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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:24 pm

I was actually UN-incensed, as it seemed that steps were being taken in Portugal to get to the truth of the matter - however slowly.

I really did not expect that ANYONE would try a stunt like this, worthy of some third world police state.
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Post  Maggs Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:02 pm

Photography of beaten up Leonor Cipriano can be a Forgery

13 May 2008
Leonor Cipriano’s Images are going to be evaluated trough technical computer-assisted image analysis

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The date of the files that are in the process which accuses five elements of the Judiciary Police is of May of 2005, when the alleged aggression took place in October of 2004

Three accused inspectors of the Judiciary Police of torture when they were questioning Leonor Cipriano - condemned by the murder of the daughter - are going to ask an expert evaluation to the photographies that serve as element of proof for the accusation.
The images that show Leonor with the black eyes [panda eyes*] are in a CD and the files have the date of the 9th of May of 2005 - when the alleged aggression would have taken place a year before, in 15th of October of 2004.

According to the accusation, after the interrogation, Leonor was taken by the inspectors to the health centre of Odemira. The police officers say that she threw herself down the staircases, in an attempt to commit suicide.

24horas knows that as soon Leonor Cipriano reached the penitentiary, the director ordered that photos were taken to Cipriano - those were passed to floppy disks and, subsequently, for a CD handed to the Public Ministry.

“I don’t understand how this date appears in the files. I want this to be thoroughly explained. Because the images can have been forged”, says to 24horas the lawyer of three inspectors, Pragal Colaço. “I am going to ask an expert evaluation trough technical computer-assisted image analysis. Even because, the original chip of the photographies isn’t available”.

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Accused Inspectors

The inspectors Leonel Marques, Paulo Pereira Cristóvão and Paulo Marques Bom are accused of, on the 14th of October, to have tortured Leonor during an interrogation in the Judiciary Police headquarters of Portimão.
The three were in the Central Direction of Combat Against Banditism, in Lisbon, and had been called to the Algarve to help in the investigation of the disappearance of the eight year old girl Joana - the mysteriously lost girl of the village of Figueira (Portimão).

The coordinator Gonçalo Amaral - who also investigated the case Maddie - is accused in this process of a crime of false testimony and falsification of a document. And the inspector António Cardoso, of a crime of falsification.

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Five accused inspectors of the Judiciary Police were pronounced for judgement in last February. António Pragal Colaço, accused the judge, Ana Lúcia Cruz, of having taken the decision of bringing the Judiciary Officers to judgement before the debate. The lawyer considers this process to be damaged by "political" circumstances.

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João Grade, Leonor Cipriano’s Lawyer, believes that the decision is going to influence the revision of the process of judgement of Leonor. In April, the lawyer was detained by the GNR in the possession of synthetic drugs; he was arrested carrying 45 doses of amphetamines and a quarter of a tablet of ecstasy while visiting the prison. The lawyer alleged that the suitcase was of a recluse to whom he was doing a favour and that he didn’t know the contents.

rofl rofl
And he is now Gonc's liar lawyer. Odd that, when Gonc was in the drug squad. Nice plant, eh!
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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:09 pm

24horas knows .....and I think that's all that needs to be said about that, isn't it?

I notice Team Gonc concocted a vast conspiracy theory, involving a cast of thousands, rather than admit that Leonor Cipriano was battered senseless while in Gonc's tender care. I am afraid I find the Team Gonc rubbish about photoshopped injuries every bit as ridiculous as forker rubbish about photoshopped Last Photos.

Now, that business of Grade and the drugs was very odd, wasn't it? Especially as the charges were mysteriously dropped, and he became Gonc's bessie friend and mentor.

Mayhap Cristovao worked his magic?
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Post  Sabot Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:29 am


What was that about The Judge and Political Circumstances? Didn't they have anything on her? The rest of The Judges are going to have to watch it. Everyone is watching them now, and taking names.
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:02 am

This verdict is due sometime today, so could whoever sees it first, post it ASAP? Hopefully, Pedro will be watching the TV news....
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Post  crazytony Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:43 pm

Court has deferred until April
http://www.regiao-sul.pt/noticia.php?refnoticia=134868

Faro Court postpones sentence of Leonor Cipriano to April 2The Faro Court postponed today for day 2 April reading of sentence of Leonor Cipriano, arrested for the murder of his daughter Jane, in the process in which it is charged with providing false statements.The mother of the missing child in the village of Figueira, in Portimao, the September 12, 2004, presented different versions of the alleged assault that fell victim to the premises of the judicial police, that same year.According to a judicial source, the Court held that it was necessary to join the documentary elements of this process, in which Leonor Cipriano accused several of the agents were assaulted during the interrogation.Leonor Cipriano-who, like his brother, 16 years ' imprisonment for murder and concealment of corpse-, was waived to attend today at Faro Court to hear the reading of the judgment.

The contradictory statements were made during the trial of the inspectors who investigated the "Jane", in 2009, that resulted in the conviction of two of the five defendants in the process.In its judgment, the collective of judges considered "blatant and relevant contradictions in which incurred" Leonor Cipriano declarations produced in the sessions of the trial, although he had had the "opportunity to reveal the truth".

The Court gave as proved the assaults, although without having ascertained the identity of the attackers.Gonçalo Amaral, former coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department of the PJ de Portimão, was acquitted of the crime of omission of report and sentenced to a year and a half for the crime of false allegations, suspended for the same period.Antonio Nunes Cardoso Inspector was sentenced to two years and three months for document forgery, suspended for two years.The former PJ Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, Leonel Morgado Marques and Paulo Marques Bom, who were accused of having tortured Leonor Cipriano in the interrogations carried out in PJ 'S, were acquitted.

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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:52 pm

Is it me, or does that sound as if the court - or its agents - is trying to find out EXACTLY who was involved? Bearing in mind that if anything in a Portuguese paper says 'judicial source', it's generally one of Gonc's cronies trying to spin some new disaster....

According to a judicial source, the Court held that it was necessary to join the documentary elements of this process

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Post  crazytony Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:56 pm

bb1 wrote:Is it me, or does that sound as if the court - or its agents - is trying to find out EXACTLY who was involved? Bearing in mind that if anything in a Portuguese paper says 'judicial source', it's generally one of Gonc's cronies trying to spin some new disaster....

According to a judicial source, the Court held that it was necessary to join the documentary elements of this process

I read and reached the same conclusion as you, Bonny.

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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:07 pm

It seems to me that, as it has been repeatedly proven in court that she was badly battered in police custody, then the SENSIBLE thing is to find out exactly who did the battering.

Not blame the torture victim for not recognising her torturers as they'd wrapped bags round her head.

What was it FSoares said?

He once implied he had a very good knowledge about Joana's case and also about the details of the alleged 'torture' commited by the officers who were brought from Lisbon, under Amaral's orders.

Well, the torture isn't alleged any more, so maybe it's about time the fat defective told the court exactly who the officers were.
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Post  lily Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:09 pm

I bet he would squeal if he was blamed in court for the whole thing?
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Post  Sabot Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:09 pm

I don't think I can cope with much more of this. Let's just hope that The Court are looking into the Evidence that The PJ have undoubtedly got.
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:15 pm

Well, from the reports about the PJ wanting to kick Gonc and Cristovao out of the Old Boys' Club and stop their police pensions, I'd say the PJ knows what happened, but could not prove it?

I agree with Lily, Gonc would drop the whole lot of them in it to save his own hide, IMO. Oh, and the dynamic of that group of Stooges may have changed, with the fall of Cristovao?

Must be bad news for Gonc, Morais hasn't told her blogshrooms yet. No doubt the others will be getting their instructions in private, on her forum.
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Post  lily Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:18 pm

Must be bad news for Gonc, Morais hasn't told her blogshrooms yet. No doubt the others will be getting their instructions in private, on her forum.

Now that could explain a lot of things?
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Post  Sabot Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:22 pm

Yer well, Gonc probably was directly involved in the Torture, which the others will know, so he isn't going to say anything, is he.
Sorry, I never did believe that he stood by and did nothing. He was in there helping to beat her up.
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:36 pm

Let's just hope that The Court are looking into the Evidence that The PJ have undoubtedly got.

And that is a very good point, Sabot. There were only about five cowardly thugs involved in this, it shouldn't be that hard to get to the truth?

The Gonc Gang have done more than enough damage to the PJ, this may be a golden opportunity for the PJ to sort this out once and for all?
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:39 pm

A fuller report, with one or two rather interesting phrases in it:

http://www.noticiasaominuto.com/pais/54282/senten%C3%A7a-de-leonor-cipriano-adiada-para-abril#.UUI0aBwWt5l

Faro Leonor Cipriano Sentence postponed to April
The Court of Faro postponed, this Thursday, to April 2nd reading of sentence Leonor Cipriano, arrested for the murder of her daughter Joana, in the case which is charged with making false statements.

The child's mother, who disappeared in the village of Figueira, Portimão, the September 12, 2004, presented different versions of the alleged assault he suffered at the premises of the Judicial Police in Faro that year.

According to judicial sources, the court held that it was necessary to join this process documentary evidence of earlier proceedings in which Leonor Cipriano accused several agents to have beaten during interrogation.

Leonor Cipriano - who, like his brother, meets 16 years in prison for murder and concealment of a corpse - was not required to appear today before the Court of Faro to hear the reading of the judgment.

The contradictory statements were made during the trial of the inspectors who investigated the "Joana case" in 2009, which resulted in the conviction of two of the five defendants in the case.

In its judgment, the panel of judges deemed "flagrant contradictions and relevant it incurred" Leonor Cipriano statements that produced the sessions of the trial, although he had the "opportunity to reveal the truth."


The court gave as proven aggression, although without having ascertained the identity of the attackers.

Gonçalo Amaral, former coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department of the PJ of Portimão, was acquitted of the crime of failure to report abuse and sentenced to a year and a half for the crime of making false allegations, were suspended for the same period.

The inspector António Nunes Cardoso was sentenced to two years and three months for forgery of document, sentence suspended for two years.

The former agents of PJ Paulo Pereira Cristovao Morgado Leonel Marques and Paulo Marques Bom, who were accused of having tortured Leonor Cipriano in interrogations conducted in Faro PJ, were acquitted.


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Nice reminder of who was accused of being involved, isn't it? If I was Gonc, I would be a very worried man tonight.
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:41 pm

....And still no Fake News Spinny from Morais. How will her shrooms know what to think, without her to tell them what the official Team Gonc line is?
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:12 pm

How odd. Ms Morais is active on the internet today - tweeting about Portuguese politics.

Joana Morais @ xklamation
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:09 pm

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@alfibab @wicatty ~ is there any news on Leonor Cipriano yet? Hoping for the best poor woman. #mccann


Worry not! As soon as there is news, either way, it will be posted here.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:17 pm

The verdict is in, and it is a shocker. If anyone wanted proof that parts of Portugal are still police states, here it is:

http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/503/sociedade/joana-homicidio-leonor-cipriano-tvi24/1435335-4071.html

The Court of Faro on Tuesday condemned Leonor Cipriano to seven months in prison for making false statements to Justice, found TVI. The defendant already fulfills a sentence of 16 years in prison for the murder of her daughter Joana. reading the judgment was scheduled for March 14, but the court postponed the date by joining the need for documentary evidence of this process earlier, in which Leonor Cipriano accused several agents to have beaten during interrogation. A child's mother, who disappeared in the village of Figueira, Portimão, the September 12, 2004, presented different versions of the alleged assault he suffered at the premises of the Judicial Police in Faro that same year. contradictory statements were made ​​during the trial that investigated the inspectors 'Joana case' in 2009, which resulted in the conviction of two of the five defendants in the case. judgment in the collective judges considered "egregious and relevant the contradictions it incurred »Leonor Cipriano statements that produced the sessions of the trial, although it had the" opportunity to reveal the truth. " The court gave as proven aggression, although without having ascertained the identity of the attackers. Gonçalo Amaral , former coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department of the PJ of Portimão, was acquitted of the crime of failure to report abuse and sentenced to a year and a half for the crime of making false allegations, were suspended for the same period. António Nunes Cardoso The inspector was sentenced to two years and three months for forgery of document, sentence suspended for two years. Former agents PJ Paulo Pereira Cristovao Morgado Leonel Marques and Paulo Marques Bom, who were accused of having tortured Leonor Cipriano in interrogations conducted in PJ Faro, were acquitted. Leonor Cipriano meets as her brother, João Cipriano, 16 years in prison for murder and concealment of a corpse.

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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:19 pm

The court gave as proven aggression, although without having ascertained the identity of the attackers.

One might have expected, in a supposed democracy, that they would try to find out just which cowardly scum did what.

Not in Portugal, apparently.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:25 pm

That now makes no less than FOUR Portuguese courts which have ruled she was tortured in police custody.

In what totalitarian hellhole can a torture victim be found guilty of being unable to accurately identify her torturers, when it seems that NO effort has been made to find out just who they were?

There are only a handful of names to choose from, so it can't be that hard.

Makes one wonder why Portugal bothers pretending it's a democracy, and why they bother with all that carnation nonsense.

It appears it is still a Fascist state under all the flowery talk.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:31 pm

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/ultima-hora/leonor-cipriano-apanha-mais-sete-meses-de-prisao

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Leonor Cipriano picks up seven more months in prison
Misrepresentation aggravate imprisonment for the death of her daughter Joana.

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Leonor Cipriano at the entrance of the Court of Faro


Leonor Cipriano, who is serving a sentence of 16 years and 8 months in prison for the murder of her daughter Joana, was sentenced today to seven months in prison for making false statements effective.
A reading of the judgment in the Court of Faro occurred.
The child's mother, who disappeared in the village of Figueira, Portimão, the September 12, 2004, presented different versions of the alleged assault he suffered at the premises of the Judicial Police Faro.
The contradictory statements were made during the trial of the inspectors who investigated the media 'Joana case' in 2009, which resulted in the conviction of two of the five defendants in the case.
The judges concluded that the defendant "lied" and entered "several contradictions" about what really happened on the premises of PJ.

Due to the severity of the claims, the court ruled capital punishment effective prison Leonor Cipriano.
At trial in 2009, the court gave as proven aggression, although without having ascertained the identity of the attackers.
Gonçalo Amaral, former coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department of the PJ of Portimão, was acquitted of the crime of failure to report abuse and sentenced to a year and a half for the crime of making false allegations, were suspended for the same period.
Inspector Antonio Nunes Cardoso was sentenced to two years and three months for forgery of document, sentence suspended for two years.
The former agents of PJ Paulo Pereira Cristovao Morgado Leonel Marques and Paulo Marques Bom, who were accused of having tortured Leonor Cipriano in interrogations conducted in Faro PJ, were acquitted.


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Just wait till Amnesty, the ECHR, and the UNHRC hear about this!

I expect an appeal will be entered ASAP.
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Post  Sabot Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:31 pm

Stunned.

Does this mean that even if you prove you have been beaten, don't accuse anyone if you can't categorically prove who done it, even if you have got a bag over your head?
Well, that's easy. Stick a bag over someone's head and then beat them up. You will definitely get away with it.
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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:39 pm

I know, Sabot, it's Police State Heaven. And if they try to identify you, but can't get it 100% right, why, then, they lock you in jail for even longer.

Portugal should hang its head in shame - this is like something from Hitler's Germany, not a country that is supposed to be a 21st century European democracy.

I am genuinely sickened with Portugal. This cannot be put down to a few bad apples, this is deliberately sweeping a scandal under the carpet and trying to silence people.

WHY DID THE COURT NOT BOTHER TO FIND OUT JUST WHO DID TORTURE THE WOMAN?

You know, if the court HAD investigated that, I would have thought their justice system was working fairly. But this? It stinks of trumped-up charges to keep her in jail as long as possible.

Which tells me some barsteward in authority is as scared of the truth about Joana Cipriano coming out as they are of the truth about Madeleine McCann, or any of the other missing children in Portugal, coming out.

Maybe they should try sticking a few bags on the heads of the dirty, cowardly cops, making them kneel on a few ashtrays? Think that will take us nearer the truth?

I don't know, but I know a cover-up and corruption when I see it.
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