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Post  lily Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:19 pm

Those on high don't have to worry. They are guarded like the most precious gems around the clock and travel in fortified cars, for instance.

It's everyone else who has to be concerned.

They can play War Games for real without worry.
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Post  bb1 Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:06 pm

Oh, FFS!

http://news.sky.com/story/1290173/obama-seeks-500m-to-support-syrias-rebels

Obama Seeks $500m To Support Syria's Rebels
8:47pm UK, Thursday 26 June 2014

President Barack Obama is seeking $500m from US lawmakers to train and equip "vetted" Syrian rebels, the White House says.

Mr Obama has been under pressure from some lawmakers to bolster assistance to moderate Syrian insurgents.

If approved, the budget request would mark the first open US military involvement in the Syrian conflict, which began three years ago.

There is already a covert CIA training programme for the rebels, US officials have previously confirmed.

The $500m is part of a broader $66bn overseas operations request sent by the administration to Congress on Thursday.

White House National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said in an emailed statement the money would go towards "appropriately vetted elements" of the opposition.

"These funds would help defend the Syrian people," she wrote, "stabilize areas under opposition control, facilitate the provision of essential services, counter terrorist threats, and promote conditions for a negotiated settlement."

It is not clear what type of military equipment would be included under the request.

Syria's moderate rebels are waging a war on two fronts - against the forces of President Bashar al-Assad and Islamist militants.

The Obama administration has renewed its focus on Syria's conflict as it fans an al Qaeda-inspired insurgency in neighbouring Iraq.

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Obama clearly doesn't think enough of the Middle East is in flames; he's going to throw HALF A BILLION DOLLARS away on arming yet more 'nice rebels', after the last 'nice rebels' turned out to be ISIS and Saddam Hussein's army.

Impeach the barstard for the sake of the world!
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Post  bb1 Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:07 pm

The $500m is part of a broader $66bn overseas operations request sent by the administration to Congress on Thursday

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What???? Impeach Obama - NOW!
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Post  bb1 Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:53 pm

So, Obama is plotting to spend half a billion dollars of US taxpayers' money on overthrowing an elected government in an area that is already at war.

He's planning to spend a further $66 billion of taxpayers' money on f*ck knows what, beyond spreading yet more death, misery, ruin and bloodshed.

All this at a time when the US economy is shrinking, and its southern borders are wide-open and God knows who is pouring into the country.

The Praetorian Guard really should step in round about now, because the biggest threat to the Republic - and the rest of the human race - is currently sitting in the White House acting like an emperor bent on ruling the world.
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Post  bb1 Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:39 pm

http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/border-open.jpg

The U.S. Border Protection agency is either abiding by a stand down order, or is so busy performing other tasks they’re completely leaving entire sections of the border unguarded and indeed wide open, Infowars reporters observed yesterday.

In El Paso, Texas, investigating the Central American immigrant surge, reporters Joe Biggs and Rob Dew ventured near the Rio Grande river, where they encountered a large border fence on the U.S. side sitting wide open and unguarded for a lengthy period.

“As we’ve documented, the Border patrol has been paying to ship these kids in, bus them in, fly them in to our country, and now the gates are left completely wide open,” Staff Sgt. Biggs reports.


http://www.infowars.com/stand-down-u-s-border-gate-left-wide-open-unguarded/


The current state of the US border with Mexico. But Obama can give half a billion dollars to terrorists.
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Post  bb1 Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:45 pm

Incidentally, I do hope Obama's cronies grasp that, by continuing to try to overthrow the elected government of Syria by arming terrorists....

They are not just ignoring the rights of other nations to govern themselves, they are sentencing innocent men, women and children at the other side of the world to death.

Washington's hands are dripping blood - but hey, what does that matter, if there's oil to be looted?
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Post  bb1 Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:13 pm

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Dated January. Before all this started. It has to be deliberate, there can be no other explanation. I'm very glad I'm not American, my blood pressure would be sky-high.

Well, he did say he was going to change America, didn't he?
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Post  lily Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:27 pm

Yes he did. Mission Accomplished.
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Post  bb1 Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:35 pm

Here's a thing. Hitler told everyone what he was going to do before he was elected; his plans were all written down, no secret about them. Likewise with Obama.

History is going to wonder how the Hell a marxist-leaning, muslim sympathiser (at the very least) got into the Oval Office. I hope the US, and the rest of the world, is going to be around to discuss it.
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Post  lily Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:58 pm

That's what worries me, Bonny.
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Post  bb1 Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:22 am

At another point in the conversation Hillary is quoted as having said of Obama, 'You can’t trust the motherf***er'.
"'Obama has treated Bill and me incredibly shabbily. And we’re angry,'" Clinton continued.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2670920/The-moment-Hillary-Clinton-let-loose-Obama-booze-fueled-rant-new-book-reveals.html#ixzz35vbJEeeX
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Presidential wannabee channels Frothing Pillock.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:52 am

Worth reading, on the subject of America's open southern border:

http://www.infowars.com/pelosi-scurries-away-as-infowars-confronts-her-on-orchestrated-border-crisis/

Tens of thousands of children and toddlers without parents or adult guardians are surging across the U.S.-Mexico border in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas.

On June 16 Infowars reporters Adan Salazar and Jakari Jackson reported on South Texas church groups working around the clock to shuttle hundreds of illegal immigrants to housing facilities, a move politically calculated to benefit the Obama administration in its deliberate plan to flood America with illegal aliens.

“The humanitarian crisis unfolding across our nation’s southern border demands Congress come together and find thoughtful, compassionate and bipartisan solutions,” Pelosi said on Friday.

The people responsible for protecting the border, however, disagree with Pelosi’s assessment and object to Democrats exploiting the situation to push through amnesty.

“This is not a humanitarian crisis,” the National Association of Border Patrol Officers said earlier this month. “It is a predictable, orchestrated and contrived assault on the compassionate side of Americans by her political leaders that knowingly puts minor illegal alien children at risk for purely political purposes.”

“Certainly, we are not gullible enough to believe that thousands of unaccompanied minor Central American children came to America without the encouragement, aid and assistance of the United States government.”

The recent influx of illegal immigrants highlights how seriously border security has been compromised despite the efforts of state government in Texas. On June 18 Texas Governor Rick Perry, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, and House Speaker Joe Straus agreed to give the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) an additional $1.3 million per week to stem the tide of illegal immigrants flooding into Texas.


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As the US 'government' was advertising, back in January, for new staff to assist with this 'crisis' that hadn't begun then, it's obvious to a blind man it's been orchestrated from Washington.

To what end is so far unknown.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:01 pm

President Obama has sent a special unit of CIA officers to the UK to investigate British Muslim extremists amid growing fears in Washington that we are becoming a ‘breeding ground’ for terrorism.
In a pointed snub to MI5, the agents arrived on a ‘lone wolf’ mission to interrogate senior security experts about the radicalisation of UK Muslims.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2673511/Obama-sends-CIA-UK-probe-terrorist-breeding-ground-President-pointed-snub-MI5-lone-wolf-mission-interrogate-British-security-experts.html#ixzz361qf0BXt
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Emperor Obama planning to drone Bradford next, is he?
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Post  lily Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:52 pm

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/6ec4fd4c-ff5c-11e3-8a35-00144feab7de.html#axzz363HtCgvN

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Iraq crisis: Isis declares establishment of a sovereign state
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:07 pm

Having trouble getting the FT to load, but it's just appeared here, too:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-declares-new-islamic-state-in-middle-east-with-abu-bakr-albaghdadi-as-emir-removing-iraq-and-syria-from-its-name-9571374.html

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis) has reportedly declared the areas it occupies in Iraq and Syria as a new Islamic state, removing Iraq and the Levant from its name and ushering in “a new era of international jihad”.

The announcement will see the Isis now simply refer to itself as The Islamic State, and the group has called on al-Qa’ida and other related militant Sunni factions operating in the region to immediately pledge their allegiance.

According to Isis’s chief spokesman Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, the declaration of the “restoration of the caliphate” was made after a meeting of the group’s Shura Council. In recent weeks, Isis has captured large areas of western and northern Iraq and for two years has held parts of Syria, imposing a harsh interpretation of Islamic law and in many cases, killing large numbers of opposition Shia Muslims.

Adnani said all jihadist organisations must now offer up their support to Isis leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who has been declared Caliph of the new state.

Charles Lister, visiting fellow at the Qatar-based Brookings Doha Centre, said that the declaration signalled “massive trouble” regardless of the perceived legitimacy of the Isis group, adding that the next 24 hours will be “key”.

Charlie Cooper, a researcher for the Quilliam counter-extremism think-tank, said the fact Baghdadi has been named Caliph was particularly controversial.

He told The Independent: “There hasn’t been a Caliph since the Ottoman Empire, and the Caliph is appointed as the only legitimate successor to Prophet Mohammed.”

“The fact that Isis has done this has huge ideological and theological implications and it is a big challenge to al-Qa’ida, their spokespeople may well try to reclaim their legitimacy.”


Seems to me they're aiming a bit high, especially as the Russian jets have arrived to the rescue like the cavalry.

I very nearly threw something through my TV earlier - it was Dick Cheney (Halliburton) this time. He announced that Iran should keep its nose out of Iraq, just like Russia should out of Ukraine.

Hello? Which nation, thousands of miles away, set fire to countries neighbouring Russia and Iraq? I don't think either country is just going to sit and let the bonfire spread to suit Cheney.

But back to the point. Isn't declaring yourself Caliph rather ambitious at this point? I admit to having occasional nasty thoughts involving Bin Laden not really being dead......
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Post  lily Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:18 pm

But back to the point. Isn't declaring yourself Caliph rather ambitious at this point? I admit to having occasional nasty thoughts involving Bin Laden not really being dead......

I would think so, Bonny. How are the other Islamic nations going to like it?

Charles Lister, visiting fellow at the Qatar-based Brookings Doha Centre, said that the declaration signalled “massive trouble” regardless of the perceived legitimacy of the Isis group, adding that the next 24 hours will be “key”.

Charlie Cooper, a researcher for the Quilliam counter-extremism think-tank, said the fact Baghdadi has been named Caliph was particularly controversial.

He told The Independent: “There hasn’t been a Caliph since the Ottoman Empire, and the Caliph is appointed as the only legitimate successor to Prophet Mohammed.”


Oh my....... Shocked 
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Post  lily Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:19 pm

Apologies Bonny. I am no fan of Cheney at all either.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:27 pm


He told The Independent: “There hasn’t been a Caliph since the Ottoman Empire, and the Caliph is appointed as the only legitimate successor to Prophet Mohammed.”

Yes, that was the bit that got me, too, it's a bit like announcing you are the real king - and is 'Baghdadi' even his real name? I hope the Snackbars have over-reached themselves.....

You know, Lily, it's a pity US politicians don't ever have to face baying mobs like the UK ones do in the House of Commons when tempers are running high, most of them wouldn't last five minutes if they were treated so disrespectfully.  biggrin 
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Post  lily Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:54 pm

I wish.  rofl  rofl  rofl 

Oh our one has his own solution. Act as though you are the absolute emperor.

That was the part that jumped out at me. It is also the cause of the Shia/Sunni problems. Who is the legitimate successor to the Prophet Mohammed?
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Post  Lamplighter Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:04 pm

Who is the legitimate successor to the Prophet Mohammed?
That's the million dollar question! Both Shia and Sunni claim that honor and this has been going on since he died. It's a very long and convoluted story but if you google the question you will get loads of sites to read. LL
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Post  lily Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:14 pm

Exactly, LL. How can it be resolved? Difficult one isn't it?
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:16 pm

Tell you, Bin Laden is going to rise from the dead. Google led me to this piece from 2004:



Osama bin Laden's Scary Vision of a Grand Muslim Super State - See more at: http://hnn.us/article/7378#sthash.G28rZ6Yk.dpuf

It is most interesting, and has proven remarkably accurate. I doubt if even Bin Laden could have forseen how the US would play into the hands of his followers, by causing such chaos.

Which, IMO, is the main reason the US should be backing Assad, and using their influence wisely to stop him doing anything too horrible. Though it would be hard for him to top the cruxifictions and cannibalism. He's also been elected more or less democratically, whether Obama likes it or not.

Likewise, Egypt drew back from the brink, thanks to their military and their zero tolerance for militant islam.

The piece ends with:

The U.S. is not winning the war on terror. Al-Qaeda also has by no means won. But across a whole range of objectives, al-Qaeda has accomplished more of its goals than the U.S. has of its.

And that is even more true now, not least thanks to the Cheneys and the Bidens, and their greed.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:19 pm

he had a Plan B: al-Qaeda hoped to draw the U.S. into a debilitating guerrilla war in Afghanistan and do to the U.S. military what they had earlier done to the Soviets. Al-Zawahiri's recent message shows that he still has faith in that strategy

Which is pretty much exactly what has happened in Afghanistan AND the Middle East, which again raises questions about why Obama is so hell-bent on overturning anti-extremist Middle Eastern governments.
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Post  Lamplighter Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:23 pm

lily wrote:Exactly, LL.  How can it be resolved?  Difficult one isn't it?
It can no more be resolved than the Catholic and Protestant branches od Christianity claiming, as they still do, to be the True Church of Christ.   Religion has caused more death and destruction than any other thing in the history of mankind.   LL


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