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Post  bb1 Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:11 pm

Well, they can't be too worried in South Korea, Psy's got a new record coming out...

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South Korean rapper Psy plans to follow his Gangnam Style YouTube megahit with a single called Gentleman.
The new track will also feature a new dance, but Psy is playing coy about everything else ahead of the song’s release, which was moved up a day to 12 April.
The song will be available for Korean fans then, but Psy will perform it in public for the first time at an 13 April concert.
'The new song is extremely fun and . . . what I can tell you is the song title is Gentleman,’  Psy told local television late Monday.
'I can’t tell you about the dance, but all Koreans know this dance — but [those in] other countries haven’t seen it,' Psy added, hinting at a takeoff on a traditional dance.



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Pity Young Fat Fool can't do anything creative like learning to rap and make dance videos.
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Post  Lamplighter Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:12 am

Latest today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22075222

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/08/world/asia/koreas-tensions/index.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/09/us-korea-north-idUSBRE93408020130409

My daughter says that this latest warning is probably due to NK's warning re the staff at embassies should leave there for safety's sake which fell on deaf ears. So long as the foreigners stay in SK the North will be signing its own death sentence if they were to bomb SK. LL

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Post  Lamplighter Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:23 am

Interesting article in The Telegraph.

North Korea's army was deeply split over whether to accept the command of Kim Jong-un, a former officer has revealed, giving a possible clue to the tensions lying behind the young leader's calls to war

By Malcolm Moore, Dandong

7:00PM BST 09 Apr 2013

First Lieutenant Kim, 42, said he had been forced to flee North Korea after he murdered a rival officer as the factions within his army unit battled for control.

"I killed a three-star company commander, the same rank as me," he said. "He was the head of the faction supporting Kim Jong-un. There were two fights. In the first fight, they surrounded us and arrested a lot of people.

"But I got away and gathered others from the barracks. We found them and I shot the commander. After that, I escaped".

The battles occurred at the end of 2011, shortly before Kim Jong-un succeeded his father as the "supreme commander" of the Korean People's Army, the 1.2 million-strong standing force that remains at the heart of North Korea's "military-first" society.

"It was before he came to power, but we all knew for a long time that he was going to be made the leader. There were a lot of people who were against him. But everyone in that faction got arrested after he came to power," said Lt. Kim.

His group, he said, supported Kim Yong-nam, North Korea's 85-year-old president.

Divisions within the military, and the desire of a leader who may be only 30-years-old to consolidate his position, could be one factor behind the current spate of aggression.

"The further north you go (in North Korea), the more you hear rumours of dissension and divisions over who is or who would have been a better leader," said Joseph Bermudez, an expert on the North Korean military and an analyst at DigitalGlobe.

He added that there had been rumours last year of a possibly violent falling-out between two major departments over who would be in charge of army reconnaissance. That, he said, might have alarmed Kim Jong-un, who subsequently reshuffled a host of leading generals.

Lt Kim, who would not give his first name, said he was from Uiju county, close to the Chinese border city of Dandong. He has spent the last two years lying low in China, rarely venturing out, and waiting for his chance to travel to South Korea.

"We knew that South Korea was on a path to democracy and they had a good life and they had enough food. I had never eaten rice, and I cried the first time I smelled it cooking here in China," he added.

Wearing a pair of cheap Chinese trainers, a patterned jumper and a green Chinese army surplus great coat, a palpably scared Lt Kim was unable to offer any formal identification. His left arm hung awkwardly from an old wound to his shoulder.

If he is caught by the Chinese, he will be sent back to face either the death penalty or life in a gulag.

A halting interview with him, in the back of a taxi parked in the sparse countryside outside Dandong, was arranged through an agent who is helping to smuggle him to the South, and who charged £100 to speak to the former officer.

"I give him food," the agent said. "He used to be skinny, but after staying indoors these years, he has eaten well.

"I have contact with the South Korean spies who are here in Dandong. They keep an eye on relations between China and the North, but they also pay for me to deliver North Koreans to them. He will probably be sold next month, but until then the North Koreans are searching for him." The agent, a trim ethnic Korean in a nylon bomber jacket, declined to give his name.

He claimed that he had smuggled out 60 to 80 people out last year, many of whom were escaping after internal riots last year in Manpo, another city close to the border. "Only three in 10 defectors are successful," he said. "The others are arrested or are shot as they escape."

After two years outside of the country, Lt Kim said he had "no idea" what lay behind this month's aggression. "I do not know why they are doing what they are doing now," he said.

"Before I left, we used to hear that there was fighting between Kim Jong-un and his brother, who does not like China. They have different mothers so they are struggling against each other."

But he predicted there would be "no war" and that the regime would continue its hold on power, despite the desperate problems in many parts of the country.

"The situation is very bad. People are starving. There are some rich people, some rich politicians, who have a lot of money, but the rest of the people do not have anything. My father and mother both starved to death and my older brother died of illness," he said.

Lt Kim said he had commanded a construction company which excavated mountains for military installations.

"We were digging fortifications to prepare for war," he said. "Some of the projects would last for six years."

Mr Bermudez said there was still not enough information to establish the motive for North Korea's war footing. "We have not seen this before. We might be seeing that the generals have been given far more room and they are exploiting that, without really understanding the effect on the international community."

When asked if the North Korean army is still strong, Lt Kim answered automatically: "Yes, very strong". The man who smuggled him out of North Korea, however, doubled up laughing at the officer's response.

"They are taught that they are the strongest army in the world, and the best equipped. But in reality, their equipment is what we were using in China 60 years ago!" he said.

See the aircraft picture in link below, I reckon 5 minutes for US fighters to demolish them!!!! LL

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Post  Lamplighter Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:44 am

The NY Times latest.

I also heard on the radio this morning that it may be the power behind Fatty's regime may be his uncle and aunt. I found the story, link below/ LL

http://www.news.com.au/world-news/kim-jong-uns-aunt-kim-kyong-hui-and-uncle-jang-sung-taek-calling-the-shots-in-north-korea/story-fndir2ev-1226614836996
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Post  lily Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:54 am

Interesting, thank you LL.

Did you see this?

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Read the 2nd paragraph on the left. No wonder he is getting fatter and is so ridiculous. Shocked rofl
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Are those left over from the last Korean war? Shocked
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:05 am

From the New Straits Times. Never their fault, is it? LL

N. Korea blames South's leader for Kaesong closure

SEOUL: North Korea on Thursday renewed a threat to permanently close its Kaesong joint industrial zone with South Korea, blaming the “confrontation” policies of the South’s new president, Park Geun-Hye.

Pyongyang announced the withdrawal of its 53,000 workers and the suspension of operations at Kaesong at the beginning of this week, as military tensions on the Korean peninsula soar.

President Park, who was sworn in at the end of February, described the move as “very disappointing” and warned the North it would severely impact the trust of future investors.

“Needless to say Kaesong industrial district will cease to exit should the Park Geun-Hye regime continue pursuing confrontation,” the North’s Bureau for Central Guidance to the Development of the Special Zone said.

“The current powerholder in the South can never be able to shake off responsibility for having Kaesong, which survived even the traitor Lee Myung-Bak’s term in office, all but closed,” a bureau spokesman said.

During her presidential campaign, Park had said she would be more flexible in dealing with the North than her predecessor Lee, who took a hardline stance toward Pyongyang.

But the North’s recent nuclear tensions sparked a cycle of escalating tensions that have put rapprochement on the far back burner.

The bureau spokesman said South Korean “warmongering” had been responsible for the decision to suspend the activity of the 123 South Korean firms in Kaesong, which lies 10 kilometres (six miles) inside the North.

Pyongyang had been incensed by Defence Minister Kim Kwan-Jin’s remarks that the South had a “military” contingency plan to ensure the safety of its people working in the zone.

It was also angered by South Korean media and analysts saying that the North would not dare to close Kaesong — a crucial source of hard currency for the impoverished state.-- AFP


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Post  Lamplighter Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:09 am

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/10/world/asia/koreas-tensions/index.html

Hagel really should button his lip, his comments could really ratchet things up even further. LL
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Post  lily Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:10 am

Personally, I think Hagel is rather useless anyways.
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:23 am

lily wrote:Personally, I think Hagel is rather useless anyways.
I agree, but it's a stupid remark by him that could cause more trouble. He should shut his mouth up totally and let Kerry deal with this. It requires diplomacy not threats. LL
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:46 pm

Latest, NK have lifted one of the Musudan missiles into an upright, ie firing position. LL

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/11/world/asia/koreas-tensions/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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Post  rhodes Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:59 pm

Have you seen the size of the heels on the women soldiers?
Why do they wear shoes like that? Is it to make them look taller so therefore more powerful?

http://news.sky.com/story/1076650/north-koreas-missiles-in-upright-position

And I take it that the current posturing is just a massive coincidence in that it's the 1st year anniversary of his appointment to leader?
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Post  lily Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:10 pm

LL, if he's done that, with the intent of firing, he will regret it for sure.
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:15 pm

Hi Rhodes, this is all to consolidate his position and show his slaves people that he is indeed a Great Leader and a power to be considered and revered as equal to the other Great Nuclear Powers. It reminds me of the Cold War with the Soviets and the US often trading threats to leash nuclear winter on each other. Well, they did have huge nuclear arsenals to toss around, but NK has aged ex-Soviet and Chinese equipment that would be easily wiped out by the US. My daughter's husband, who is SK and, because of his profession, knows all about this kind of thing is dismissive of all the hot air blowing across the DMZ. As he says, the NKs won't launch a nuclear war as they would also perish - winds don't differentiate between those throwing the bombs and those getting bombed. That was why the Cold War went no further than words and sabre-rattling - either side bombing the other would condemn their own people to a slow painful death. LL
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Post  bb1 Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:25 pm

It helped that Kennedy, Khrushchev, etc, weren't insane, and knew only too well what ignoring MAD would lead to...
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Post  lily Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:34 pm

They knew it was check and mate.
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Post  bb1 Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:42 pm

I am very glad that the leaders of the superpowers are sensible, whatever else they may be, these days, and not idealogically driven.

IMO, the best outcome would be for China to deal with Young Fat Fool, as China is a liberal democracy in comparison to North Korea. For a communist nation, China's taken to making money with enthusiasm that would make a Thatcherite blush.

And I don't believe that every single person in North Korea worships Young Fat Fool; I suspect most of them keep their thoughts to themselves and go through the motions with some fine acting to stay out of concentration camps.
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Post  rhodes Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:47 pm

Lamplighter wrote:Hi Rhodes, this is all to consolidate his position and show his slaves people that he is indeed a Great Leader and a power to be considered and revered as equal to the other Great Nuclear Powers. It reminds me of the Cold War with the Soviets and the US often trading threats to leash nuclear winter on each other. Well, they did have huge nuclear arsenals to toss around, but NK has aged ex-Soviet and Chinese equipment that would be easily wiped out by the US. My daughter's husband, who is SK and, because of his profession, knows all about this kind of thing is dismissive of all the hot air blowing across the DMZ. As he says, the NKs won't launch a nuclear war as they would also perish - winds don't differentiate between those throwing the bombs and those getting bombed. That was why the Cold War went no further than words and sabre-rattling - either side bombing the other would condemn their own people to a slow painful death. LL

Aren't a lot of his people starving to death? He himself looks far from hungry though.

The way he going on is all so old and boring isn't it? Like you said, he's not the first and won't be the last.

If he WAS to launch something, would his brainwashed people accept it was for "the greater good"?
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Post  bb1 Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:00 pm

I watched a documentary a few nights ago, most of it secretly filmed by people who were in North Korea with a Western doctor performing eye surgery which we take for granted - cataracts, etc - but which is almost unknown there.

And what a God-awful, wretched place it is! All very nice for the party elite, who are never in danger of missing a meal, but it was depressing, grey, barren...and the testimony from the few people who've managed to escape was horrifying.

They simply knew nothing of the outside world. They didn't even know they were living in a giant concentration camp, because they'd never known anything else.

I doubt if they realise how pathetic all that posturing is, or that if Fat Fool did lob anything towards the west, North Korea would cease to exist an hour later.
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:06 pm

As in all dictatorships, the dictator, his family and friends and usually the military do not starve. They prosper while the ordinary people die in their thousands of famine, disease or in the gulags for daring to be defiant. Like in Nazi Germany, it is the military who have full bellies, which is why so many people join them. Ideology vary rarely plays a part, feeding your family and putting a roof over their heads transcends any beliefs being promulgated each day to the peasants. There are daily attempts to escape from NK, some succeed, others do not. But there is a chance, with the Chinese fast losing patience, that this will blow over. The problem for the Chinese is that they do not want the two Koreas united, they fear the US being on their borders, so they will continue to prop up the Kim regime. LL
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Post  bb1 Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:28 pm


Have you seen the size of the heels on the women soldiers?

They look ridiculous.

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Femme fatales: Female North Korean soldiers patrol along the banks of Yalu River, near the town of Sinuiju, as the world remained on high alert for a North Korean missile launch

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What on earth are they wearing platform shoes for? Are they hoping to seduce any passing Yankee Devils, who will never have seen such gorgeousness before?

Or hoping for a part in Psy's next dance video?
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Post  lily Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:33 pm

What on earth are they wearing platform shoes for? Are they hoping to seduce any passing Yankee Devils, who will never have seen such gorgeousness before?

Possibly. Women don't have modern shoes in the US. Wink
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Post  bb1 Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:39 pm

I actually watched the video interview with some female soldier on the Mail site, and very silly she was, too. Apparently, they are going to reduce Seoul and Washington to a sea of flames with their pinpoint precision nuclear missiles, or something.

Deluded creature simply had no idea of what the outside world is like. Or that if Fat Fool does anything, he's liable to have a couple of precision nuclear warheads heading his way courtesy of Moscow and Beijing.
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:59 pm

It's not the silly shoes that amaze me, it's all those bouncing boobs!! Lawd knows what stress all that foot slamming on hard concrete does to the spine. LL rofl rofl

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