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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:23 pm

The U.S. cleverly outfoxed al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, using air power and local Afghan allies (the Northern Alliance) to destroy the Taliban without many American boots on the ground.

Unfortunately, the years since that was written have shown that someone was outfoxed, and it wasn't the Taliban.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:25 pm

. Religion has caused more death and destruction than any other thing in the history of mankind.

Is it not actually Christianity and Islam that have caused almost all of it, LL? Possibly because of their insistence on converting people, and then fighting amongst themselves about the most ridiculous details in their own faith?
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Post  Lamplighter Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:29 pm

Religion is not, and never has been, of any interest to me. I loathe those missionaries who forced simple men and women to deny their beliefs and worship an alien god. I also fail to understand that if, as is claimed, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are the Religions of the Book, they try and destroy each other with such zeal. LL
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Post  lily Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:41 pm

That link is really interesting, Bonny. Thank you so much for posting it.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:44 pm

Yes, it's very good, isn't it? Bin Laden may have been a horrid person, but he wasn't stupid - and was considerably further-sighted than the Great Satan he wanted to destroy.
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Post  lily Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:48 pm

On the whole, Muslims are patient people and very smart - at least those in upper echelons.

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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:29 pm

Qatar's version of the new, improved caliphate:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/06/isil-declares-new-islamic-caliphate-201462917326669749.html

Incidentally, I see ISIS isn't ISIS any more, it's just IS.
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Post  lily Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:43 pm

That was fast....
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Post  bb1 Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:35 pm

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/06/fierce-ambition-isil-baghdadi-2014612142242188464.html

A biography of the new Caliph, he who was kicked out of Al Quaeda for extremism.

If it wasn't so deadly serious, and costing so many lives, the whole thing would be like the Monthy Python Splitters! sketch, as they all find things to squabble about.
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Post  lily Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:48 pm

Good grief! Definitely.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:41 am

A long piece about the activities of the vile Blackwater/Greystone/Academi mercenaries, last spotted in Ukraine:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/us/before-shooting-in-iraq-warning-on-blackwater.html?_r=1

Before Shooting in Iraq, a Warning on Blackwater
By JAMES RISENJUNE 29, 2014

WASHINGTON — Just weeks before Blackwater guards fatally shot 17 civilians at Baghdad’s Nisour Square in 2007, the State Department began investigating the security contractor’s operations in Iraq. But the inquiry was abandoned after Blackwater’s top manager there issued a threat: “that he could kill” the government’s chief investigator and “no one could or would do anything about it as we were in Iraq,” according to department reports.

American Embassy officials in Baghdad sided with Blackwater rather than the State Department investigators as a dispute over the probe escalated in August 2007, the previously undisclosed documents show. The officials told the investigators that they had disrupted the embassy’s relationship with the security contractor and ordered them to leave the country, according to the reports.

After returning to Washington, the chief investigator wrote a scathing report to State Department officials documenting misconduct by Blackwater employees and warning that lax oversight of the company, which had a contract worth more than $1 billion to protect American diplomats, had created “an environment full of liability and negligence.”

“The management structures in place to manage and monitor our contracts in Iraq have become subservient to the contractors themselves,” the investigator, Jean C. Richter, wrote in an Aug. 31, 2007, memo to State Department officials. “Blackwater contractors saw themselves as above the law,” he said, adding that the “hands off” management resulted in a situation in which “the contractors, instead of Department officials, are in command and in control.”

His memo and other newly disclosed State Department documents make clear that the department was alerted to serious problems involving Blackwater and its government overseers before the Nisour Square shooting, which outraged Iraqis and deepened resentment over the United States’ presence in the country.

Today, as conflict rages again in Iraq, four Blackwater guards involved in the Nisour Square shooting are on trial in Washington on charges stemming from the episode, the government’s second attempt to prosecute the case in an American court after previous charges against five guards were dismissed in 2009.


More at link.

A shorter version here:

http://rt.com/usa/169336-blackwater-threatened-kill-investigator/

Including this tweet:

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Just a reminder, while you're reading that Blackwater piece: the Obama Administration is actively trying to imprison the guy who wrote it.
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But hey! Cheney's Halliburton company made mega-$$$$$$$$, so it's all good!

I saw a breakdown of how many $$$$$$$$ Cheney made via Halliburton out of each dead or maimed US soldier, must try to find it again.

As far as I am concerned, the US needs a second revolution, and a clean out from top to bottom. These corrupt, warmongering barstards can be set to work on a chain gang in Texas, rebuilding the border fences and being of some use to society for a change.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:21 pm

http://www.infowars.com/obama-promises-unconstitutional-executive-action-to-fix-broken-immigration-system/

OBAMA PROMISES UNCONSTITUTIONAL EXECUTIVE ACTION TO FIX “BROKEN” IMMIGRATION SYSTEM
Says he will skirt Congress and the American people in bid to legalize millions of illegal immigrants


He must think he didn't get enough votes from dead people last time, he's now importing them. And no, I wouldn't be all surprised if he hatched some scheme to give himself a third term.
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Post  lily Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:28 pm

If he goes ahead with that, he can be impeached.  Pcorneater 
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Post  bb1 Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:37 pm

I find myself watching in horror as he tears up your Constitution, Lily, and it's not just over one thing, it's over just about everything.
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Post  lily Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:46 pm

He's so full of himself, Bonny, I think that is very clear.  

I doubt he will continue with that as he knows what will happen, unless he really does want to be impeached.  Remember he taught Constitution Law?
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Post  bb1 Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:43 am

Californians forget they are supposed to be progressive and liberal, man:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/01/us/california-immigrant-transfers/

CNN) -- Angry protesters forced three buses carrying undocumented immigrants to turn around Tuesday in Southern California.
The immigrants had arrived in San Diego from south Texas and were on their way to be processed at the Murrieta Border Patrol station.
Protesters chanting "USA!" "Impeach Obama!" and "Deport, Deport!" blocked their route. A heated yelling match ensued between the demonstrators and a group of counterprotesters.
As the buses were forced to retreat, the roughly 140 people on board were taken to a border station in San Ysidro, according to Ron Zermeno with the National Border Patrol Council.
It was not immediately clear whether they would stay there or what would happen next.
The U.S. government is struggling to process and accommodate an influx of undocumented immigrants, and specifically a spike in immigrant children. The government doesn't have enough beds, food or sanitary facilities.
To help relieve crowded facilities in Texas, undocumented immigrants are now being sent elsewhere to be processed.
Murrieta Police Chief Sean Hadden said that police there had been told to expect 140 immigrants every 72 hours, with the next group scheduled to arrive on Friday.

Authorities estimate 60,000 to 80,000 children without parents will cross the border this year in what the White House has called an "immediate humanitarian crisis."
The mayor of Murrieta, Alan Long, had urged residents Monday to protest the decision to move undocumented immigrants to the area, the Los Angeles Times reported.
He spoke again Tuesday at a Murrieta City Council meeting, thanking police and others.
"Please remember these are human beings that are fleeing the violence in their home countries. The problem is that they need to come into this country the legal way," Long said.


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Funny how quickly Love and Peace, turns into Impeach Obama! when people are faced with the problem on their own doorsteps....
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Post  lily Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:44 pm

It will get worse when TB and polio and other diseases, lice, scabies and other pests start spreading to the general population.......

This is something that is known.  mad 
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Post  bb1 Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:50 pm

It's just a matter of time before one of these incidents spirals out of control, IMO, Lily. Irate citizens and cops defending the indefensible is always a recipe for disaster. Especially when the easy way to stop the problems is to CLOSE THE DAMNED BORDER.
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Post  lily Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:11 pm

He doesn't want it closed.  It means loads and loads of future voters for his party.  In the meantime it is at the expense of others.

ETA: There is something wrong when voting cannot be done the fair way......
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Post  bb1 Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:21 pm

What the HELL is Obama playing at, Lily? It makes no sense at all. Apart from anything else, it's a terrible slap in the face to all those people who emigrated to the US legally, and jumped through hoops to get Green Cards.

And where are all these 'war-torn regions' in South America supposed to be, anyway? Last time I looked, it was more or less at peace, apart from drug cartels (exporting to the US) and Venezuela (being stirred up by the US).

How are they getting through Mexico? And why are so many of them, well, fat?
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Post  lily Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:46 pm

There have been adverts for them South of the US. They are even getting escorts to bring them in.

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Post  bb1 Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:02 pm

You know, there isn't a great deal of point in the US causing annoyance to ordinary travellers at airports, when the world and it's mother is simply walking over the Mexican border.

Unless Obama thinks there isn't a single person in South America with a grudge against the States?
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Post  lily Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:09 pm

Anyone can see that, Bonny. It's really sticking a finger up at the regular people.
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Post  bb1 Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:29 am

http://www.infowars.com/cdc-confirms-activation-of-emergency-operation-center-in-response-to-immigrant-influx/

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is responding to the public health crisis spurred by the recent surge of illegal immigrants by activating an emergency facility designed to monitor and coordinate “emergency response activities to public health threats,” the agency admitted to Infowars Tuesday.
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