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Re: More sabre-rattling from the Dear Leader
There seems to be quite a lot of piss-taking on line. With that haircut and his pudgy shape he is quite a comic figure anyway!!!! LLbb1 wrote:http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/04/citing-exhaustion-kim-jong-un-to-stop-threatening-world-on-weekends.html
That's hilarious, LL!
Is this a cunning Yankee plot - to laugh the Dear Leader into global humiliation?
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Another one:
Shouldn't he have a twitter account so he can complain about people laffin at him?
Shouldn't he have a twitter account so he can complain about people laffin at him?
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It wouldn't be an April Fools joke would it?
Whatever it is, it is hilarious.
Whatever it is, it is hilarious.
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Quite a lot of this may be due to his being chosen, over his elder brothers - there are 3 or 4 - as leader of NK. Sibling rivalries are notorious throughout history; perhaps he is pre-empting any possible future coups be getting the army right behind him. Whatever he is up to, I would say he has deep insecurity problems - and a haircut that looks like it was done by a blind 100 year old man with a blunt machete! LL
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I really don't see Young Fat Wun having a long life ahead of him - if a general doesn't get him, an older sibling will. Technology may change, but human nature and the use, and abuse, of power doesn't.
My money's on him going the same way as Caligula or Nero.
Which will no doubt be announced as him falling off his unicorn, having been targeted by an Evil Yankee Death Ray, or something.
My money's on him going the same way as Caligula or Nero.
Which will no doubt be announced as him falling off his unicorn, having been targeted by an Evil Yankee Death Ray, or something.
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bb1 wrote:Another one:
Shouldn't he have a twitter account so he can complain about people laffin at him?
That is good.
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Stung by criticism that its response to the shelling of a South Korean island in 2010 was tardy and weak, Seoul has also threatened to target North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and to destroy statues of the ruling Kim dynasty in the event of any new attack, a plan that has outraged Pyongyang.
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NOT THE STATUES.
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North Korea pressures South by halting entry to industrial zone
By Ju-min Park
PAJU, South Korea | Wed Apr 3, 2013 4:30am EDT
(Reuters) - North Korea closed access to a joint factory zone with South Korea on Wednesday, officials said, putting at risk $2 billion a year in trade that is vital for an impoverished state with a huge army, nuclear ambitions and a hungry population.
The move marked an escalation in North Korea's months-long standoff with South Korea and its ally Washington. On Tuesday, Pyongyang said it would restart a mothballed nuclear reactor, drawing criticism from the international community, including China, its major benefactor and diplomatic friend.
In Beijing, China's deputy foreign minister met ambassadors from the United States and both Koreas to express "serious concern" about the Korean peninsula, China's Foreign Ministry said, in a sign China is increasingly worried about events spinning out of control. The ministry said the meetings with Deputy Foreign Minister Zhang Yesui took place on Tuesday.
South Korea demanded Pyongyang allow access to the Kaesong Industrial Park, which lies just inside North Korea.
It said North Korea would allow the roughly 800 South Korean factory managers and workers in the zone to return home, but added that only 36 had opted to do so on Wednesday, indicating factories were still operating.
Those remaining in the zone were there by choice but could run out of food because all supplies needed to be trucked in from South Korea, said the Unification Ministry, which handles Seoul's matters with North Korea.
"If this issue is prolonged, the government is aware of such a situation materializing," ministry spokesman Kim Hyung-suk told reporters when asked about food shortages.
The industrial park has not formally stopped operations since it was inaugurated in 2000 as part of efforts to improve ties between the two Koreas. It houses 123 companies and employs 50,000 North Koreans making cheap goods such as clothing.
Some South Korean experts said the North's move might be temporary given the park is a financial lifeline to Pyongyang.
At the South Korean border city of Paju, there was a sense of foreboding that Kaesong would be closed permanently, dealing a death blow to the one remaining example of cooperation between the two Koreas.
"Trust between North and South will fall apart, as well as the trust we have with our buyers. We're going to end up taking the damage from this," Lee Eun-haeng, who runs an apparel firm in Kaesong, told Reuters on the southern side of the border.
Lee's business employs 600 North Koreans who earn $130 on average a month.
The zone has major symbolic value for both North and South Korea. It generates cash for the North and acts as beacon for the economic prosperity of the South inside the grim, centrally planned North Korean economy where jobs are scarce.
"The North Korean workers there are said to have 300,000 family members," said Ahn Chan-il, a former North Korean military official who defected to the South in 1979.
"Does electricity go off in the Kaesong factories at any time? No. But North Korean factories see that happen to their facilities all the time."
WAR OF WORDS
North Korea's latest war of words with Seoul and Washington ratcheted up when the United Nations imposed fresh sanctions on the country for its February 12 nuclear test. At the same time, South Korea and the United States have been staging annual war games, which Pyongyang claims are a prelude to an invasion. Those exercises run throughout April.
Despite the rhetoric and the cutting of telephone hot lines to the South, Pyongyang has not taken any military action and shows no sign of preparing its 1.2 million strong armed forces for war, Washington says.
That would indicate much of the vitriol is intended for domestic consumption to bolster young leader Kim Jong-un ahead of celebrations marking the anniversary of the birthday of Kim Il-sung, the state's founder and the younger Kim's grandfather, on April 15.
Kim has also used the rising tensions to cement his grip on power by appointing a key ally of his uncle and aunt as the country's prime minister.
"At least until the end of April, when drills end, the North is likely to keep up the tensions as it had done in previous years," said Cheong Seong-chang of the Sejong Institute think tank in Seoul.
The 30-year old Kim was showing the North could stand up to the United States and to South Korea's new President Park Geun-hye, who took office just a week after the nuclear test, the country's third, said the defector Ahn.
"North Korea doesn't have the economic power that South Korea has but it's stressing its nuclear abilities to show that it can pull equal weight," he said.
News of the Kaesong closure initially hurt South Korean financial markets. The won currency was trading at a six and a half-month low in early trade but later recovered.
North Korea is heavily reliant on Kaesong and China. Its powerful neighbor accounts for almost $6 billion in trade, according to estimates from Seoul.
One South Korean worker who travels in and out of the zone each day said North Koreans there had become less friendly as tensions had risen in the past month.
"They used to smile at my jokes or the soldiers at customs liked to chit chat. They really liked South Korean duty-free cigarettes but this week it all looks different," said Jang Sun-woo.
By Ju-min Park
PAJU, South Korea | Wed Apr 3, 2013 4:30am EDT
(Reuters) - North Korea closed access to a joint factory zone with South Korea on Wednesday, officials said, putting at risk $2 billion a year in trade that is vital for an impoverished state with a huge army, nuclear ambitions and a hungry population.
The move marked an escalation in North Korea's months-long standoff with South Korea and its ally Washington. On Tuesday, Pyongyang said it would restart a mothballed nuclear reactor, drawing criticism from the international community, including China, its major benefactor and diplomatic friend.
In Beijing, China's deputy foreign minister met ambassadors from the United States and both Koreas to express "serious concern" about the Korean peninsula, China's Foreign Ministry said, in a sign China is increasingly worried about events spinning out of control. The ministry said the meetings with Deputy Foreign Minister Zhang Yesui took place on Tuesday.
South Korea demanded Pyongyang allow access to the Kaesong Industrial Park, which lies just inside North Korea.
It said North Korea would allow the roughly 800 South Korean factory managers and workers in the zone to return home, but added that only 36 had opted to do so on Wednesday, indicating factories were still operating.
Those remaining in the zone were there by choice but could run out of food because all supplies needed to be trucked in from South Korea, said the Unification Ministry, which handles Seoul's matters with North Korea.
"If this issue is prolonged, the government is aware of such a situation materializing," ministry spokesman Kim Hyung-suk told reporters when asked about food shortages.
The industrial park has not formally stopped operations since it was inaugurated in 2000 as part of efforts to improve ties between the two Koreas. It houses 123 companies and employs 50,000 North Koreans making cheap goods such as clothing.
Some South Korean experts said the North's move might be temporary given the park is a financial lifeline to Pyongyang.
At the South Korean border city of Paju, there was a sense of foreboding that Kaesong would be closed permanently, dealing a death blow to the one remaining example of cooperation between the two Koreas.
"Trust between North and South will fall apart, as well as the trust we have with our buyers. We're going to end up taking the damage from this," Lee Eun-haeng, who runs an apparel firm in Kaesong, told Reuters on the southern side of the border.
Lee's business employs 600 North Koreans who earn $130 on average a month.
The zone has major symbolic value for both North and South Korea. It generates cash for the North and acts as beacon for the economic prosperity of the South inside the grim, centrally planned North Korean economy where jobs are scarce.
"The North Korean workers there are said to have 300,000 family members," said Ahn Chan-il, a former North Korean military official who defected to the South in 1979.
"Does electricity go off in the Kaesong factories at any time? No. But North Korean factories see that happen to their facilities all the time."
WAR OF WORDS
North Korea's latest war of words with Seoul and Washington ratcheted up when the United Nations imposed fresh sanctions on the country for its February 12 nuclear test. At the same time, South Korea and the United States have been staging annual war games, which Pyongyang claims are a prelude to an invasion. Those exercises run throughout April.
Despite the rhetoric and the cutting of telephone hot lines to the South, Pyongyang has not taken any military action and shows no sign of preparing its 1.2 million strong armed forces for war, Washington says.
That would indicate much of the vitriol is intended for domestic consumption to bolster young leader Kim Jong-un ahead of celebrations marking the anniversary of the birthday of Kim Il-sung, the state's founder and the younger Kim's grandfather, on April 15.
Kim has also used the rising tensions to cement his grip on power by appointing a key ally of his uncle and aunt as the country's prime minister.
"At least until the end of April, when drills end, the North is likely to keep up the tensions as it had done in previous years," said Cheong Seong-chang of the Sejong Institute think tank in Seoul.
The 30-year old Kim was showing the North could stand up to the United States and to South Korea's new President Park Geun-hye, who took office just a week after the nuclear test, the country's third, said the defector Ahn.
"North Korea doesn't have the economic power that South Korea has but it's stressing its nuclear abilities to show that it can pull equal weight," he said.
News of the Kaesong closure initially hurt South Korean financial markets. The won currency was trading at a six and a half-month low in early trade but later recovered.
North Korea is heavily reliant on Kaesong and China. Its powerful neighbor accounts for almost $6 billion in trade, according to estimates from Seoul.
One South Korean worker who travels in and out of the zone each day said North Koreans there had become less friendly as tensions had risen in the past month.
"They used to smile at my jokes or the soldiers at customs liked to chit chat. They really liked South Korean duty-free cigarettes but this week it all looks different," said Jang Sun-woo.
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China expresses "serious concern" over Korean peninsula
BEIJING | Wed Apr 3, 2013 4:30am EDT
(Reuters) - A Chinese diplomat has met ambassadors from the United States and both Koreas to express "serious concern" over the situation on the Korean peninsula, China's Foreign Ministry said on Wednesday, following a spike in tension.
"Yesterday afternoon, Deputy Foreign Minister Zhang Yesui met the ambassadors of North and South Korea and the United States and expressed serious concern about the present situation on the peninsula," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei told reporters at a daily briefing.
"In the present situation, China believes all sides must remain calm and exercise restraint and not take actions which are mutually provocative and must certainly not take actions which will worsen the situation," he said.
North Korea has threatened a nuclear strike on the United States and missile attacks on its Pacific bases after new U.N. sanctions were imposed for the country's third nuclear weapons test in February. It has also said it was in a state of war with South Korea.
In response, the United States has bolstered its forces in the region. Extra deployments have also coincided with annual military exercises with South Korea, which North Korea says are a prelude to an invasion.
North Korea on Wednesday closed access to a joint factory zone that earns $2 billion a year in trade for the impoverished state.
China hopes all sides can resolve that issue through talks, Hong said.
China has long been accustomed to living with the North as an unpredictable neighbor, which acts as a bulwark against the United States.
But the unusual move to meet all three ambassadors suggests China is growing uneasy with the tension on its doorstep.
BEIJING | Wed Apr 3, 2013 4:30am EDT
(Reuters) - A Chinese diplomat has met ambassadors from the United States and both Koreas to express "serious concern" over the situation on the Korean peninsula, China's Foreign Ministry said on Wednesday, following a spike in tension.
"Yesterday afternoon, Deputy Foreign Minister Zhang Yesui met the ambassadors of North and South Korea and the United States and expressed serious concern about the present situation on the peninsula," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei told reporters at a daily briefing.
"In the present situation, China believes all sides must remain calm and exercise restraint and not take actions which are mutually provocative and must certainly not take actions which will worsen the situation," he said.
North Korea has threatened a nuclear strike on the United States and missile attacks on its Pacific bases after new U.N. sanctions were imposed for the country's third nuclear weapons test in February. It has also said it was in a state of war with South Korea.
In response, the United States has bolstered its forces in the region. Extra deployments have also coincided with annual military exercises with South Korea, which North Korea says are a prelude to an invasion.
North Korea on Wednesday closed access to a joint factory zone that earns $2 billion a year in trade for the impoverished state.
China hopes all sides can resolve that issue through talks, Hong said.
China has long been accustomed to living with the North as an unpredictable neighbor, which acts as a bulwark against the United States.
But the unusual move to meet all three ambassadors suggests China is growing uneasy with the tension on its doorstep.
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This isn't good:
http://news.sky.com/story/1073563/north-korea-poses-real-clear-danger-to-us
North Korea Poses 'Real, Clear Danger To US'
The US defence secretary says North Korea's recent behaviour presents a "real and clear danger" to America and its allies.7:16pm UK, Wednesday 03 April 2013
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North Korea's rhetoric poses a "real and clear danger" to America as well as its allies South Korea and Japan, said US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel.
The US is doing all it can to defuse the situation, Mr Hagel told an audience at the National Defence University.
Mr Hagel said there is a path to peace on the troubled Korean peninsula, but it does not include making nuclear threats or taking provocative actions.
His comments come as tensions continue to rise between North and South Korea, triggering a show of military strength by the US in the surrounding skies and waters.
More follows...
http://news.sky.com/story/1073563/north-korea-poses-real-clear-danger-to-us
North Korea Poses 'Real, Clear Danger To US'
The US defence secretary says North Korea's recent behaviour presents a "real and clear danger" to America and its allies.7:16pm UK, Wednesday 03 April 2013
North Korea's rhetoric poses a "real and clear danger" to America as well as its allies South Korea and Japan, said US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel.
The US is doing all it can to defuse the situation, Mr Hagel told an audience at the National Defence University.
Mr Hagel said there is a path to peace on the troubled Korean peninsula, but it does not include making nuclear threats or taking provocative actions.
His comments come as tensions continue to rise between North and South Korea, triggering a show of military strength by the US in the surrounding skies and waters.
More follows...
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http://news.sky.com/story/1073563/n-korea-warns-of-merciless-nuclear-strike
N Korea Warns Of 'Merciless' Nuclear Strike
North Korea's army says it has approval to attack the US as America moves a missile defence system to Guam.
The North Korean army says it has final approval to launch "merciless" military strikes on the US, the official KCNA news agency said in a statement.
Quoting the General Staff of the Korean People's Army, the statement said the Pyongyang was formally informing Washington that reckless US threats would be "smashed by .... cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means".
"The merciless operation of (our) revolutionary armed forces in this regard has been finally examined and ratified," the statement said.
"The US had better ponder over the prevailing grave situation.
The statement said a war could break out on the Korean peninsula "today or tomorrow".
"The moment of explosion is approaching fast," it said.
Could someone please shoot that lunatic before he does something dreadful?
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From:
http://news.sky.com/story/1073563/north-korea-army-war-could-break-out-today
Pyongyang informed Seoul on Wednesday that it was stopping the daily movement of South Koreans to the Kaesong complex, the last real surviving point of contact between the two countries.
And the committee said: "If the South Korean puppets and conservative news media keep badmouthing (us), we will order all our workers to pull out from Kaesong."
Sensitive souls, aren't they? Hope Young Fat Fool never goes on twitter.....
http://news.sky.com/story/1073563/north-korea-army-war-could-break-out-today
Pyongyang informed Seoul on Wednesday that it was stopping the daily movement of South Koreans to the Kaesong complex, the last real surviving point of contact between the two countries.
And the committee said: "If the South Korean puppets and conservative news media keep badmouthing (us), we will order all our workers to pull out from Kaesong."
Sensitive souls, aren't they? Hope Young Fat Fool never goes on twitter.....
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Oh dear....the Anons hacked the North Korean news wire....
http://news.sky.com/story/1073563/north-korea-army-war-could-break-out-today
North Korean newswire Uriminzokkiri found itself hacked by Anonymous
http://news.sky.com/story/1073563/north-korea-army-war-could-break-out-today
North Korean newswire Uriminzokkiri found itself hacked by Anonymous
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MOSCOW | Fri Apr 5, 2013 4:15pm IST
(Reuters) - North Korea has asked Russia to consider the possibility of evacuating staff from its embassy in Pyongyang due to increasing tension on the Korean Peninsula, a spokesman for the Russian embassy said by phone from Pyongyang on Friday.
The spokesman, Denis Samsonov, said that Russia was examining the request but was not planning to evacuate at this stage, and that there were no outward signs of tension in the North Korean capital.
(Reuters) - North Korea has asked Russia to consider the possibility of evacuating staff from its embassy in Pyongyang due to increasing tension on the Korean Peninsula, a spokesman for the Russian embassy said by phone from Pyongyang on Friday.
The spokesman, Denis Samsonov, said that Russia was examining the request but was not planning to evacuate at this stage, and that there were no outward signs of tension in the North Korean capital.
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Or are they worried in case Russia decides to do a bit of one-sided peacekeeping, LL?
Neither Russia nor China can like having a lunatic threatening to slaughter millions of people on their borders?
Neither Russia nor China can like having a lunatic threatening to slaughter millions of people on their borders?
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There have been some interesting opinions on various TV channels in S Korea and Japan most of which incline to the "N Korea will never launch a war, they know they don't stand a chance" which my daughter says her partner agrees with. Fatty's father occasionally tried the up the anti gambit but each time pulled away from conflict. Another interesting point - it seems Fatty being made a Military Marshall when he had never even served in the forces dies not sit well in the minds of the younger soldiers who have to work their way up the ranks. It would appear that Fatty is bring egged on by older members of the military, ie the ones nearer his father's age. And cerainly they would know that if any Russian was injured during even a minor skirmish, the Red Army would lob a nuclear weapon without a second thought. As my daughter says, we can but wait and see. She also thinks this is really all aimed at the new S Korean President, a woman, by a load of misogynists flexing their flab. After all, the Chinese Army could pulverise those goose-stepping morons with both hands tied behind their back. LL
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That sounds about right to me, LL - Russia wouldn't think twice about obliterating Young Fat Fool.
IMO, the US cannot do much beyond be on high alert, unless Fat Fool starts a war; the ideal solution would be for China or Russia to deal with him.
Rather as Vietnam had to get rid of Pot Pol?
IMO, the US cannot do much beyond be on high alert, unless Fat Fool starts a war; the ideal solution would be for China or Russia to deal with him.
Rather as Vietnam had to get rid of Pot Pol?
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My daughter says if Fatty does start hostilities when he and his 'dynasty' is doomed; the Chinese, who apparently have lost patience with NK, wouldn't hesitate to wipe the whole lot out with one missile. It must be worrying for them, nuclear fallout, assuming we believe Fatty has anything like a nuke bomb, would end in slow death for many Chinese. What is interesting is that SK is still carrying on as before, as are the Japanese; the US has sent planes and warships to defend SK and Guam. I think all we can do is sit and wait. I live the Anonymous hackers' attack, it's all over the net in every country and makes Fatty look very foolish. Oh, the range of this missile NK have just shunted to their coastline also covers South Russia .... LL
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the Chinese, who apparently have lost patience with NK, wouldn't hesitate to wipe the whole lot out with one missile. It must be worrying for them, nuclear fallout, assuming we believe Fatty has anything like a nuke bomb, would end in slow death for many Chinese.
That is what really gets me, LL, and is almost being lost in the noise.
Fat Fool is threatening millions of innocent people with death in a nuclear war HE is threatening to start.
North Korea being a giant concentration camp clearly isn't enough misery for him.
To me, the days are long gone of demonising entire populations because of their insane leaders - no-one wants a war with the people of North Korea.
But, if China was to drop a very large MOAB on Fat Fool and his inner circle, the entire world would cheer.
That is what really gets me, LL, and is almost being lost in the noise.
Fat Fool is threatening millions of innocent people with death in a nuclear war HE is threatening to start.
North Korea being a giant concentration camp clearly isn't enough misery for him.
To me, the days are long gone of demonising entire populations because of their insane leaders - no-one wants a war with the people of North Korea.
But, if China was to drop a very large MOAB on Fat Fool and his inner circle, the entire world would cheer.
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He also forgets that fallout is non-discriminatory, winds can carry it anywhere, including over NK. LL
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From Fox News, long so I've posted the link. LL
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/05/north-korea-aggression-could-strengthen-us-china-alliance/
And from the Telegraph, UK warned re embassy in NK.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-warns-britain-to-evacuate-embassy-in-pyongyang-and-moves-midrange-missiles-to-coast-sparking-fears-of-imminent-strike-8561596.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/05/north-korea-aggression-could-strengthen-us-china-alliance/
And from the Telegraph, UK warned re embassy in NK.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-warns-britain-to-evacuate-embassy-in-pyongyang-and-moves-midrange-missiles-to-coast-sparking-fears-of-imminent-strike-8561596.html
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The news came after a further day of tension, during which the Prime Minister David Cameron claimed that North Korea now possessed the capability to launch a nuclear strike against Britain.
Cameron is an ar@e.
Cameron is an ar@e.
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