Re: Hungary is new hot spot on migrant route into EU - Part 1

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:26 pm

Compare those thugs with the genuine refugees entering Russia from Donbass:

http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/09/refugees-out-of-ukraine-migrants-that.html

Refugees out of Ukraine: Migrants that they don't want to see

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Do you see litter anywhere? Do you see fit young men trampling women and children underfoot, fighting with the police and each other?

No, you see women, children and the elderly.

Genuine refugees.

**lily** Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:48 pm

With each passing day, it just gets more and more sickening. Thank you for all those articles, Bonny.

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:59 pm

The MSM is annoying me - as it is a great many other people - with their carefully-cropped photos of sad children, which never ever show the thousands of aggressive young men pushing and shoving around them.

The BBC is particularly bad, and when all else fails, critics are called 'racists'. Sadly for the handwringers, that is rapidly ceasing to be an insult, for a variety of reasons.

1. Islam is NOT a race, it is a belief system.

2. In all but its most tolerant forms, as practised by President Assad of Syria, for instance, it is barely even a normal religion.

Whatever Islam once was, it is no longer. It manages to combine the worst bigotry of religion, with a belief system so lacking in humanity and respect for others, it would put the Nazis or Stalin to shame.

The first loyalty of its followers is NOT to their nation, especially not any western nation that's taken them in, but to their belief system - not unlike the old Communists. It is intolerant of women's rights, children's rights, gay rights, animal rights, democracy - just about everything we take for granted.

As for these moonbats that are convinced they can 'save' these people by displaying suicidal altruism - they need to wake up before its too late.

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:02 pm

Looks like Turkey is now trying to stop them:

http://www.rt.com/on-air/europe-asylum-seekers-influx/

Turkish police try to block crowd of refugees and migrants on their way to EU.

**lily** Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:07 pm

We are getting similar nonsense over here, Bonny. So, why are the media pushing this nasty agenda to begin with?

The word 'racism' is bandied about as emotional blackmail. It stops some people from seeing what is really happening. Why do they want to destroy the West?

What precisely is their idea of equality there? Who can help being angry?

**lily** Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:12 pm

That is interesting Bonny. Don't blame Turkey either and they are getting closer to their own country anyway. I still don't understand why parts of Africa and Saudi Arabia etc do not let them in.

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:17 pm

The Gulf states - and Saudi - as I recall, said they wouldn't take any because of terrorism and destabilisation, Lily. And still the penny doesn't drop with the bleeding hearts....

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:20 pm

Now this is interesting:

http://www.rt.com/news/315869-russia-us-military-restore/

Leaders at the Russian Defense Ministry and the Pentagon have agreed to restore military contacts and continue consultations, Russia’s military officials said in a statement.
Russia’s Minster of Defense Sergey Shoigu and his US counterpart Ashton Carter talked by phone on Friday to discuss the situation in the Middle East and the Syrian crisis, among other issues. They agreed to restore contacts between the ministries.

"The ministers noted the restoration of military-to-military contacts and agreed to continue consultations," spokesperson for the Russian Defense Ministry, Igor Konashenkov, said.

The ministers also talked on the need to coordinate "bilateral and multilateral efforts to comnbat global terrorism"

Who isn't longing to see Russia deal with ISIS with their customary thoroughness where terrorists are concerned? They certainly won't be throwing millions away trying to train a stunning FIVE fighters.

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:21 pm

RT:

The Associated Press ✔ @AP
BREAKING: 19 Croatian buses full of migrants seen arriving at Hungary's border; not allowed to cross'

13:46 GMT
Hungarian police and soldiers with machine guns lined up at the border village of Beremend as Croatian buses delivered hundreds of refugees there. The convoy of more than 10 buses was heading to the city of Osijek, eastern Croatia, but suddenly turned towards the Hungarian border.

**lily** Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:38 pm

Hungary has the right idea.

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:30 pm

Looks like they are going to funnel them straight to Merkel's doorstep:

http://news.sky.com/story/1555206/countries-to-open-migrant-corridor-to-germany

Croatia and Hungary have agreed to provide a corridor for migrants to reach Germany and northern Europe, Sky News has been told.

Some 1,000 migrants arrived in the Hungarian village of Magyarboly on a train from Croatia and it now looks like their wish to continue through Europe will be allowed to continue.

The Croatian prime minister has said his country cannot cope with the 14,000 migrants who have entered the country since Wednesday and will redirect the desperate men, women and children to Hungary and Slovenia.

Both of these countries had said they would not accept any migrants - but Vesna Pusic, Croatia's foreign minister, has told Sky News a compromise was reached on Friday afternoon.

Same link:

In other developments, German officials have said trains carrying migrants may be diverted past Munich in the coming days to prevent a clash with the city's annual beer festival.

Quite right - the 'migrants' couldn't be expected to behave like normal human beings on seeing pretty girls, beer and pork sausages and roasts.

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:36 pm

Mr Corbyn, 66, said attacking the fanatical group would only make things worse and instead claimed Britain would be safer it if declared that it supported the 'diversity of faith and diversity of aspirations around the world'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3240148/Corbyn-blames-BRITAIN-rise-ISIS-Labour-leader-rejects-bombing-Syria-spark-mayhem.html#ixzz3m7XhMTQN
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Eff off, Corbyn, I happen to like living in a democracy, which isn't run by woman-hating fanatics.

**lily** Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:52 pm

Oh good. Frau Merkel will be able to see for herself what those thugs are doing in the EU. Do you think she will have to arrange a special halal festival for those men?

Corbyn sounds more ridiculous by the day. He lives in a world of fantasy.......

**Lamplighter** Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:59 pm

Lázár: Hungary ready to discuss migrant quotas
By Hungary Matters September 18th, 2015

Hungary in principle opposes the European Union proposal on the distribution of migrants based on quotas but is willing to discuss ways to help countries most affected, government office chief János Lázár said. Lázár told a weekly press conference that since the announcement on June 17 to seal off the country’s borders, Hungary has been the only EU member that was able to enforce the Schengen regulations. As a result, there are hardly any people who need to be looked after in refugee camps in Hungary, he added. Now that the camps are empty, Hungary is ready for a debate about what considerations should be applied when helping countries with many refugees, he said.

Commenting on international reactions, he said the Austrian chancellor and the Romanian prime ministers have directed “hate speech” towards Hungarians. He said other countries that had criticised Hungary may also be forced to use their police in a similar way, adding that it did not make Hungary “happy” that police had to use force to calm the situation in Röszke, even if the amount of force used was appropriate for the incident. Lázár said the events of Wednesday afternoon had vindicated the government’s decision to erect a fence on the border.

**lily** Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:03 pm

Good for them LL. thumbsup

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:45 pm

Every sane person in Europe supports Hungary, LL - which lets out most politicians.

Looks like Sky's report isn't quite accurate - how unusual Rolling Eyes

:

http://www.rt.com/news/315892-croatia-refuses-accept-refugees/

Croatia has closed seven of its eight border crossings with Serbia overwhelmed by a huge surge of refugees turned away by Hungary. PM said Croatia will not accept or accommodate asylum seekers any longer.
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EU refugee & migrant influx
"We cannot register and accommodate these people any longer," Prime Minister Zoran Milanovic told reporters on Friday. "They will get food, water and medical help, and then they can move on. The European Union must know that Croatia will not become a migrant 'hotspot.' We have hearts, but we also have heads."

On Thursday Croatia closed most of its road border crossings with Serbia leaving only one on the main road linking Belgrade and Zagreb at Bajakovo. The decision came as over 13,000 refugees entered the country after Hungary closed its borders on Wednesday failing to cope with the refugee flow. Police told Reuters that about 500 refugees had been detained after crossing into the south of Hungary from Croatia on Thursday.

Some of the refugees appear to be stuck on the border between Croatia and Hungary. Reuters reported on Thursday that a convoy of more than 10 buses which was heading towards the Croatian city of Osijek was turned towards the Hungarian border. Refugees were offloaded at the Croatian border village Beremend, according to a Reuters reporter at the scene. Hundreds of migrants were also witnessed on Friday at a petrol station by a road in the Croatian border town of Beli Manastir.

Dozens of refugees staged a silent sit-in protest at the Serbian-Hungarian border near the town of Horgos on Friday. They held placards which read: “We don’t have houses anymore. We will live here,” and “This is shame for Europe.”

The site was a scene of violence on Tuesday, when police used water cannon and teargas to push back refugees attempting to enter Hungary

Milanovic said on Friday he has called a session of Croatia's National Security Council. Interior Minister Ranko Ostojic told N1 Television that “it’s a matter of time” before Croatia closes all borders.

Columns of asylum seekers were expected to turn to Slovenia, however the Interior Ministry said on Friday that Slovenia does not intend to open a corridor for the refugees heading to Western Europe to pass through.

"At the moment we have no basis on which we could form a corridor," Interior Ministry state secretary Bostjan Sefic told reporters.....more at link.

Shame for Europe? Why? It's people scrawling demands like this:

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who should be ashamed. Run out of money for cigarettes and recharging their smartphones, have they?

**Pedro Silva** Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:11 pm

this is my opinion: I´m not racist, but Frau Merkel should accept the migrants in her country instead of suggesting or trying to force other countries to accept them, specially when riots with destruction through fire comes from the migrants, but also due to the fact of migrants using children to convince other governments from other countries to accept them.

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:16 pm

Well said, Pedro - and no, of course you aren't racist! As I keep saying, 'islamic' isn't a race, and that is what the problem is, IMO.

And we've all seen pictures of them using terrified children as human shields.

**Pedro Silva** Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:20 pm

bb1, I agree with you.

**lily** Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:09 pm

The photo of someone asking for their money.....they obviously have been told they will be given money. I wonder who told them that?

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:12 pm

Soros is bound to be involved in this somewhere, Lily. After all, it isn't normal for 'refugees' to travel with bullhorns....

**lily** Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:17 pm

Bonny, I was talking about that today and it was agreed with me that Soros is involved. It has his fingerprints all over it.

We must remember that he is getting on in age and where he did his dreadful work as a teen in Hungary during WWII. He said it was the best time of his life.

I wonder if he wanted to recreate the excitement of his youth?

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:24 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1555206/hungary-confiscates-croatian-migrant-train

Hungary Confiscates Croatian Migrant Train
Chaos reigns as Croatia claims a corridor to Germany has been agreed and Hungary calls this "a lie".

Hungary has confiscated a Croatian train that tried to transport 1,000 migrants into the country - describing its arrival as a breach of EU law and a "major, major incident".

The migrants were accompanied by 40 Croatian police officers. These have now been sent back to Croatia, while Hungary has said the migrants are being transferred to a reception camp.

Hungary has stated repeatedly that it will charge such migrants with illegal entry and expel them back to the country from which they arrived.

The train's seizure is the latest development in a spat between Croatia and Hungary which has left the fate of thousands of migrants uncertain.

....more at link.

Why not just dump the whole damned lot in Germany?

AND THEN BUILD A BLOODY GREAT WALL AROUND THE WHOLE OF GERMANY.

I am sure the rest of Europe will rub along perfectly well without deranged, bullying German leaders - for the third time in a century.

Lily, the only people benefitting from this chaos - besides criminals, traffickers, etc - are globalists.

Anyone that thinks this mass invasion of Europe is acceptable is simply aiding and abetting some of the most corrupt scum on the planet.

This isn't like previous refugee crises in Europe - the Hungarians who fled West in the '50s' all came from a similar cultural background to us, and more importantly, didn't hate the West.

The Jewish refugees in the 30's - same thing. And there was NO danger of those genuine refugees suddenly turning out to be closet nazis, bombing British cities, butchering British people in the street, and all the other charming things Islamists have done in the West in recent years.

**lily** Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:02 pm

Completely agree with every word of your superb post, Bonny. The globalists are more than sick. Every single one of them....

**bb1** Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:13 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3240010/Number-refugees-arriving-Europe-soars-85-year-just-one-five-war-torn-Syria.html

Only one in every five migrants claiming asylum in Europe is from Syria.

The EU logged 213,000 arrivals in April, May and June but only 44,000 of them were fleeing the Syrian civil war.

Campaigners and left-wing MPs have suggested the vast majority of migrants are from the war-torn state, accusing the Government of doing too little to help them.

'This exposes the lie peddled in some quarters that vast numbers of those reaching Europe are from Syria,' said David Davies, Tory MP for Monmouth. 'Most people who are escaping the war will go to camps in Lebanon or Jordan.

'Many of those who have opted to risk their lives to come to Europe have done so for economic reasons.'

I hope the bleeding hearts read those figures and UNDERSTAND them.

Only 20% are genuine migrants. And of those, the overwhelming majority are fit young men who should have a gun in their hands defending their country - Kurdish women do, after all.

Now the bleeding hearts need to grasp just how small - and manageable - the genuine numbers would be if Merkel hadn't started this stampede into Europe.

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