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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:31 pm

This is the culprit:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/248474/Vile-troll-s-warning-to-McCanns

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Vile troll's warning to McCanns
AN INTERNET troll warned over vile messages about Madeleine McCann’s parents last night boasted: “The only way to shut me up is to jail me or kill me.”

By Tracey Kandohla/Published 29th April 2012

Sean Hyland, 50, was cautioned last year over hateful remarks he made about Kate and Gerry McCann and their spokesman.

But when we confronted him he vowed to carry on with his campaign of sick comments.

The steel worker insisted he was “no conspiracy nut” but he could face fresh police action if he continues with his messages.

Hyland posted offensive comments and also left messages on the answerphone of McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell.

He branded the dad-of-three “a defender of kiddie killers”, “a pathetic pervert”, “a prat” and doctors Kate and Gerry “quacks”.

In one online message he threatened: “We’re not reactive, we’re proactive, we’re attacking you.”

And in another Hyland wrote: “I think the messages I left 4 Clarence Mitchell on his answerphone have rattled him.”

Mr Mitchell, from North Finchley, London, first reported the malicious communication to his local police.

A McCann source said: “It is vile abuse, very upsetting for all concerned, and must be stopped. Thankfully, the police are now involved.”

Scotland Yard officers asked for help from colleagues in Humberside who cover the area where Hyland lives.

A Met spokesman said: “The matter was dealt with by way of a first instance harassment warning being served on the suspect a month later.

“As yet, no further action has been taken.”

A Humberside Police source said: “There has been a formal complaint and he has now been warned.”

But in the week Scotland Yard detectives reviewing the case claimed Madeleine might still be alive, Hyland continued his rantings.

He said: “I’m still convinced Clarence Mitchell is lying on behalf of Kate and Gerry McCann.

“My theory is the child died and her parents are involved in hiding her body and they are using the Government and taxpayers’ money to evade justice. The McCanns repulse me, Clarence Mitchell is a liar and the only way to shut me up is to put me in jail or kill me.

“I’m not the sharpest knife in the block but I’m not the village idiot. I am no conspiracy nut.”

Kate, 44, and Gerry, 43, face the agonising fifth anniversary of their daughter’s disappearance from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on Thursday.

The couple, from Rothley, Leics, are convinced their daughter, who would be nine, is still alive.

Mr Mitchell said: “The matter is in the hands of the police and I cannot comment.”


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See? It wasn't him that made the threat to kidnap one of the twins, it was one of the other 3A whackjobs - Laffin just threatened to kill people.

With the approval of the mods who are now denying any of this happened.  liar liar liar
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Post  Lamplighter Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:36 pm

bb1 wrote:Yes, LL - that IS his twitter name.
Okay, thanks. thumbsup 
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:08 pm

SO observes the documents must be elements of proof in the remit defined for the process. He thinks they have nothing to do with it. This forum 3A doesn't exist anymore and what is the legitimacy of the documents? He wonders also who were the authors of those blogs.


So THAT'S why Fakelily was shouting and screaming demands! rofl rofl rofl rofl 

Acting as a sad little gofer again. rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 

Guedes hasn't made a very good job of whitewashing this one, all the spinning, omitting and editing in the world can't hide what a disaster this is for Gonzo, or how clueless and petty the defence lawyers are.

Portuguese courts seem to be most peculiar, almost slipshod, in comparison to UK courts. If one is to believe 'reports' on sites over-run by McCann-haters.
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:17 pm

Sadly for Gonc's lawyer, claiming that the death threats, kidnap threats, etc., emanating from 3A don't count as it doesn't exist any more -

Makes about as much sense as claiming that the New York deaths on 9/11 don't count because the WTC doesn't exist any more.

Doesn't he grasp cause and effect?
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:22 pm

Oh goodie, Marinho Pinto is scheduled to evidence against Gonzo later. yaydance 
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:27 pm

He says Tony Bennett invited Gonçalo Amaral to do conferences in the UK. These forums were full of speculation focused on GA's conclusions. People said those conclusions must be true because GA had been in charge of the initial investigation.

No wonder the hounders sound so panicky! And that loony jeanmonro person's drawn more attention to the McCann-haters by hassling the police. rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:29 pm


ID - Is this dialogue on the forum? Can you get a copy?
MW says he has a copy and can deliver it.

ID - asks if it's possible to put the paper copy on the internet?
MW thinks the 3A doesn't exist anymore. He says the McCanns took action against this threat and against the Madeleine Foundation. The main page of MF had the 5 conclusions.

ID asks whether he has a copy.
MW says he has screen shots. He adds he had to tell his cousins about the threats. They reported them to the UK police (Leicestershire Police). He was visited by a police officer on the matter.



Feeling a bit stupid now, are they? Starting to panic? Good!

BTW, the monroe loony would appear to have hassled the WRONG police force. rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:35 pm

Amélie googled her name and told Kate and Gerry she had found a site, Madeleine Foundation, which was at the top.

OMG! The poor child found the hounders' filth! Crying or Very sad 
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:38 pm

Re: Lisbon Libel Trial McCanns v Amaral
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Jean, your inquiry is professional and spot on! I am in awe of your ability to cut to the chase. Thank you so much for taking the initiative, and for doing it so well


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Re: Lisbon Libel Trial McCanns v Amaral
Post jeanmonroe on Sat 21 Sep - 13:40

My E-Mail to NYP.

To: general.enquiries@northyorkshire.pnn.police.uk ;

Subject: Your investigation into McCann twins 'threat'


Why on earth would the Yorkshire police be investigating it? Pcorneater 
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:02 pm

Forker:

All the 3As rubbish has basically been ruled as irrelevant. As has Michael Wright, as an impartial witness.

No it hasn't - do try to read things accurately. Even allowing for the spin cycle this is being put through by Gonzo's mate the 'court reporter' and by Editor Admin, this is a disaster for Gonzo.

The court has been presented with clear evidence of the damage he's done, and his lawyer's petty objections and huffs have achieved nothing.

Do these people actually grasp what this trial is about, or do they still believe the addled Bullsh't's interpretations of what appeared in UK tabloids years ago?
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:42 pm

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@Mumblingaway @1matthewwright1 The judge considers the 3as stuff irrelevant for the court !  #McCann


People as dumb as that really shouldn't be allowed anywhere near keyboards. Pcorneater

jon tait ‏@jontait42
So the 3a "kidnap" fantasy is dismissed by the judge. Strange didn't see THAT nugget reported by media! #McCann


That would be because it wasn't. Why do they think Fakelily and her ilk have been so desperate to get a copy? Pcorneater 
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:30 pm

http://m.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/story.html?aid=19831832

Madeleine McCann: Theorists incited by claims of detective
Leicester Mercury
Sep 23rd, 2013

A friend of Gerry and Kate McCann has told a court that internet trolls had incited conspiracy theorists to kidnap missing Madeleine's brother and sister after reading claims in a detective's book.

A report by Mail Online said Michael Wright told a libel trial in Lisbon the threat was fuelled by the ex-police chief's claims about the McCanns .

Goncalo Amaral had claimed in a book that the couple had faked Madeleine's abduction to cover up her death in their Algarve holiday apartment.

Gerry and Kate McCann, from Rothley, are suing the former Portuguese detective over his July 2008 book, The Truth of the Lie.

Mrs McCann has brought a case of libel against the former police chief who she says launched a "smear campaign" against her.

The couple have also launched £1 million libel proceedings at Lisbon's Palace of Justice against Mr Amaral's book publishers and a TV station which broadcast a documentary based on his claims.

Mr Wright, husband of Kate McCann's cousin Anne-Marie, told the court the theories in Mr Amaral's book gave conspiracy theorists and anti- McCann internet forums a focus.

According to the report, Mr Wright said: 'There were several examples of them inciting forum members to abduct one of the twins as they felt they would be able to throw some light on what may have happened."

Mr Wright, who helped monitor internet activity on missing Madeleine for the couple, said he felt compelled to tell Gerry and he was interviewed by police from his home in North Yorkshire after they decided detectives should be alerted.

Mr Amaral's book was published three days after the McCanns had their status as suspects formally lifted.

The case, due to finish hearing evidence in November, continues next Friday.
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:32 pm

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ROFL Too bloody funny, trying to analyse witness statements based on Guedes "reports", LOL Have they not read her posts? Hilarious #McCann


Quite. Never mind, she has a convicted fraudster helping to 'edit' them. The McCann-haters really do need to calm down.

On the other hand....no, let's just encourage them to carry on with their lunacy. Their tears before bedtime are always hilarious.Pcorneater 
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:38 pm

PS - As long as the so-called 'Justice' forum continues to support anti-McCann posters who have been banned from anti-McCann sites because of their vile behaviour;

As long as the so-called 'Justice' forum continues to show bias towards anti-McCann posters;

Then NO-ONE on this side of the debate is going to do other than treat their 'court reports' with anything other than a very large bucket of salt.

To do work like that, people must be unbiased, not close friends of the defendant, posting 'reports' on an obviously biased site.
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:13 pm

No Wonder they want the twins kept away from the Internet
Post Keela Today

I have just googled the name Amelie McCann. There is a section of images and what a lot of photos there are there! including the famous "wedding" picture of them coming out of church on what would have been Madeleine's birthday. Scrolling through these I am not surprised they want them to be kept away from the internet, just one of those pictures could start a torrent of questions. Try it yourself, very illuminating.


These creatures seem proud of their handiwork, when they should be ashamed.mad 
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:30 pm

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#mccann

Why is there such an issue over MW having a few notes ? Some people in such a situation just go completely blank.


Because forkers are all as thick as two short planks, and are swallowing down Gonc's chum's 'court report' without asking pertinent questions.

Like, why did Guedes omit a big chunk of Edgar's testimony? Why are they actually believing every single word of this, from someone who mangles the English language beyond recognition, and whose court notes are being rewritten by a convicted fraudster?

Not that I care, I hasten to add, their mass hysteria will be all the more entertaining when they find out they've been played for fools yet again.
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:15 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatekeeping_(communication)

Gatekeeping is the process through which information is filtered for dissemination, whether for publication, broadcasting, the Internet, or some other mode of communication. The academic theory of gatekeeping is found in multiple fields of study, including communication studies, journalism, political science, and sociology.[1] It was originally focused on the mass media with its few-to-many dynamic but now gatekeeping theory also addresses face-to-face communication and the many-to-many dynamic inherent in the Internet. The theory was first instituted by social psychologist Kurt Lewin in 1943.[2] Gatekeeping occurs at all levels of the media structure — from a reporter deciding which sources are chosen to include in a story to editors deciding which stories are printed or covered, and includes media outlet owners and even advertisers. Individuals can also act as gatekeepers, deciding what information to include in an e-mail or in a blog, for example.

Good job the McCanns insisted the trial be heard in public, isn't it?
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:16 pm

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There was a chat where a poster suggested someone should kidnap a twin to get to the truth. < hardly a PLOT #lmao #mccann


That sick fkc laughing its ar@e off about a threat to kidnap a child illustrates perfectly the kind of bottom-feeders that support Amoral.
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:36 pm

I am in stitches at the way the McCann-haters, having been experts on psychology last week, are now all legal experts...typical forker pronouncement:

5 minutes on google is enough to blow pretty much everything we've heard out of the water as far as I can tell.

Google? MWHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA rofl rofl rofl rofl 

How do these people manage to tie their own shoelaces? They can't see anything at all iffy with swallowing down 'court reports' from someone close to the defendant, who is notorious for mangling, spinning and twisting the English language, but thankfully is being assisted in polishing her 'reports' by a convicted fraudster.

What could possibly go wrong? rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 
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Post  lily Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:43 pm

NOTHING. rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:46 pm

You know, they really need someone to put all these 'court reports' into the form of press releases, get themselves a bit of publicity. They'd need an old hand for that, someone who's used to putting carefully-spun and edited material into the public domain to entertain the deluded and gullible.

Maybe they should drop Duarte Levy a line? He'd be perfect for the job. biggrin 
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Post  bb1 Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:13 am

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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #144 on: Today at 10:05:34 AM »


Quote from: Angelo222 on Today at 09:04:11 AM
But they are liars China, little white or otherwise..it is all a matter of degrees.

Everyone lies and anyone who claims they don't are well...LIARS.  


You are evading the issue, Angelo - and you know it.  

This forum started out purporting to be a neutral place for both sides of this thorny issue to be debated, and it had some pretty reasonable conditions which it imposed on its members in order to keep the debate civil and credible.  One of them was the rule of not bringing here opinion pieces and posts from other forums.  In the last few weeks this has gone by the wayside and we now have any number of anti-McCann forum opinions being offered here as "evidence" to support outrageous claims such as the one in this thread.

These opinions have been written by people without credibility in the real world, most of whom don't even write under their real names - just internet pseudonyms, and those whose identities have been established turn out to be non-entities who have little to no authority, experience or insight to speak with acceptable credibility on issues surrounding this case, but whose stance on this matter is clearly prejudiced.

Allowing such rubbish in here has diminished any value this forum could have had.


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Not to mention the protection of some of the worst hater trolls in this part of cyber-space; it's part of the reason Guedes' 'court reports' are actually valueless for anyone seeking genuinely independent, truthful, information.
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Re: The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns
« Reply #153 on: Today at 10:48:05 AM »


Quote from: Benita on Today at 10:34:55 AM

this forum diminished any value when redblossom arrived ..shes banned from from everywhere else even the anti forums dumped her so what does that tell ya..

What's the prob with Red? Is it because she knows her facts on the case so well or because she has a wicked sense of humour??
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See? Emu's speshul. And these aren't demented, abusive ravings from a drunk, they're a wicked sense of humour.

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fk you too then? isn't it? pathetic little person, you pathetic little numbnut making out i support torture, wonder what your little problem really is then, oh gawd, i was right when i said last night bring out the vomit buckets, the posters came out to prove me right, all day, never mind, stroll on

Posted by: emilyb3. on October 6, 2011 9:30 PMchocotruffle, its best to eat your own sh it when you are a liar, night have nice dreams though

Posted by: emilyb3. on October 6, 2011 9:49 PMleavng the choco lying little ba stard and his mate lizzi little b itch and their mate lying little lilac to rot in hell tonight cos thats what liars deserve, nite

Posted by: emilyb3. on October 6, 2011 9:51 PMsorry to puke over you lot before go xx dont mean it


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Post  bb1 Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:52 pm

That's a bit of a clanger Guedes has dropped. Might be an idea for the McCann-haters to put the cork back in the bottle. Pcorneater 
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