Re: Unknown young girl rescued from Greek gypsy camp

**bb1** Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:31 pm

Interesting link posted there:

http://john-clare.com/blogs/algarve/crime.html

**Pedro Silva** Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:47 pm

My friends, this was taken from Sky News:

http://news.sky.com/story/1156981/mystery-blonde-girl-was-well-looked-after

**lily** Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:56 pm

Interesting link posted there:

http://john-clare.com/blogs/algarve/crime.html

Sounds familiar. Drunk, long food breaks, not coming, not bothering.

**bb1** Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:58 pm

'Well looked after'? According to the people who took her, were using her for illegal begging, and were only caught because of a drugs/arms raid?

I think I'll take that one with a bucket of salt...especially as videos are telling a very different story.

**bb1** Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:06 pm

Remember all the stories we've read about home invasions in the Algarve, Lily? And the spate of armed attacks on hotels, which got so bad, there was talk of arming hotel security?

That is unheard-of elsewhere in Europe - it's more like some Middle East war zone.

**bb1** Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:15 pm

Imbecile hounder explains why the child looks so pale:

She must have been incredibly bored staying in from 11a.m. - 4pm to keep her out of the sun and under the "non-mother's" feet all day as well, but most prob. they did remember to put the sun cream on her and cover her up in long sleeves etc when she did go out to play with the other children.

The health message must have got through to them about staying covered and not burning for those with lighter skins and good on them I say.

Have you ever heard anything so totally deluded? FFS, look at the encampment she was found in - the only things being looked after were the satellite dishes.

You wonder what world these people live in - do they actually believe the rubbish they write?

**lily** Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:35 pm

Remember all the stories we've read about home invasions in the Algarve, Lily? And the spate of armed attacks on hotels, which got so bad, there was talk of arming hotel security?

That is unheard-of elsewhere in Europe - it's more like some Middle East war zone.

Most certainly do. Morais and cabal were trying to make it sound like they lived in some sort of paradise whereas the reality was something else.

It became obvious too quickly how easily they lied. mad

**lily** Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:41 pm

bb1 wrote:Imbecile hounder explains why the child looks so pale:

She must have been incredibly bored staying in from 11a.m. - 4pm to keep her out of the sun and under the "non-mother's" feet all day as well, but most prob. they did remember to put the sun cream on her and cover her up in long sleeves etc when she did go out to play with the other children.

The health message must have got through to them about staying covered and not burning for those with lighter skins and good on them I say.

Have you ever heard anything so totally deluded? FFS, look at the encampment she was found in - the only things being looked after were the satellite dishes.

You wonder what world these people live in - do they actually believe the rubbish they write?

You wonder what world these people live in - do they actually believe the rubbish they write?

In a dream world where she wears rose colored glasses.

The health message? Put sun cream on her? Unbelievable.

I bet that that idiot has some horrible things to say about the McCanns though.

**bb1** Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:15 pm

I wonder what kind of 'health message' that idiot hounder imagines these send?

Unknown young girl rescued from Greek gypsy camp - Page 3 Two-way-comp-1-522x293

Unknown young girl rescued from Greek gypsy camp - Page 3 Two-way-comp-1-522x293

http://news.sky.com/story/1156981/mystery-blonde-girl-eight-promising-leads

Has he watched the video of the child being treated like a performer in a freak show? Or would that be a bit too much reality?

**lily** Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:26 pm

I swear that they see different images to us. Unbelievingly shocking.

**Pedro Silva** Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:19 pm

My friends, this was taken from Correio da Manhã newspaper:

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/internacional/mundo/maria-obrigada-a-dancar-para-pedir-esmola

Greece

Maria forced to dance for money

still unknown is the identity of the Greek girl found in gypsy camp .

Maria , the four year old girl found in a gypsy camp in Farsala , Greece, may have been forced to dance by the "fathers " to earn money.

While still trying to figure out the identity of the girl, it was revealed a video on the Internet , where you see the child dance , a little confused , with the granddaughter of the leader of the camp. The video is available at the end of this article .

With suspicions that Mary have been kidnapped , the couple was heard on Monday in court , which stated that did not abducted the girl , but the mother of the minor gave her to the couple shortly after being born .

The non-governmental organization that hosted Maria revealed that lived in poor conditions and was terrified when she was found , saying a few words . It was also revealed that the hair would have been painted in order to hide the lack of similarity with the other members of the camp .

However , the Greek authorities have received more than 8000 calls with clues to the identity of Mary or the whereabouts of the biological parents .

**bb1** Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:25 pm

That video is shocking - why on earth idiots thought the child's supposed parents would be ensuring she used factor 50 suntan cream is beyond me.

I suspect they're not the sharpest tools in the box....

Unknown young girl rescued from Greek gypsy camp - Page 3 Abductors-and-maria-1-626x352

Unknown young girl rescued from Greek gypsy camp - Page 3 Abductors-and-maria-1-626x352

Mind you, they appear to have been bright enough to defraud the Greek benefits system by acquiring ten children who weren't theirs....

**lily** Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:56 pm

Quite, Bonny.

It also appears that little Ben Needham was thought to have been seen in a gypsy camp not too long after he went missing. The police were too afraid to go and take a look. mad

**bb1** Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:44 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1158088/ireland-blonde-roma-girl-taken-into-care

Ireland: Blonde Roma Girl Taken Into Care

A child aged around seven is being cared for by Irish authorities after police raided a Roma camp near Dublin following a tip off.

A blonde girl thought to be aged around seven and living with a Roma family in Ireland has been taken into care, Sky Sources have revealed.

Police are understood to have swooped on the family after a tip off from a member of the public.

The girl, who also has blue eyes, was taken into care after officers called to a house in the Dublin suburb of Tallaght on Monday afternoon.

Concerns were raised after the member of the public saw the blonde girl being looked after by the Roma family.

Sky Sources have said that the parents were unable to prove the identity of the girl.

It follows the taking into care of a four-year-old blonde girl called Maria and the arrest of a Roma couple in Greece last Friday.

The youngster taken from the family in Dublin is now being cared for by Ireland's Health Services Executive.

Sky News has been told the couple who were looking after the girl are being questioned by police in Dublin.

Ireland's Sunday World newspaper reported that the couple were asked by police to produce a birth certificate but, at first, could not find one.

The parents, according to the paper, then claimed the girl was born at Dublin's Coombe hospital in April 2006, but inquiries with the hospital resulted in no record being found of the girl being born in the hospital at that time.

After two hours in the house, the parents eventually found a birth certificate but the Gardai were not satisfied that it matched.

It is understood police may seek to take DNA samples to determine if the girl is related to anyone in the Roma camp.

The couple who claimed to be the parents of a blonde, blue-eyed girl aged around four in Greece have been charged with abduction.

More follows...

**lily** Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:58 pm

In parts of the world where the norm is to have dark hair, eyes and skin, the opposite can be quite a curiosity for them. A rare possession, if you will, to be noticed and admired.

The blonde child who is begging may be looked on more favorably by the possessor?

Interesting how Roma like blond children. So, it is entirely possible that Ben Needham and Madeleine may still be alive in their midst?

**Pedro Silva** Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:03 pm

My friends, this was taken from Sky News:

http://news.sky.com/story/1158133/maria-police-investigate-lisa-irwin-lead

**bb1** Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:10 pm

Surely the ages are way out? The Irwin baby would be about three now, and the girl in Greece is five or six.....

**bb1** Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:27 pm

Gonzo and Anjos won't approve of this:

http://news.sky.com/story/1158352/maria-interpol-to-help-greece-with-dna-check

Greek authorities have asked Interpol to help them identify a blond girl found in a Roma settlement by sharing her DNA profile.

The police agency has said it will make its international DNA database available to any one of its 190 member countries which has been given the profile of someone claiming to be a blood relative of the child, believed to be about four years old.

Member countries are also being urged to check Maria's DNA profile against their own DNA files as Greek authorities investigate whether the girl may have been abducted.

Countries who do not have a national DNA database are being encouraged to add all their DNA records to Interpol's records.

Interpol has also circulated an official Yellow Notice. The briefings are used to help locate missing persons, particularly children or others unable to identify themselves.

At the request of Greek authorities, Blue Notices have been issued for Christos Salis and Eleftheria Dimopoulou, the couple who were looking after Maria and who have now been charged with her abduction.

Blue Notices are issued to collect additional information about a person's identity, location or activities.

Meanwhile, a blonde girl thought to be seven years old and living with a Roma family in Ireland has been taken into care after a tip off from a member of the public.

The girl, who also has blue eyes, was discovered after officers were called to a house in the Dublin suburb of Tallaght on Monday afternoon.

Concerns were raised after the member of the public saw the blonde girl being looked after by the Roma family. The couple looking after the girl were unable to prove her identity.

They'll think it shocking that the Greek police have asked for outside help, and find it 'unprofessional'.

**lily** Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:35 pm

They just make themselves look more and more ridiculous with each utterance of theirs.

Isn't it time for them to zip it?

**bb1** Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:44 pm

Unknown young girl rescued from Greek gypsy camp - Page 3 Daily-star-221013-1-329x437

Could the thicko forkers please note something before they start ranting? 'Maddie' is in quotes; that means the Star knows she's not Madeleine.

**lily** Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:03 pm

You know it won't stop them, Bonny. They are rabid at times like this.

**bb1** Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:13 pm

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/exclusivo-cm/falsos-pais-lancam-criancas-no-crime

Lisbon
False parents throw kids in crime
Network attacks on Bosnian Portugal. Children are used to commit robberies. Learn more in CM

**greenink211** Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:57 pm

It would seem that there are 30 cases known in Portugal of children being used for criminal activity, by people who are not their parents. If it happens in Lisbon and Fatima, there is a good chance it also happens in the other main tourist area of the country, the Algarve.

FALSE PARENTS CHILDREN LAUNCH IN CRIME

October 23, 2013

Passports seized the network - along with hundreds of thousands of euros - have false data, especially in parenting children.

(FILIPA Couto)

Suspicions of child trafficking, as with 'Maria', blonde girl of four years found in a gypsy camp in Greece, where the false parents forced her to beg, led the Special Unit to Combat Violent Crime DIAP Lisbon asking for DNA tests to 30 children enslaved and forced to attack alongside Bosnian Mafia - 15 adults arrested in October 2012, for burglary millionaires from north to south. And the tests confirmed the worst. Most daughter is other parents.

In most cases, unlike that indicate the identity documents of those 30 children - 27 of whom are still in Portugal institutionalized, only three have been delivered to the real parents - the children have passports issued but authentic from fake birth certificates , with regard to the names of the parents and the locations of birth.

DNA profiles of children - who have between three months and 14 years and will Bosnian - when compared with those of 15 adults, have revealed the Intervention Unit of GNR, which acted in conjunction with the SEF, which, unlike of what you read in passports, minors are not children of the assailants older, but other immigrants - who are out to Portugal and will be, some relatives of the 15 detainees.

Minors were enslaved - forced to make rounds throughout the Greater Lisbon and Fatima, for example, alongside the 15 adults. These robberies surrendered to the network, from 2009 to 2012, over half a million euros.

http://www.correiodamanhacanada.com/falsos-pais-lancam-criancas-no-crime/

**bb1** Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:07 pm

That's horrifying, Greenink. It beggars belief that so many children are involved in this against their will, with no-one having any real idea just who they are.

I freely admit, I was annoyed with Brown and co, and their lofty denials that this was happening in Europe.

**greenink211** Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:21 pm

bb1 wrote:That's horrifying, Greenink. It beggars belief that so many children are involved in this against their will, with no-one having any real idea just who they are.

I freely admit, I was annoyed with Brown and co, and their lofty denials that this was happening in Europe.

It puts paid to the idiocy of some Portuguese posters who claim that Portugal is almost a land without crime.

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