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Post  lily Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:03 pm


Flight MH370: insurers make first pay out on missing Malaysia Airlines plane

Sorry cannot post the article as I do not subscribe to The Telegraph.
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:08 pm

Maybe the others will pick up on it? I am rather surprised at that, under the circumstances.
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Post  lily Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:16 pm

I'm hoping they will too, Bonny. It was around $100 million.

As this was different news, I thought I would post it.
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Post  bb1 Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:58 am

http://news.sky.com/story/1230886/malaysia-jet-two-more-objects-sighted-from-air

We shall see. About the only people I trust not to lie and cover their ar@ses in this are the Aussie Navy and Airforce.
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Post  bb1 Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:01 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1231059/mh370-relatives-must-assume-plane-was-lost

Malaysia Airlines has told the families of those on board the missing plane that relatives must assume MH370 has been lost.

The Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak is holding a news conference on the latest developments.

More follows...


Yes, well, I think that's obvious. Now let's try the How? Why? Where?
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Post  bb1 Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:09 pm

He said satellite data showed the plane was last recorded to be in the middle of the southern Indian Ocean.

"It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean."


Now let's see what cock-and-bull story is concocted to explain how it got there.
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Post  Lamplighter Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:21 pm

Not that I'm suggesting anythings, you understand, but the N Koreans have been firing long range rockets, lots of them, recently .... LL
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Post  bb1 Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:45 pm

Another possibility, LL. I just don't believe what looks like is going to be touted as the Official Version.
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Post  lily Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:32 pm

I don't believe the official story either. I am highly doubtful that N.Korea has anything to do with it. Much more likely to come from another trouble spot.

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Post  bb1 Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:38 pm

Good God! From Sky:

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"Malaysia Airlines deeply regrets that we have to assume beyond any reasonable doubt that MH370 has been lost and that none of those on board survived," the airline said in a text message to relatives.

That has to win some kind of prize for gross insensitivity.
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Post  lily Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:44 pm

Text messaging? They don't feel guilty about anything do they?
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Post  bb1 Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:12 pm

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Post  lily Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:15 pm

Something stinks about the whole thing.

The poor poor family members and friends.  Crying or Very sad 
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Post  bb1 Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:20 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26716572

China has demanded that the Malaysian authorities make available the evidence on which they based their announcement about the jet's fate.

And some relatives of Chinese passengers expressed scepticism about their conclusion, as the plane has not been found yet.
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Post  lily Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:29 pm

Don't blame them either.

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Post  bb1 Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:32 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1231314/malaysia-jet-search-called-off-due-to-weather

Gale force winds, rain and big waves are hampering search efforts for flight MH370, which crashed into the Indian Ocean.

See? It crashed into the ocean. Must be true, no-one would lie about something like that, would they?
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Post  lily Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:42 pm

If they said it's true, it must be, Bonny.

ETA: They knew beforehand about that weather so that has arrived at an inopportune time.
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Post  bb1 Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:42 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2588508/A-shot-dark-How-UK-firm-team-scientists-tracked-missing-flight-MH370-confirmed-worst-fears-families-passengers-crew.html


'A shot in the dark': How a UK firm and a team of scientists used a nineteenth century mathematical model to track missing flight MH370 - and confirmed the worst fears of the families of all passengers and crew
Private satellite company Inmarsat used radar pings and mathematical model to determine MH370 crashed in southern Indian Ocean
Malaysian PM Najib Razak delivered findings and concluded all aboard Boeing 777 had been killed
Inmarsat used nineteenth century model known as 'Doppler effect' to interpret data
'This really was a bit of a shot in the dark... it's to the credit of our scientific team that they managed to model this'


Yes, it's amazing, really. Can't think why this is being greeted with such scepticism. Such a pity their 'shot in the dark' put the missing plane exactly in a position where bad weather was imminent.
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Post  Sabot Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:37 am

God. I really don't want to spend the next thirty years wondering what happened to that plane, and the people. But some will, probably rightly.
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Post  bb1 Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:43 am

Know what their incredibly clever 19th century theorem for finding missing planes is, Sabot? Well, you know how, when you hear an ambulance going Nee naw Nee naw, the sound changes as it passes?

That's it. And on that basis, it is now Official that the plane crashed in one of the most inaccessible oceans of the world.

And the passengers' families were thoughtfully told by text.

I don't believe a word of any of this.
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Post  Sabot Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:57 am

Nor will the families.
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Post  lily Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:38 pm

That's right they are using the doppler effect. I don't see much difference to trial by body language.

There will be loads of sheeple who will fall for it though.
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Post  lily Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:22 pm

This is an interesting interview with the British Airways Captain of the 747 which flew through volcanic ash and had to do an emergency landing when all 4 of his engines quit.


POINTING TO SUICIDE': CAPTAIN WHO SAFELY LANDED 747 AFTER ALL ITS ENGINES FAILED BELIEVES MH370 WAS BROUGHT DOWN DELIBERATELY

The pilot of the infamous 1982 British Airways Flight 9 incident today said he believed the Malaysian Airlines MH370 was brought down deliberately.

Ruling out a malfunction on the plane, retired pilot Eric Moody said all indications pointed to suicide.

He believes if there was a fire, the pilot would have wanted to land the plane straight away - and not continue flying for seven hours after last contact.

What's more, he said it appears the communications were intentionally switched off - something that wouldn't have happened in an emergency.

Speaking on Tuesday, Mr Moody, 72, said: ‘Any pilot worth his salt would want to get it on the ground as soon as possible. There's lots of flammable stuff in planes so you cannot fail to act.

‘It is all pointing to suicide by someone on board - whether that is one of the pilots or somebody else on board.

‘They were flying in a controlled manner and somebody switched off the communication equipment.’

However, Mr Moody, who lives in Chilworth near Southampton, Hants, believes the public have not been told the full story.

In 1982, all four engines on the British Airways Flight 9 he was piloting from London to Auckland, New Zealand, failed when he flew through a volcanic ash cloud.

The cloud came from an eruption of Mount Galunggung in West Java, Indonesia.

Moody had to take emergency action and saved all 248 passengers and 15 crew on board by dropping from 37,000ft to 12,000ft to restart the engines.

Eventually, the flight made an emergency landing at the Halim Perdanakusuma Airport in Jakarta, Indonesia.

Even though he was behind the controls, he still didn't find out the full account of what happened until declassified files were released 11 years later.

Mr Moody said: ‘What I will say is that some agency knows something more than what they are letting on and I have experience in this.

‘It took 11 years to find out how Boeing was able to ring a ground engineer in Jakarta who got to us after about 15 to 20 minutes after landing.

‘A phone call was made just when my engines started going wrong. It meant they knew what was going on as they were monitoring us on satellites.

‘Satellite monitoring stations by Alice Springs and Guam were following us as we found out from declassified files years later.

‘As such there is so much unknown right now but someone will know more and it could be any country.

‘We don't know what they're watching.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2588109/How-got-After-Malaysia-Airlines-jet-said-crashed-Indian-Ocean-look-ended-far-course.html#ixzz2wzoyrKYo
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Post  bb1 Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:26 pm

Mr Moody said: ‘What I will say is that some agency knows something more than what they are letting on and I have experience in this.

‘It took 11 years to find out how Boeing was able to ring a ground engineer in Jakarta who got to us after about 15 to 20 minutes after landing.

‘A phone call was made just when my engines started going wrong. It meant they knew what was going on as they were monitoring us on satellites.


Stop and think about the implications of that....

I'm not really convinced by the suicide theory. It's a plane - all the pilot had to do was point the nose down and accelerate. This business of climbing, then flying for hours - it's too complicated?
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Post  lily Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:31 pm

Way too complicated Bonny. It's also possible it could have landed somewhere if one of the pilots was so inclined.

I also liked the section of the story that you quoted. It is very interesting, isn't it?



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