested-suspicion-sexual-offences-Jimmy-Savile-detectives.html
Crimes against comedy would be more to the point.
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Jim Davidson 'Arrested By Jimmy Savile Police'The comedian is apparently one of two men held on suspicion of sexual offences - the allegations are not linked to Savile.
8:39pm UK,
Wednesday 02 January 2013
Jim Davidson pictured in 2009
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Comedian Jim Davidson has reportedly been arrested by police investigating the Jimmy Savile abuse allegations.
It is understood he is one of two men arrested today on suspicion of sexual offences as part of Operation Yewtree.
Both individuals fall under the strand of the investigation termed 'others' and the Metropolitan Police said the allegations are not linked to Savile.
Officers said a 53-year-old was held in Hampshire at around 8am and a 59-year-old in west London at around midday.
Sky News attempted to contact Davidson's agent but we were forwarded to his solicitors. We have not yet received a reply.
Scotland Yard is leading a national investigation into allegations against disgraced television presenter Savile and a number of other high-profile figures.
They have separated the inquiry into three strands: claims against Savile, those involving Savile and others, and those involving others.
So far, officers have questioned 10 people including former pop star Gary Glitter, comedian Freddie Starr and PR guru Max Clifford.
Last month, police said a total of 31 allegations of rape had been made against former Top Of The Pops presenter Savile.
Some 589 people have come forward with information relating to the scandal, with a total of 450 complaints against the BBC presenter and DJ, mainly alleging sexual abuse.
Detectives have recorded 199 crimes in 17 force areas in which Savile is a suspect.
More follows...
http://news.sky.com/story/1032697/jim-davidson-arrested-by-jimmy-savile-police
8:39pm UK,
Wednesday 02 January 2013
Jim Davidson pictured in 2009
Comedian Jim Davidson has reportedly been arrested by police investigating the Jimmy Savile abuse allegations.
It is understood he is one of two men arrested today on suspicion of sexual offences as part of Operation Yewtree.
Both individuals fall under the strand of the investigation termed 'others' and the Metropolitan Police said the allegations are not linked to Savile.
Officers said a 53-year-old was held in Hampshire at around 8am and a 59-year-old in west London at around midday.
Sky News attempted to contact Davidson's agent but we were forwarded to his solicitors. We have not yet received a reply.
Scotland Yard is leading a national investigation into allegations against disgraced television presenter Savile and a number of other high-profile figures.
They have separated the inquiry into three strands: claims against Savile, those involving Savile and others, and those involving others.
So far, officers have questioned 10 people including former pop star Gary Glitter, comedian Freddie Starr and PR guru Max Clifford.
Last month, police said a total of 31 allegations of rape had been made against former Top Of The Pops presenter Savile.
Some 589 people have come forward with information relating to the scandal, with a total of 450 complaints against the BBC presenter and DJ, mainly alleging sexual abuse.
Detectives have recorded 199 crimes in 17 force areas in which Savile is a suspect.
More follows...
http://news.sky.com/story/1032697/jim-davidson-arrested-by-jimmy-savile-police
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From what I can make out, Maggs, this one seems to another Historic Bum-touching allegation, nothing noncy.
The way this is going, it is going to be a badge of honour to get arrested by the 'Savile cops'.
There certainly doesn't seem to be much light being shed on the more serious allegations involving children.
The way this is going, it is going to be a badge of honour to get arrested by the 'Savile cops'.
There certainly doesn't seem to be much light being shed on the more serious allegations involving children.
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Oh, good God!
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-01-02/jim-davidson-vigorously-denies-allegations-against-him/
Comedian Jim Davidson 'vigorously denies' allegations
- last updated Wed 2 Jan 2013
UK Operation Yewtree
The comedian Jim Davidson has released a statement saying he "vigorously denies" allegations made against him following his arrest by police investigating the Jimmy Savile scandal.
His solicitor Henri Brandman said the allegations date back "approximately 25 years" when both of the female complainants were in their mid-twenties.
Mr Davidson, 59, is one of two men arrested on suspicion of sexual offences as part of Operation Yewtree.
Both suspects were released on bail and are due to return to their respective police stations in March, a Metropolitan Police statement said.
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And it's taken them TWENTY FIVE YEARS to complain? That's an insult to abused children, and genuine victims of rape and other heinous crimes.
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-01-02/jim-davidson-vigorously-denies-allegations-against-him/
Comedian Jim Davidson 'vigorously denies' allegations
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UK Operation Yewtree
The comedian Jim Davidson has released a statement saying he "vigorously denies" allegations made against him following his arrest by police investigating the Jimmy Savile scandal.
His solicitor Henri Brandman said the allegations date back "approximately 25 years" when both of the female complainants were in their mid-twenties.
Mr Davidson, 59, is one of two men arrested on suspicion of sexual offences as part of Operation Yewtree.
Both suspects were released on bail and are due to return to their respective police stations in March, a Metropolitan Police statement said.
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And it's taken them TWENTY FIVE YEARS to complain? That's an insult to abused children, and genuine victims of rape and other heinous crimes.
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I'm sorry, but it's just not possible for me to take any of this seriously anymore. A whole bunch of them will be queueing up to join before much longer.
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Quite; it will become an honour to be such a red-blooded heterosexual....
To add to the farce, he was apparently arrested at Heathrow, on his way to appear in Celebrity Big Brother.
That'll probably go ahead; it will do wonders for the ratings.
Oh, maybe Bennett could serve a private prosecution on him while he's in CBB?
To add to the farce, he was apparently arrested at Heathrow, on his way to appear in Celebrity Big Brother.
That'll probably go ahead; it will do wonders for the ratings.
Oh, maybe Bennett could serve a private prosecution on him while he's in CBB?
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Roll up, roll up. Join The Jack the Lad Club. Hand yourself in to The Police before you get arrested at 6 o'clock in the morning. Or worse still, get ignored all together.
"No, no, Officer, not that one. Mine were better looking than that."
Oooh. I've got a better one. "Excuse me, Officer. I want to make a complaint about all those women who sexually harassed me in 1970 when I was a green pop star. Threw themselves at me, they did." Now that I would believe.
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http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/oh-to-be-in-englandi-dont-think-so.html
This one is particularly ridiculous, involving two middle-aged making allegations dating back TWENTY FIVE YEARS, when they were in their mid-twenties.
I don't think it would even be looked at in the states, as it has taken them a quarter of a century to complain?
This one is particularly ridiculous, involving two middle-aged making allegations dating back TWENTY FIVE YEARS, when they were in their mid-twenties.
I don't think it would even be looked at in the states, as it has taken them a quarter of a century to complain?
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hunt-for-jimmy-saviles-missing-millions-1521182
The lawyer, who is representing 55 Savile victims in civil claims, wants the estate to claw back any money that can be traced for his victims.
He says pay Savile earned while at institutions including the BBC, during which time he was allegedly abusing victims, should be classified as “proceeds of crime”.
He is demanding that the cash be handed back to his estate to be used as compensation.
So, whatever happened to, We don't want money, we just want to be listened to and believed?
Liz Dux, of London-based Russell, Jones and Walker solicitors, which is representing another 45 victims of Savile in civil law suits, welcomed any new probe.
She told The Sunday Mirror: “The victims of Savile would welcome any new investigation into his financial accounts. It may be that £4.3million will not satisfy all the claims against his estate and any more funds would be an added bonus.”
She added: “Certainly there is some personal satisfaction for them in the knowledge that in some form or another he will have to pay.”
Ms Dux added that any new money for the Savile estate would not deflect claims against the BBC, NHS and charites.
No, Savile will NOT 'have to pay' - it seems to have escaped their notice, but he is DEAD.
He is going to stay DEAD. There are no pockets in a shroud.
The people who are going to 'have to pay' are the licence-payers, taxpayers, charities, and the disabled - that is who is going to 'have to pay'.
I hope MWT and the rest of the witch-hunters are proud of themselves; pity they hadn't shown so much concern about Rochdale, etc., but I guess there's no mega-bucks to be had from PROVEN child abusers who happen to be Asian taxi-drivers.
The lawyer, who is representing 55 Savile victims in civil claims, wants the estate to claw back any money that can be traced for his victims.
He says pay Savile earned while at institutions including the BBC, during which time he was allegedly abusing victims, should be classified as “proceeds of crime”.
He is demanding that the cash be handed back to his estate to be used as compensation.
So, whatever happened to, We don't want money, we just want to be listened to and believed?
Liz Dux, of London-based Russell, Jones and Walker solicitors, which is representing another 45 victims of Savile in civil law suits, welcomed any new probe.
She told The Sunday Mirror: “The victims of Savile would welcome any new investigation into his financial accounts. It may be that £4.3million will not satisfy all the claims against his estate and any more funds would be an added bonus.”
She added: “Certainly there is some personal satisfaction for them in the knowledge that in some form or another he will have to pay.”
Ms Dux added that any new money for the Savile estate would not deflect claims against the BBC, NHS and charites.
No, Savile will NOT 'have to pay' - it seems to have escaped their notice, but he is DEAD.
He is going to stay DEAD. There are no pockets in a shroud.
The people who are going to 'have to pay' are the licence-payers, taxpayers, charities, and the disabled - that is who is going to 'have to pay'.
I hope MWT and the rest of the witch-hunters are proud of themselves; pity they hadn't shown so much concern about Rochdale, etc., but I guess there's no mega-bucks to be had from PROVEN child abusers who happen to be Asian taxi-drivers.
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Are they going to want the house and the gifts Jimmy Savile paid for to his Aunt? Or was it his Granny? She'll be dead, I expect, so who got her ill gotten gains?
And does she think The Charities aren't going to put up a fight?
She is going to have to prove him Guilty before anyone gets anything. And I can't see that happening.
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Didn't we say this was about money, right at the very start? No wonder they waited till he was dead. That they can even think about taking money away from charities disgusts me - what good do they think that will do? It may make their ambulance-chasers very happy, but it is not going to do one damned thing to help children who are being abused right this minute.
It is, IMO, going to do appalling damage to genuine victims.
If this lot want money, they are going to have to go to court, where their stories will be shredded, as they already have been on the internet.
People lying about being abuse victims to take money away from charities - how do they think that's going to be seen by the public? Reading round the papers, it's pretty clear the public are sick to death of the whole thing already.
It's being openly called a witch-hunt in the press now. Maybe it's time someone investigated Mark Williams Thomas - those quickest to accuse others often have a lot to hide themselves.
It is, IMO, going to do appalling damage to genuine victims.
If this lot want money, they are going to have to go to court, where their stories will be shredded, as they already have been on the internet.
People lying about being abuse victims to take money away from charities - how do they think that's going to be seen by the public? Reading round the papers, it's pretty clear the public are sick to death of the whole thing already.
It's being openly called a witch-hunt in the press now. Maybe it's time someone investigated Mark Williams Thomas - those quickest to accuse others often have a lot to hide themselves.
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